Ok. So a lot of us are either at LG or heading/planing to go down or across. Could we get some accurate feed back please on a daily basis lol. Is water dropping?
Get you ass down here 
same as Primbee but the chop is not as aggressive.
Happy Days
Hurry up Larko 
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
Select to expand quotehardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
Thanks Joe, great report. While you are at it, would you drop your car on the Indian Pacific train again - it seemed like a superb way of doing it, but were there any cons? ( costs, trailers etc etc)
Select to expand quotefangman said..hardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
Thanks Joe, great report. While you are at it, would you drop your car on the Indian Pacific train again - it seemed like a superb way of doing it, but were there any cons? ( costs, trailers etc etc)
The Indian Pacific with car on motor-rail was superb, will do it every year and have booked for Dec 22 this year. Cruisey, social, culinary, alcohol and coffees till you drop, Fabulous staff not your typical "service is beneath me attitude of Australians" The only complaint I heard voiced by several people was the difficulty in sleeping with the trains rocking movement and occassional jolts when the track is bad.
Car on motor-rail needs to meet specific dimensions. You used to be able to tow a trailer or caravan within size limits. Now you have to ask for special permission, so not sure about that one?
Select to expand quotehardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
But you never ventured from behind the spit to check out any where else. Me and Sammy had a ball on the other side.
Select to expand quotehardie said..
The Indian Pacific with car on motor-rail was superb, will do it every year and have booked for Dec 22 this year. Cruisey, social, culinary, alcohol and coffees till you drop, Fabulous staff not your typical "service is beneath me attitude of Australians" The only complaint I heard voiced by several people was the difficulty in sleeping with the trains rocking movement and occassional jolts when the track is bad.
Totally agree with you Hardie, the only way to cross the Nullabor. Had no trouble sleeping, motion of the train was hypnotic. I was in Gold Kangaroo class and had a lovely private cabin. Food and service was superb.
Roo
Select to expand quotehardie said..fangman said..hardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
Thanks Joe, great report. While you are at it, would you drop your car on the Indian Pacific train again - it seemed like a superb way of doing it, but were there any cons? ( costs, trailers etc etc)
The Indian Pacific with car on motor-rail was superb, will do it every year and have booked for Dec 22 this year. Cruisey, social, culinary, alcohol and coffees till you drop, Fabulous staff not your typical "service is beneath me attitude of Australians" The only complaint I heard voiced by several people was the difficulty in sleeping with the trains rocking movement and occassional jolts when the track is bad.
Car on motor-rail needs to meet specific dimensions. You used to be able to tow a trailer or caravan within size limits. Now you have to ask for special permission, so not sure about that one?
Thanks Joe, that's great info. I am going to look into the Ind-Pac train and add it to my list of windsurfing things to do.
Select to expand quotehardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
Haaaa 
Thanks Hardie.
Jimbob please fill us in.
Im thinking waiting til last week Feb possibly March.
Select to expand quotejimbob SA said..hardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
But you never ventured from behind the spit to check out any where else. Me and Sammy had a ball on the other side.
Jamie you probably need to expand on that for the readers of this thread.
My post was to address the issue that I had created in the minds of WA sailors 
I had/have been telling people for years that LG has acres and acres of dead-flat water, with the best winds!!!! AS the Lake is now, at least the dead flat water for acres and acres are not present at the moment. I do not want to be lynched by angry/disappointed WA sailors saying to me I took 2 weeks off work drove 6,000kms and you said there's be acres of flat water.........
and then they string me up by the nearest tree
I at least have warned them with a live update, and may now be allowed back into WA still breathing
Select to expand quotehardie said..jimbob SA said..hardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
But you never ventured from behind the spit to check out any where else. Me and Sammy had a ball on the other side.
Jamie you probably need to expand on that for the readers of this thread.
My post was to address the issue that I had created in the minds of WA sailors I had/have been telling people for years that LG has acres and acres of dead-flat water, with the best winds!!!! AS the Lake is now, at least the dead flat water for acres and acres are not present at the moment. I do not want to be lynched by angry/disappointed WA sailors saying to me I took 2 weeks off work drove 6,000kms and you said there's be acres of flat water......... and then they string me up by the nearest tree I at least have warned them with a live update, and may now be allowed back into WA still breathing
I don't think you need to worry Hards. Once we let Firiebob back in, it was pretty clear we don't have standards anymore.
Select to expand quotefangman said..hardie said..jimbob SA said..hardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
But you never ventured from behind the spit to check out any where else. Me and Sammy had a ball on the other side.
Jamie you probably need to expand on that for the readers of this thread.
My post was to address the issue that I had created in the minds of WA sailors I had/have been telling people for years that LG has acres and acres of dead-flat water, with the best winds!!!! AS the Lake is now, at least the dead flat water for acres and acres are not present at the moment. I do not want to be lynched by angry/disappointed WA sailors saying to me I took 2 weeks off work drove 6,000kms and you said there's be acres of flat water......... and then they string me up by the nearest tree I at least have warned them with a live update, and may now be allowed back into WA still breathing
I don't think you need to worry Hards. Once we let Firiebob back in, it was pretty clear we don't have standards anymore.
Who are you wise man of science?
Select to expand quotefangman said..hardie said..
For West Australians "Is it worth Sandgropers doing the trip to LG atm?"
Water State: Right at this moment = Hmm....... Difficult, The water is nowhere flat as last year, While the spit is Flat, it's short and the wind angle can be a bit square for super speeds depending on angle of the wind, its the acres of dead flat water that are worth doing the 6,000km round trip for, and they dont exist at this moment so therefore for flat water your better off at Lilacs, Fangies, Liptons or Point Grey. Rating 3 star ***
Winds: when the SE'ter is blowing its probably still a superior wind to anything we get in WA, colder denser stronger and more consistent. Just dont seem to be getting a lot of them Rating 4 star ****
Socially: Fabulous, getting to meet GPSTCers from all over Australia, and new friends to be made Rating 5 star *****
Upon reflection of my fabulous sail at the spit on Tuesday, the wind was 25 to 30kts, and in similar winds last year on the acres of dead flat water I was doing 41's and 40's every run, pick the gust and pick your angle, the sail lightens up and you get sucked/pushed to warp speed, at the spit on tues the wind was a bit square, so the feeling was massive power in the sail feeling over powered and never lightening up or getting that phenomenal push/suck deep into the wind, was super exhilirating being on the edge, and I have never sailed that fast squarish to the wind, but the negative I was stuck in the 37/38/39kt range.
EDIT: What would I do if I'd planned a trip to LG, and the 10 day forecast doesnt look good, I'd look at the WA forecasts, and my first choice if the forecast was good in Albany, would be to Cancel the LG trip and go to Lilacs.
PS: Disclaimer = These are just my personal opinions, I am not sponsored by WA Tourism, sometimes there are other reasons to travel that are more important than cracking 40kts, SUCH AS = the experience, the adventure, seeing and experiencing new places, meeting new people, seeing old frinds, seeing family, and the list goes on................ However, if you think your coming to LG to crack your first 40kts, or sail in perfect conditions, hmmm think again
Thanks Joe, great report. While you are at it, would you drop your car on the Indian Pacific train again - it seemed like a superb way of doing it, but were there any cons? ( costs, trailers etc etc)
I have taken my car over the nullabor on the indian Pacific, and if I was to go to LG that is what I would do - especially if going on my own.
4WD can only go as far as Adelaide due to height restrictions in NSW - no problem for LG. You can't pack anything on the roof racks and all luggage has to be below window level.
Car was free with a gold class ticket - but that was some years ago.
