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Created by thedoor > 9 months ago, 31 May 2021
thedoor
2469 posts
31 May 2021 3:15PM
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Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)

azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
31 May 2021 7:39PM
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Why don't you join Roo's GPSTC team - The West Coast Speedsters.
He'll help you to go fast

thedoor
2469 posts
31 May 2021 11:10PM
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azymuth said..
Why don't you join Roo's GPSTC team - The West Coast Speedsters.
He'll help you to go fast


Will wait for the the invite ;)

duzzi
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31 May 2021 11:47PM
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thedoor said..
Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)




Where there you? 3rd ave or Coyote? the Speedfreak might be to down hauled? Or maybe it is the camera lens.

thedoor
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1 Jun 2021 4:42AM
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duzzi said..

thedoor said..
Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)





Where there you? 3rd ave or Coyote? the Speedfreak might be to down hauled? Or maybe it is the camera lens.


Palo alto.

Re too much DH, it's possible as I am not the best rigger. It is listed for 34cm but my ext only goes to 32cm. I did have it max downhaul (32) and lots of outhaul cause most others were going out on less than 5 something's and that is 6.5. but I didn't feel OP at all.

I guess it is a thing for slalom guys to be riding 1+m more than bump and jump guys?

duzzi
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1 Jun 2021 9:37AM
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duzzi said..





thedoor said..
Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)









Where there you? 3rd ave or Coyote? the Speedfreak might be to down hauled? Or maybe it is the camera lens.




Palo alto.

Re too much DH, it's possible as I am not the best rigger. It is listed for 34cm but my ext only goes to 32cm. I did have it max downhaul (32) and lots of outhaul cause most others were going out on less than 5 something's and that is 6.5. but I didn't feel OP at all.

I guess it is a thing for slalom guys to be riding 1+m more than bump and jump guys?



One meter or more., but the Speedfreak is not really so great to sail overpowered. It think one meter difference is the limit, then it will start to deform, or at least my test-sample did years ago. I never passed 26-27 knots with that sail.

Overpowered ... at 70 Kg I can be on 6.5-6.0 when people are out with 4.7. Not really a problem (at least in flattish water). Once you get in the proper asset the sail and board do all the work. But a pro level sailor can sail in control on a very big sail and way harder conditions. Just last week I was out at Crissy Field in San Francisco very powered up with 3.7, basically nobody with anything bigger than 4.2 out. Big chop with some swell. There was a guy out with an Isonic and a Severne Race 7.8 (yep ... twice the size). He was having fun, doing 360s (followed by a jibe) on the inside

thedoor
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1 Jun 2021 12:58PM
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duzzi said..

thedoor said..





duzzi said..






thedoor said..
Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)










Where there you? 3rd ave or Coyote? the Speedfreak might be to down hauled? Or maybe it is the camera lens.





Palo alto.

Re too much DH, it's possible as I am not the best rigger. It is listed for 34cm but my ext only goes to 32cm. I did have it max downhaul (32) and lots of outhaul cause most others were going out on less than 5 something's and that is 6.5. but I didn't feel OP at all.

I guess it is a thing for slalom guys to be riding 1+m more than bump and jump guys?




One meter or more., but the Speedfreak is not really so great to sail overpowered. It think one meter difference is the limit, then it will start to deform, or at least my test-sample did years ago. I never passed 26-27 knots with that sail.

Overpowered ... at 70 Kg I can be on 6.5-6.0 when people are out with 4.7. Not really a problem (at least in flattish water). Once you get in the proper asset the sail and board do all the work. But a pro level sailor can sail in control on a very big sail and way harder conditions. Just last week I was out at Crissy Field in San Francisco very powered up with 3.7, basically nobody with anything bigger than 4.2 out. Big chop with some swell. There was a guy out with an Isonic and a Severne Race 7.8 (yep ... twice the size). He was having fun, doing 360s (followed by a jibe) on the inside


OK good to know. I am thinking about adding a 7.5 speedfreak, do you ever go that big in the bay?

Not really onboard with full on race sails yet.

duzzi
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1 Jun 2021 1:23PM
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thedoor said..

duzzi said..


thedoor said..






duzzi said..







thedoor said..
Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)











Where there you? 3rd ave or Coyote? the Speedfreak might be to down hauled? Or maybe it is the camera lens.






Palo alto.

Re too much DH, it's possible as I am not the best rigger. It is listed for 34cm but my ext only goes to 32cm. I did have it max downhaul (32) and lots of outhaul cause most others were going out on less than 5 something's and that is 6.5. but I didn't feel OP at all.

I guess it is a thing for slalom guys to be riding 1+m more than bump and jump guys?





One meter or more., but the Speedfreak is not really so great to sail overpowered. It think one meter difference is the limit, then it will start to deform, or at least my test-sample did years ago. I never passed 26-27 knots with that sail.

Overpowered ... at 70 Kg I can be on 6.5-6.0 when people are out with 4.7. Not really a problem (at least in flattish water). Once you get in the proper asset the sail and board do all the work. But a pro level sailor can sail in control on a very big sail and way harder conditions. Just last week I was out at Crissy Field in San Francisco very powered up with 3.7, basically nobody with anything bigger than 4.2 out. Big chop with some swell. There was a guy out with an Isonic and a Severne Race 7.8 (yep ... twice the size). He was having fun, doing 360s (followed by a jibe) on the inside



OK good to know. I am thinking about adding a 7.5 speedfreak, do you ever go that big in the bay?

Not really onboard with full on race sails yet.


If I were you I would stay away from the speedfreak, they are not fast sails at all. I can go 30-32 10" knots with my Point-7 ACX (no cams), and I have repeated best 2" at 36 knots with HSM GPS (4 cams). The Speedfreak will hold you back, it is a recreational sail.

Yes, of course you can use a 7.5 in the Bay, the guy was using a 7.8! At my weight my 7.3-7. sails are mostly used in october, march and during winter.

thedoor
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2 Jun 2021 1:15AM
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duzzi said..

thedoor said..


duzzi said..



thedoor said..







duzzi said..








thedoor said..
Having lots of fun with this new to me discipline. Yesterday I hit 25.6 knots (10sec)












Where there you? 3rd ave or Coyote? the Speedfreak might be to down hauled? Or maybe it is the camera lens.







Palo alto.

Re too much DH, it's possible as I am not the best rigger. It is listed for 34cm but my ext only goes to 32cm. I did have it max downhaul (32) and lots of outhaul cause most others were going out on less than 5 something's and that is 6.5. but I didn't feel OP at all.

I guess it is a thing for slalom guys to be riding 1+m more than bump and jump guys?






One meter or more., but the Speedfreak is not really so great to sail overpowered. It think one meter difference is the limit, then it will start to deform, or at least my test-sample did years ago. I never passed 26-27 knots with that sail.

Overpowered ... at 70 Kg I can be on 6.5-6.0 when people are out with 4.7. Not really a problem (at least in flattish water). Once you get in the proper asset the sail and board do all the work. But a pro level sailor can sail in control on a very big sail and way harder conditions. Just last week I was out at Crissy Field in San Francisco very powered up with 3.7, basically nobody with anything bigger than 4.2 out. Big chop with some swell. There was a guy out with an Isonic and a Severne Race 7.8 (yep ... twice the size). He was having fun, doing 360s (followed by a jibe) on the inside




OK good to know. I am thinking about adding a 7.5 speedfreak, do you ever go that big in the bay?

Not really onboard with full on race sails yet.



If I were you I would stay away from the speedfreak, they are not fast sails at all. I can go 30-32 10" knots with my Point-7 ACX (no cams), and I have repeated best 2" at 36 knots with HSM GPS (4 cams). The Speedfreak will hold you back, it is a recreational sail.

Yes, of course you can use a 7.5 in the Bay, the guy was using a 7.8! At my weight my 7.3-7. sails are mostly used in october, march and during winter.


Got it. I like the speedfreak for foiling, so it needs to be dual purpose.

Maybe in a few seasons when my slalom skills are better and my speeds have topped out I will explore faster sails. One of my mates has a 4 cam race sail he can loan me with mast and everything so maybe I will do a side by side test.

LeeD
3939 posts
2 Jun 2021 4:01AM
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It's less about gear than you'd expect.
A newbie bud of mine has been GPS'd at consistent 30 peaks over the weekend. He's that perfect 185 lbs and 5'11", 6.5 3 cam and Goya 115.
I'm sailing almost even with 5.0 1995 Windwing wave and tri fin Firewave 92, in flattish waters.
Top speeds very similar, he get's me upwind in the lulls.

LeeD
3939 posts
2 Jun 2021 5:42AM
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Also, respect the gear you are using.
Most sails with roach have great midrange, so use it there and avoid the very top end.

thedoor
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2 Jun 2021 7:43AM
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Also, respect the gear you are using.
Most sails with roach have great midrange, so use it there and avoid the very top end.


What is roach?

LeeD
3939 posts
2 Jun 2021 8:13AM
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That fat part of your sail between the 2nd batten from the tip to 1 batten above your boom.
It blows out before your leech when you're OP'd, causes stagger and backhand loading.

cald
QLD, 164 posts
2 Jun 2021 10:20AM
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I all ways thought.... Roach is actually anything outside of a triangle drawn with straight lines between the tack, clew and tip of the sail? Google seems to agree.

Modern windsurf sails tend to have roach on all three sides of that triangle, not always but mostly

LeeD
3939 posts
2 Jun 2021 11:07AM
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I google agrees, that is outdated.
No pinhead sails in existence anymore, right?

cald
QLD, 164 posts
2 Jun 2021 1:42PM
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LeeD said..
I google agrees, that is outdated.
No pinhead sails in existence anymore, right?


Pinhead or not has no relevance. Ezzy sails has a clear diagram using a modern shaped sail as the example

www.ezzy.com/rig-support/ezzy-basic-sail-design-theory/



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