The advantage of compulsory posting via KA72 is that the file is stored in a public data base and available for review if required.
Select to expand quoteWindxtasy said..Stuthepirate said..
Why can't all team captains be issued Realspeed software?
When Mal updates it to suit the 52 I think all captains should have a copy, it doesn't cost much & it's what we have been using since the start.Select to expand quote
The team captain is then responsible for posting all PB and scoring (Jellybean) files.Select to expand quote
I know one WA team captain checks every PB his team posts.
That would be me 
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Also Realspeed can't check files from the Canmore device
I check them in Realspeed but the user is not breaking records so it doesn't matter how accurate it is really.
Captains are responsible to check files, simple, and they would be aware of the hardware team members are using.
If it still happens then the Captain should be reamed & the member booted!
Grow up people it's a game 
Doesn't KA72 already store all files uploaded to be reviewed by anyone that wants to see them? Why tie up GPSTC site with more info already available elsewhere? The brains trust keep saying they don't agree with using KA72 as there are inaccuracies with results but I'm seeing more people say they use this site to upload to GPSTC so where does that leave us? Most seem to be saying they go windsurfing and upload using KA72 and this means NOT pouring over their results on another program like Realspeed to see if there is a problem. How does this keep everything fair? It's not cheating either. It's having fun on the water and throwing up your results.
Can Dylan be contacted to see what can be done about fine tuning his program for everyone to use? This keeps the honesty thing in check as all results are open to see by anyone and can be checked anytime. Also lets us mere mortals see what the good guys do by seeing where they go and what speeds they do.
It saddens me to see inter-team angst. For what it's worth the Board Crazy guys are some of the best Windsurfers Australia has to offer. I highly doubt they post any false info and if anyone would like to question their results I suggest booking a holiday in Brisbane and go for a sail with them. It's a very humbling experience.
To keep it fair would be to have everyone using the same program to post results. So far there seems to be a lot saying KA72. Maybe we all need to work with Dylan to fine tune what's going on and have a common goal.
May the wind gods smile upon you all.
Cheers
Marty
As a team Captain windexy. I thought that comes with it. Being responsible and checking the data
Select to expand quoteMartinF2 said..
Doesn't KA72 already store all files uploaded to be reviewed by anyone that wants to see them? Why tie up GPSTC site with more info already available elsewhere? The brains trust keep saying they don't agree with using KA72 as there are inaccuracies with results but I'm seeing more people say they use this site to upload to GPSTC so where does that leave us? Most seem to be saying they go windsurfing and upload using KA72 and this means NOT pouring over their results on another program like Realspeed to see if there is a problem. How does this keep everything fair? It's not cheating either. It's having fun on the water and throwing up your results.
Can Dylan be contacted to see what can be done about fine tuning his program for everyone to use? This keeps the honesty thing in check as all results are open to see by anyone and can be checked anytime. Also lets us mere mortals see what the good guys do by seeing where they go and what speeds they do.
It saddens me to see inter-team angst. For what it's worth the Board Crazy guys are some of the best Windsurfers Australia has to offer. I highly doubt they post any false info and if anyone would like to question their results I suggest booking a holiday in Brisbane and go for a sail with them. It's a very humbling experience.
To keep it fair would be to have everyone using the same program to post results. So far there seems to be a lot saying KA72. Maybe we all need to work with Dylan to fine tune what's going on and have a common goal.
May the wind gods smile upon you all.
Cheers
Marty
Well said Marty
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The advantage of compulsory posting via KA72 is that the file is stored in a public data base and available for review if required.
I was talking about using Ka72 to process the files, mandatory posting is a different matter, some people would still resist this idea although I find it a tad more palatable.
The thing is how would you do it, somehow the GTC site has to know you've posted the correct file to KA72.
I pointed out to Dylan the lack of KA72 filtering in the latest debacle and unfortunately he didn't seem very interested.
I'm not in the business of trying to tell Dylan how to run his website, what he does is entirely up to him.
Hi all my to bobs worth is that ka72 should not the only way to post some of my top alphas didn't even register on it more than once and my files were sent to the gurus around Australia and there was no issues with them so any of my good sessions I get them looked at by other programs as a cross check as I only have access to ka72 at home all my files are on there and it is easy for me and it's great to have access to it and I appreciate it but there needs to be a option no matter what unless you can see the full data to analyse this GPSTC is such a good thing in my life of fun and don't fix what ain't broke also all the great people I've met through this lets keep having a great time
Happy Days!
Select to expand quotedecrepit said..John340 said..
The advantage of compulsory posting via KA72 is that the file is stored in a public data base and available for review if required.
I was talking about using Ka72 to process the files, mandatory posting is a different matter, some people would still resist this idea although I find it a tad more palatable.
The thing is how would you do it, somehow the GTC site has to know you've posted the correct file to KA72.
I pointed out to Dylan the lack of KA72 filtering in the latest debacle and unfortunately he didn't seem very interested.
I'm not in the business of trying to tell Dylan how to run his website, what he does is entirely up to him.
I believe the filtering is a non issue. Spike or anomalies in results are very obvious and always checked by team captains. The real issue is having a file to back up a result. KA72 provides that functionality.
As an added bonus, as Marty said it also makes available, for public interest, the tracks of good sailors for review by improving sailors. I often download other sailors tracks from KA72 to review on GPS Results and compare to my own for a particular session.
One possible solution could be post to gpstc with what ever software you
Choose but have the file submitted to ka72 where it can be downloaded and checked by everyone.
As for secret spots stick that file in your ¥%=rse
Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..decrepit said..John340 said..
The advantage of compulsory posting via KA72 is that the file is stored in a public data base and available for review if required.
I was talking about using Ka72 to process the files, mandatory posting is a different matter, some people would still resist this idea although I find it a tad more palatable.
The thing is how would you do it, somehow the GTC site has to know you've posted the correct file to KA72.
I pointed out to Dylan the lack of KA72 filtering in the latest debacle and unfortunately he didn't seem very interested.
I'm not in the business of trying to tell Dylan how to run his website, what he does is entirely up to him.
I believe the filtering is a non issue. Spike or anomalies in results are very obvious and always checked by team captains. The real issue is having a file to back up a result. KA72 provides that functionality.
Unfortunately, that is not the case. Errors are not at all always obvious or able to be checked by team captains. Filtering and checking is a big issue.Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..
As an added bonus, as Marty said it also makes available, for public interest, the tracks of good sailors for review by improving sailors. I often download other sailors tracks from KA72 to review on GPS Results and compare to my own for a particular session.
The issue of making all files available to everyone is tied up with peoples feelings of privacy and should never be compulsory. If a large number choose to do that, as they do now on KA, thats great. We are taking now about implementing a system where all files for posts are uploaded. They would be are either linked to their location on KA72, or uploaded directly to the GPS-TC server for either public view or checking by team captains and those nominated for the job by the committee. Once files are checked that would be flagged as such. After a month or two, files uploaded to the GPSTC server may be deleted as warranted to save storage space so the onus is still on individuals to save their own files somewhere else.
There is a general agreement in the committee that this will go a long way towards addressing most of the issues. Give us some time to work it all out and find a way to implement it.
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We are talking now about implementing a system where all files for posts are uploaded. They would be are either linked to their location on KA72, or uploaded directly to the GPS-TC server for either public view or checking by team captains and those nominated for the job by the committee.
That sounds much better than enforcing analysis with ka72. Over time, I have encountered problems with each program/web site I used (ka72.com, GPS Action Replay, GPSResults), and had to switch to another program to get results. Besides problems with spikes and alphas that others have described, it is often necessary to use software to combine data files (more an issue now with the limited battery and # of data points on the GW-52).
Sometimes, it would also be cool to be able to look at data files from other teams. For example, when I see the nautical mile runs above 40 knots, I'm always curious how much of that was near shore/barriers, and how much in open water.
The best thing about using KA72 to post is that it makes it easy. I can do it from anywhere, I don't have to be at home in front of my computer. If the GPSTC can set up a system that makes it just as simple then well done. The way to get more people posting and involved is to make it as easy as possible to do so. The more rules we have then we end up with different interpretations of them and hence ill will amongst participants. It always been about mateship and windsurfing together, helping out each other with tips, advice and of course some friendly rivalry. I'd hate to see the GPSTC lose any of that.
A bit off topic but I have to point out that there are not a whole bunch of 40Kt Nauties out there!
The best ones in Australia have been done at Lake George right out the middle if a very large lake, mostly many hundreds of meters from the shoreline. But that is still in very flat water, kept that way by a very fin friendly type of weed right to the water surface! . Likewise there have been some stonking NM's in WA at Albany and Mandurah where weed flat water is again in play and one sails quite some distance from the shore. There are a couple of other places where good NM's have been done in proximity to a sandbar, but not in the high 30's as far as I know. It is very hard to find a sandbar long enough and straight enough with the right amount of wind and angle for top NM's, oh, except for the legendary Walvis Bay in Namibia!
Ever heard of La Franqui in Southern France Daffy? They do 44 knot NM runs there. Also Southend on Sea in the Thames Estuary just east of London, UK. Both faster spots than Walvis Bay. Not much weed either but big sandbanks. Da Curve in Holland also has a few 40 knot runs behind the sandbar.
Select to expand quotesailquik said..
A bit off topic but I have to point out that there are not a whole bunch of 40Kt Nauties out there!
The best ones in Australia have been done at Lake George right out the middle if a very large lake, mostly many hundreds of meters from the shoreline. But that is still in very flat water, kept that way by a very fin friendly type of weed right to the water surface! . Likewise there have been some stonking NM's in WA at Albany and Mandurah where weed flat water is again in play and one sails quite some distance from the shore. There are a couple of other places where good NM's have been done in proximity to a sandbar, but not in the high 30's as far as I know. It is very hard to find a sandbar long enough and straight enough with the right amount of wind and angle for top NM's, oh, except for the legendary Walvis Bay in Namibia!
Daffy,
Both Vando and Phil Nott recorded 36kt Nms at Burrum Heads during Windfest 2013
Select to expand quoteJohn340 said..sailquik said..
A bit off topic but I have to point out that there are not a whole bunch of 40Kt Nauties out there!
The best ones in Australia have been done at Lake George right out the middle if a very large lake, mostly many hundreds of meters from the shoreline. But that is still in very flat water, kept that way by a very fin friendly type of weed right to the water surface! . Likewise there have been some stonking NM's in WA at Albany and Mandurah where weed flat water is again in play and one sails quite some distance from the shore. There are a couple of other places where good NM's have been done in proximity to a sandbar, but not in the high 30's as far as I know. It is very hard to find a sandbar long enough and straight enough with the right amount of wind and angle for top NM's, oh, except for the legendary Walvis Bay in Namibia!
Daffy,
Both Vando and Phil Nott recorded 36kt Nms at Burrum Heads during Windfest 2013
Anyone check their tracks?
Sorry couldn't resist
Select to expand quoteAUS 808 said..John340 said..sailquik said..
A bit off topic but I have to point out that there are not a whole bunch of 40Kt Nauties out there!
The best ones in Australia have been done at Lake George right out the middle if a very large lake, mostly many hundreds of meters from the shoreline. But that is still in very flat water, kept that way by a very fin friendly type of weed right to the water surface! . Likewise there have been some stonking NM's in WA at Albany and Mandurah where weed flat water is again in play and one sails quite some distance from the shore. There are a couple of other places where good NM's have been done in proximity to a sandbar, but not in the high 30's as far as I know. It is very hard to find a sandbar long enough and straight enough with the right amount of wind and angle for top NM's, oh, except for the legendary Walvis Bay in Namibia!
Daffy,
Both Vando and Phil Nott recorded 36kt Nms at Burrum Heads during Windfest 2013
Anyone check their tracks?
Sorry couldn't resist
Ha Ha.
But seriously, you can if you want to. They are on KA72. Use the search function, enter Burrum Heads for Location, 12/3/13 for track date and a minimum speed of 39 kts.
I'm struggling with this topic, I've read all the posts and my GPSTC emails and I still don't get it!!!! 
This is for fun!!!
Post your speeds in good faith, having checked the numbers before posting.
If you wish to put sheep stations, place ya tracks on GPSSS for all to see.
Got a secret spot.....well done on finding it.
Play nice, go fast and enjoy the stoke
+1
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I'm struggling with this topic, I've read all the posts and my GPSTC emails and I still don't get it!!!!
This is for fun!!!
Post your speeds in good faith, having checked the numbers before posting.
If you wish to put sheep stations, place ya tracks on GPSSS for all to see.
Got a secret spot.....well done on finding it.
Play nice, go fast and enjoy the stoke
Kato I agree %100, we sail because we enjoy it.
Select to expand quotekato said..
I'm struggling with this topic, I've read all the posts and my GPSTC emails and I still don't get it!!!!
This is for fun!!!
Post your speeds in good faith, having checked the numbers before posting.
If you wish to put sheep stations, place ya tracks on GPSSS for all to see.
Got a secret spot.....well done on finding it.
Play nice, go fast and enjoy the stoke
Totally agree with you Kato.
I really feel sorry for Hardie and Nebs to see what they created turn into this crap.
Thanks to the current admin for trying to sort this out. When it is done maybe we can get back to enjoying the sport we love and forget all the B.S.
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Ever heard of La Franqui in Southern France Daffy? They do 44 knot NM runs there. Also Southend on Sea in the Thames Estuary just east of London, UK. Both faster spots than Walvis Bay. Not much weed either but big sandbanks. Da Curve in Holland also has a few 40 knot runs behind the sandbar.
Yep. But only one over 44 at La Franqui though and two over 40 from both Southend and Lake George. Also two just over 40 from Da Curve and one from Walvis bay, but I think Dunky may have done one there as well? All the rest of the 16 40+ Kts NM's are from La Franqui.
Like I said, not a lot of them. 
And all of them from only five spots in the world!!
