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Spot for the next Australian Nautical Mile record

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Created by sailquik > 9 months ago, 23 Jul 2018
sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
23 Jul 2018 1:47PM
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I saw a bit of Hype about the 'Prince of Speed' (POS ) NM WSSRC record attempt at LaFranchi in the last few days. It looks like AA had taken that record to over 41 knots and then it was broken again by Vincent Valkeaers with 42.23 knots. Lots of National records in the high 30's and at least one at 40 (Swiss mens - Christian Arnold). Also the Woments record broken twice by Heidi Ulrich (35,91 then 37.16) and then again by Zara Davis (37.29)

None of these come close to the best GPS NM claimed by Jacques van der Hout of 44.72 kts.




The current best NM in Australia is Tony Wynhovens 41.58 Kts at Lake George on Jan 26 2012. (verified with two GPS)


There are plenty of fast Aussie women represented in the GPSTC NM top 30, and a few not that far off the WSSRC womens record:



If Lake George conditions improve a little over 2018, these could be bettered in 2019.

But I think this (secret ) spot has the goods to better it too, and we will certainly find out early next year when the usual strong Easterlies come back. . Easterly winds can typically be a bit stronger here than at LG. It's quite common to get 30 knots, and not unusual to get 35 knots or slightly more.



Any Aussies on those lists who fancies a shot at Tony's or Speedfalconsters NM rankings? I will personally help with forecasts, arrange transport and even caddy for you at this spot.

Are there any other spots with this potential??

Roo
876 posts
23 Jul 2018 12:50PM
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Don't forget to pick up fish and chips at the Port Albert wharf for the boatride out to Clonmel Island Daffy. Wonder how many Noah's Ark swim in there for lunch.

kato
VIC, 3506 posts
23 Jul 2018 3:34PM
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Roo said..
Don't forget to pick up fish and chips at the Port Albert wharf for the boatride out to Clonmel Island Daffy. Wonder how many Noah's Ark swim in there for lunch.


Lots , but there really well fed and only catch the slow sailors

stroppo
WA, 747 posts
23 Jul 2018 7:59PM
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That's a great challenge Kato

Roo
876 posts
24 Jul 2018 3:31AM
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sailquik said..

Are there any other spots with this potential??


Try this Daffy, not as many Noahs Arks and a bit longer. wx.iwindsurf.com:443/spot/16102





sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
24 Jul 2018 7:35AM
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Well done Roo. I have posted the location a few times beforeand you were obviously paying attention.
Noahs? No problem. Just don't dangle around for too long.

But a NM spot is no good unless it gets consistent winds over 30 knots. How is it with yours?

Jetlag
NSW, 194 posts
24 Jul 2018 9:44AM
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Does the east coast of King Island ever get blown flat? Nine Mile Beach has a slow arc!!! Wind strength shouldn't be a problem.

Roo
876 posts
24 Jul 2018 10:04AM
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But a NM spot is no good unless it gets consistent winds over 30 knots. How is it with yours?


Click on the link for weather and you'll see. It get's a lot more days over 30 knots than you can handle. Nov 14 days above 25, Dec 21 days over 25, Jan 21 days over 25 etc. on average. Some days it's blowing 70!

John340
QLD, 3363 posts
24 Jul 2018 4:31PM
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Brad's spot PB at Burrum Heads is 38+kts. It will need a very rare combination of a low tide and a cyclone or East Coast low just in the right spot (east of Burrum), to provide the 30+kt SSE wind required, for this to be bettered.





Adriano
11206 posts
24 Jul 2018 4:19PM
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sailquik said..
I saw a bit of Hype about the 'Prince of Speed' (POS ) NM WSSRC record attempt at LaFranchi in the last few days. It looks like AA had taken that record to over 41 knots and then it was broken again by Vincent Valkeaers with 42.23 knots. Lots of National records in the high 30's and at least one at 40 (Swiss mens - Christian Arnold). Also the Woments record broken twice by Heidi Ulrich (35,91 then 37.16) and then again by Zara Davis (37.29)

None of these come close to the best GPS NM claimed by Jacques van der Hout of 44.72 kts.




The current best NM in Australia is Tony Wynhovens 41.58 Kts at Lake George on Jan 26 2012. (verified with two GPS)


There are plenty of fast Aussie women represented in the GPSTC NM top 30, and a few not that far off the WSSRC womens record:



If Lake George conditions improve a little over 2018, these could be bettered in 2019.

But I think this (secret ) spot has the goods to better it too, and we will certainly find out early next year when the usual strong Easterlies come back. . Easterly winds can typically be a bit stronger here than at LG. It's quite common to get 30 knots, and not unusual to get 35 knots or slightly more.



Any Aussies on those lists who fancies a shot at Tony's or Speedfalconsters NM rankings? I will personally help with forecasts, arrange transport and even caddy for you at this spot.

Are there any other spots with this potential??


sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
24 Jul 2018 7:05PM
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Ahh, that spot has HUGE potential Roo! I remember you talking about that region some time ago.

That line would be 145 degrees off the wind, Starboard tack, in a true Westerly, but I suspect there would be some south in the Westerlies around there pretty often.

It's a bit far away and remote for most of us, so I dare say Noahs would be the least of the difficulties.

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
24 Jul 2018 7:11PM
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Brad's spot PB at Burrum Heads is 38+kts. It will need a very rare combination of a low tide and a cyclone or East Coast low just in the right spot (east of Burrum), to provide the 30+kt SSE wind required, for this to be bettered.






Yep. Burrum Heads has always had potential, and if anyone can tap into it, it is Brad.

But, as you say, it is extremely fickle.

The beauty of the Port Albert spot is that it gets very consistent and predictable winds, and is easy to access with a boat. On the ideal Easterly, it would not be impossible to even sail down to it. I dont think tides will be critical either, but time will tell. A true Easterly will make the angle 120 degrees off the wind. A wind angle of 75 to 80 degrees would probably be ideal, which is good because the summer Easterlies usually have some slight North in them.

FishMints
SA, 153 posts
25 Jul 2018 4:51PM
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Flattery Beach on a SW or NE? Long and very shallow, gets very, very windy, but closest weather stations don't accurately reflect conditions or wind history at the spot - same for lots of remote locations. (The Bay has an unfortunate history however - RIP Tony D. 1999)



sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
26 Jul 2018 9:01AM
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That would need East, or South winds. Are either commonly strong?
One would certainly expect that beach to have flat water in thise winds.
Can one sail within a meter to two of the beach with a 20cm fin?
Is the land low so as not to cause wind shadow or turbulence? (it appears promising).
Noahs?

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
26 Jul 2018 9:32AM
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Jetlag said..
Does the east coast of King Island ever get blown flat? Nine Mile Beach has a slow arc!!! Wind strength shouldn't be a problem.


Yeah. You are right about wind strength!

I tried to use the tilt with vertical exaggeration on GE to see if there are dunes blocking the wind, but it was inconclusive. I suspect there are almost always waves crashing on that beach though.

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
26 Jul 2018 8:28AM
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Hope to be there (VIC) around February Daffy, so I'll take you up on it, the Nm is still a category I want to keep pushing my limits on before my body is incapable, and also does it need a boat to get to?

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
26 Jul 2018 5:10PM
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hardie said..
Hope to be there (VIC) around February Daffy, so I'll take you up on it, the Nm is still a category I want to keep pushing my limits on before my body is incapable, and also does it need a boat to get to?


It;s a date Hardie, even if I have to drive back from LG!
Best with a boat.
Hmm, maybe I should try to plug a few of the holes in my boat? Naahhhh.... I have a bucket.

Jacko51
SA, 223 posts
26 Jul 2018 4:50PM
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sailquik said..
That would need East, or South winds. Are either commonly strong?
One would certainly expect that beach to have flat water in thise winds.
Can one sail within a meter to two of the beach with a 20cm fin?
Is the land low so as not to cause wind shadow or turbulence? (it appears promising).
Noahs?



Correct name is Flaherty Beach, Hardwick Bay near Port Turton. Check out the photo's on Google earth.
Tricky or Hoppy ?

FishMints
SA, 153 posts
26 Jul 2018 5:22PM
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Jacko51 said..

sailquik said..
That would need East, or South winds. Are either commonly strong?
One would certainly expect that beach to have flat water in thise winds.
Can one sail within a meter to two of the beach with a 20cm fin?
Is the land low so as not to cause wind shadow or turbulence? (it appears promising).
Noahs?




Correct name is Flaherty Beach, Hardwick Bay near Port Turton. Check out the photo's on Google earth.
Tricky or Hoppy ?


Thanks Jacko - I should have checked that spelling, a friend of mine constantly pronounces it wrong and its rubbed off. (not Tricky or Hoppy).

jimbob SA
SA, 999 posts
26 Jul 2018 7:01PM
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sailquik said..
That would need East, or South winds. Are either commonly strong?
One would certainly expect that beach to have flat water in thise winds.
Can one sail within a meter to two of the beach with a 20cm fin?
Is the land low so as not to cause wind shadow or turbulence? (it appears promising).
Noahs?

Noah's ?
Well a fellow windsurfer was taken by a great white while sailing at nearby Hardwick bay in 1999.



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