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Locosys appear to be planning a new Windsurfing GPS - Survey

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Created by sailquik > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
21 Nov 2018 7:31PM
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It looks as though Locosys may be planning to design and build a new windsurfing GPS. They have posted a survey on their Facebook page: Locosys Club.

I encourage all interested to submit this survey and encourage you to think about the mentioning the things I have listed below

My submission:

Any new Windsurfing/Kitesurfing GPS Should include the following features:

-36 hr battery recording life,
-waterproof: enough to withstand high speed water impact,
-at least 2 gb data recording,
-at least 5Hz update rate,
-Multi GNSS for more satellites and possibly accuracy.
-Large antenna for better/more accurate data,
-Must have Doppler error value recording,
-Speed Genie as current GW-60 with large font,
-speed talk english (and otherlangage) audo feedback of current speed and Genie readout,
-able to be securely bicep arm mounted,
-induction charging without wires,
-wifi or bluetooth download of data.

Any new device must be able to communicate as well with Apple Mac OS (have a Mac OS utility) as with Windows OS. Even better if it can be a standard memory format accessible by all OS including Linux and Android.

I suggest that a slightly larger Bicep arm mounted device is much better, as you can have a larger antenna, larger display, larger battery and larger unit to make integrating all the required features easier and possible.

The watch size/form factor limits it's use for us. There are many among us that want 24hr+ non stop ability, and multi day session ability without recharging, and a watch won't fit a big enough battery.

If you are going to do a watch, make sure it has a secure, reliable and replaceable wrist band that does not crack or break.

Also, implement a warranty return process that does not cost the consumer to retailer. The current one makes the retailer not viable to sell the GW-60 if there are returns.

Please do NOT use a touch screen. They were a disaster in the GW-52 and they are also suseptable to accidental activation in use.

We do not need a colour display screen! High contrast Black and Grey is better. It will use far less battery power and is easiest to see and less expensive to buy. There would be no objection if the colour display did not add the the cost and power consumption.

We don't use " smart logging" as it confuses the analysing software.
Also "max speed" at 5hz and 10hz is misleading, as it's just an unrealistic
peak.
We need 2s and 10s averages in the display.



Locosys club FB page:

facebook.com/LOCOSYS.Club/


A further comment for this forum: Please think carefully about asking for features that are technically very difficult or features that will dramtically increase cost. If you are not sure, you can always raise and discuss them in this forum.

BSN101
WA, 2372 posts
21 Nov 2018 5:36PM
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Daffy, Has anyone in Aust seen or tested the new one f Europe? It looks good from the pictures but is rather pricey,

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
21 Nov 2018 8:43PM
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Apart from the one that GPSTC has ordered for testing I am aware of two others who have ordered the Motion GPS.
There was some delay as the manufacturer found some bugs and decided to upgrade the hardware and firmware, but we are expecting to receive them very soon. The fact that he did this is great and we were happy to wait.

kato
VIC, 3506 posts
21 Nov 2018 9:27PM
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Can I just have a GT31 that's waterproof and ditch the watch.
The GT was almost perfect

windsurftom
NSW, 389 posts
22 Nov 2018 5:47AM
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kato said..
Can I just have a GT31 that's waterproof and ditch the watch.
The GT was almost perfect


Yeah can they develop this as the less expensive option. I would buy another

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
22 Nov 2018 10:09AM
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windsurftom said..
Yeah can they develop this as the less expensive option. I would buy another


Realistically, I ant see it getting significantly cheaper. Especially with out limited market and if the production runs only go for a few years as has been the case. But they definitly need to hold the price from rising!!

sailquik
VIC, 6165 posts
22 Nov 2018 10:29AM
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kato said..
Can I just have a GT31 that's waterproof and ditch the watch.
The GT was almost perfect




'Almost perfect' is going WAY too far! There are a large number of things that could be greatly improved on from the GT-31.

Waterproofing (or lack thereof) was always a huge sore point. Many of us lost multiple units to drowning and this was one of the biggest complaints.

The GW-60 did actually bring some very big improvements: 5Hz, Waterproof, Much better Genie. (I dont consider wrist wearing to be an advantage, but some obviously do)

But it also lost some features that are very important: Long battery life. Virtually unlimited recording time, ease of transfer of data via SD card.

A new device at around the same size as the GT-31, or slightly smaller, could reinstate the long battery life and recording time, and have a much larger screen for more information and clearer viewing with larger fonts. If it has inductive charging and BT/WiFi download, the case can be made far more waterproof. If it is able to be worn securely on the upper arm, it will eliminate the 'over/under' watch on the wrist thing for better reception. If it can be removed from its arm band and worn on (or in) the helmet it would have even better reception and reliability. And wouldn't it be great if it has a 'speed talk' function that could announce your current speed and then last run, just like GPS-Logit does right now. It would be easier to hear from the bicep as well, being closer to your ears than if it was on your wrist. Even better if mounted on your helmet. The incorporation of Bluetooth would also make BT ear buds viable for the speed talk feedback.

Adriano
11206 posts
22 Nov 2018 12:32PM
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kato said..
Can I just have a GT31 that's waterproof and ditch the watch.

Well it could be a bit thinner too and have that stupid flicky button replaced by separate scroll and select buttons. The hatch is also rubbish and next to impossible to open with cold wet fingers.

kato
VIC, 3506 posts
22 Nov 2018 3:59PM
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Adriano said..

kato said..
Can I just have a GT31 that's waterproof and ditch the watch.


Well it could be a bit thinner too and have that stupid flicky button replaced by separate scroll and select buttons. The hatch is also rubbish and next to impossible to open with cold wet fingers.


Open the hatch at home when warm or sail in Queensland

Adriano
11206 posts
22 Nov 2018 2:51PM
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Yeah but yeah but yeah but......yeah but.

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
22 Nov 2018 5:07PM
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unless they use an amoled screen (very unlikely) the colour screen should not impact the battery life.

berowne
NSW, 1522 posts
28 Nov 2018 7:39AM
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I'd also like a race start timer for those rare GPS hour challenges
And a bigger time display looped in with the speed stats. Sometimes it helps to know when to pack up.

berowne
NSW, 1522 posts
28 Nov 2018 7:45AM
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But link seems to fail...

fanatic02
NSW, 304 posts
31 Dec 2018 5:01PM
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I would pay a extra few hundred for a well built watch that would actually last .My second gw60 band has broken recently . And yes i suggested this in the Locosys online form .



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