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SailRocket's turn to try for the record

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Created by yoyo > 9 months ago, 14 Nov 2011
yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
14 Nov 2011 12:59PM
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SailRocket warming up for its official attempt on the outright speed record at Walvis Bay with a 52.13 knot peak and 49.22 500m

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
14 Nov 2011 2:06PM
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Looks like another highly practical solution to the problem of how to go faster

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
14 Nov 2011 7:16PM
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AUS1111 said...

Looks like another highly practical solution to the problem of how to go faster


.....in a huge carrot Smokin 500 though...

Mux
QLD, 226 posts
14 Nov 2011 8:27PM
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Should be red, everyone knows red goes faster. Good luck to them

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
14 Nov 2011 8:35PM
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Spotty said...

AUS1111 said...

Looks like another highly practical solution to the problem of how to go faster


.....in a huge carrot Smokin 500 though...


Personally I think it looks like a big orange lure. just hope there's not a big fish that also thinks the same as me.

Pretty impressive speeds too.

ULTIMATS
NSW, 28 posts
14 Nov 2011 9:51PM
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Good to see such an appropriate sponsor too.



Nothing like a good curry to get you going !
Theyre the wind beneath my wings...

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
15 Nov 2011 1:52PM
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It is an appropriate sponsor, but not in the way you think ..

www.vestas.com/

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
24 Nov 2011 10:19PM
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I had no idea how fast I had just been as the bastard GT31 gps we use is about the most useless piece of equipment we have on the boat for providing simple speed data. I despair at the people who design that crap! Later we saw did just shy of 48 knots and about a 45.2 knot 500 meter average. Nothing flash and about what it felt like.

Lol

stringer
WA, 703 posts
25 Nov 2011 10:12AM
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nebbian said...

I had no idea how fast I had just been as the bastard GT31 gps we use is about the most useless piece of equipment we have on the boat for providing simple speed data. I despair at the people who design that crap! Later we saw did just shy of 48 knots and about a 45.2 knot 500 meter average. Nothing flash and about what it felt like.

Lol


its still more accurtate than my car's speedo

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
25 Nov 2011 10:24AM
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AUS1111 said...

Looks like another highly practical solution to the problem of how to go faster


I don't think it will fit in the back of my car...

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
25 Nov 2011 12:55PM
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nebbian said...

I had no idea how fast I had just been as the bastard GT31 gps we use is about the most useless piece of equipment we have on the boat for providing simple speed data. I despair at the people who design that crap! Later we saw did just shy of 48 knots and about a 45.2 knot 500 meter average. Nothing flash and about what it felt like.

Lol


Yes a classic case of a tradesman blaming his tools.
"If all else fails, read the instructions"

decrepit
WA, 12766 posts
25 Nov 2011 8:16PM
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nebbian said...

I had no idea how fast I had just been as the bastard GT31 gps we use is about the most useless piece of equipment we have on the boat for providing simple speed data. I despair at the people who design that crap! Later we saw did just shy of 48 knots and about a 45.2 knot 500 meter average. Nothing flash and about what it felt like.

Lol


I suspect he doesn't understand speed genie and has numbers scrolling around on him

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
26 Nov 2011 12:21AM
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Heck I don't understand speed genie...

Just give me my max speed please!

(First thing I did when setting up my 31 was turn that silly thing off)

decrepit
WA, 12766 posts
26 Nov 2011 10:24PM
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Sorry nebs have to disagree with you there, speed genie is great when you set it up right.
You can see what the last run was and the session max, 2 sec and 10sec

Stuthepirate
SA, 3591 posts
27 Nov 2011 7:53AM
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AUS718 said...

Should be red, everyone knows red goes faster. Good luck to them


No one wants to be known as "the guy who rides red rockets"

Jezstrt
TAS, 1471 posts
27 Nov 2011 1:23PM
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decrepit said...

Sorry nebs have to disagree with you there, speed genie is great when you set it up right.
You can see what the last run was and the session max, 2 sec and 10sec



I agree I think it's great as well, but you just need to make sure you delete the history max speeds before you go out. This is easier to do if you have the latest firmware installed and you get a better font

Te Hau
493 posts
27 Nov 2011 3:39PM
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And the big thing......
"if all else fails, read the instructions".
Mr sail rocket obviously has this problem.
Tom Chalkos' web site 'mtbestnet' has all the info these guys need, you just have to read it.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
27 Nov 2011 3:41PM
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Maybe it's good if you get off and walk back after every run...

Trying to read your max speed when bouncing back up the course ready for the next run is just about impossible for me.

Anyway it's good that you can set it up to suit the sailor

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
27 Nov 2011 9:31PM
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nebbian said...

Maybe it's good if you get off and walk back after every run...

Trying to read your max speed when bouncing back up the course ready for the next run is just about impossible for me.

Anyway it's good that you can set it up to suit the sailor


Have you tried the new font Nebs? I found it much easier to read whilst sailing.

decrepit
WA, 12766 posts
27 Nov 2011 9:06PM
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Reading it while sailing is a problem, but that's the case whatever you do.
I quite often stop after I get back, then read the GPS before the next gust comes along.
All you have to do is set the speed genie trigger, higher than your upwind speed and lower than your downwind speed

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
27 Nov 2011 9:51PM
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The problem is that the display changes when the genie is active -- so new font or not when I get that one moment of weightlessness at the top of a piece of chop where my eyes can focus on the display I want it to show me my max speed on the run.

Then with a couple of quick toggles and button presses it's saved to memory and reset, ready for the next run, all without coming off the plane

Works for me, I'm sure that the genie is great for people that stop between runs but I like to keep sailing till I drop

slowboat
WA, 560 posts
28 Nov 2011 11:52AM
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I understand why Paul is frustrated with it.

Almost every time I ask someone here how fast their last run was they say "I dont know the GPS is a bit funny/didnt show the speed etc... I'll find out later when I download". That renders the GPS useless for tuning during the day.

It works fine in some places where there is no chop, or where you stop at the end of the run and have time to fiddle. But if the end of the run is deep water where you have to gybe and sail back to the beach, you lose the speeds of the run. Most of our sailing over here is like that.

So... to turn speed genie off, and always know how fast your last run was (ie you choose when to clear the max speed)

Settings->Speed Genie->OFF

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
28 Nov 2011 1:41PM
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I find even if I do jump off at the end of a run it is difficult to read the display inside the aquapac. You have to get your arm in just the right position relative to the sun...
As for reading it while sailing, I wouldn't even try!

Te Hau
493 posts
28 Nov 2011 2:11PM
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If you fellas have too much data from Speed Genie, go into MISC, scroll through and set only the data you want to see
ie
turn MAX/NS MAX ......off
HISTORY MAX .....off
MAX SPEED ....on
NS MAX AVG .....off
NEW FONT......on (good for me and the other old and going blind among us)

Make sure you set speed genie (in SETTINGS) to a speed above your upwind speed
ie if you're doing 18-22kts upwind and above 30 downwind, set it at 30.
You're not likely to be above 30 going back upwind and speed genie will hold the reading and display it to you until you exceed 30 again.
Put the aqua pack on your forearm near your elbow and its a piece of p to read it as you head back upwind. And if you only have MAX SPEED set, that's all it will show you.

jp747
1553 posts
28 Nov 2011 10:31PM
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well Nebs I can just presume the Company never intended it to be seen like a windsurfer would take a look at it once every run..maybe emailing them might give them an idea for next yrs. model if they understand everyone's needs

mathew
QLD, 2133 posts
29 Nov 2011 9:55AM
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slowboat said...
Almost every time I ask someone here how fast their last run was they say "I dont know the GPS is a bit funny/didnt show the speed etc... I'll find out later when I download". That renders the GPS useless for tuning during the day.

It works fine in some places where there is no chop, or where you stop at the end of the run and have time to fiddle. But if the end of the run is deep water where you have to gybe and sail back to the beach, you lose the speeds of the run. Most of our sailing over here is like that.

So... to turn speed genie off, and always know how fast your last run was (ie you choose when to clear the max speed)

Settings->Speed Genie->OFF


Speed Genie has a min-speed setting before it kicks in. I'll put it out there... if they are sailing back upwind at the same speed they are sailing off the wind, they are doing something wrong!

And if you are slalom sailing: If you are reading it *during* the middle of the next run, of course it wont show your peak speed, but I highly doubt that you can maintain +25kn during a gybe... at some point you will go slowing than your min speed and so the Genie updates... you could always choose to look at your last run's stats just a little earlier.

As for not being able to read it through chop... I haven't met anyone that couldn't read it in choppy conditions, given that a) it wasn't foggy b) the gps/case was located so that you can actually read it.

jimbob SA
SA, 999 posts
29 Nov 2011 10:38AM
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I agree with Nebs, I never use the speed genie just too hard to read, plus puting on and off the reading glasses while sailing is too bloody hard.
my solution is turn it off and then go to max then restore fatest speeds click on top one to dispaly and then lock (4 seconds on big button.) then It will always display the fastest max speed in big font until you beat it and the next one takes over.
most times I just sail and enjoy myself and only look at it at the end of the day. for me sailing comes first and the numbers just happen.



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