GPS Team Challenge Rules Finalised 27/4

Ok we need to work out the following:

Please I need your input here!!

Conditions of Entry:

I think I will need everyone to sign a document saying they understand the rsiks of windurfing and will not make any claims for damages against the organisers.

Rules:

No limit to number of members per team.
No limit to teams per state.
The competition is teams vs teams based.
To qualify for a team session at least two team members must have sailed that day and recorded results. Individual results will not be counted towards a team session.
Sessions will be defined as windsurfing sessions by team members on the same date, location can be diferent for different team members.
There will be 5 measurement categories. 2 sec peak; 5 x 10sec average; 1 hour; Alpha Racing; Nautical Mile.

Teams that don't supply a session score/time/result for a category in any month will be awarded the maximum points

Measurement Definitions:

Each session to be recorded, will be the average score of the team for each category.
Average being the sum total divided by number of team members participating on that day.

Measurement Method:

Sessions for the teams will be submitted by the team captain.
The Team Captain will collate team sessions and select the best team session for each month.
Session results will be supplied monthly.
These sessions will be collated each month on a spreadsheet, and a score awarded in each category from lowest to highest.
eg. if there are 15 teams in a given category that have submitted a time these will be awarded points according to rank ordering. from a 1 for best time/speed, to 15 for worst. This is done in each category, with the team having the lowest points for the month, being the leading team for the month.


Scoring/Results:
Results will be posted on the internet each month. (A month is enough of a period to give hopefully some suitable condions, and one session per category per month is a way of avoiding data overload)Winning team/s each month can have bragging rights for that month.
Verification of results, needs to be possible, therefore each team members session results needs to be available for scrutiny. (This may be requested at random, or all results need to be posted on GPSSS, and possibly a small donation made to GPSSS as a way of acknowledging the efforts of that website)
Monthly scores are summed (added) for the number of months the competition runs.
The team that has the lowest score in each category over the period on the challenge is proclaimed the winner and awarded the trophy. If only one trophy is to be awarded it goes to the team with the lowest aggregate score across all categories for the period of the challenge.

Duration of competition:

First results for the month of May need to be submitted to the Challenge Secreatry by the 31st of May. (This may not work as 31 May might be a great sailing day) or within 7 days.

The competition runs till 31/12/07.


This is just for starters, what are your ideas and I will fill it out as we go!

A spreadsheet might not be the best way to do this, if you get a good database set up with some decent PHP behind it, then everything can be done automatically, which means more chance of everything actually happening.

I'm happy to donate some web space and code up the database/PHP for this.

Nah mate, glad to give my company some exposure

Going to set some Deadlines here so we don't go on for ever.

Rules input by Friday 27 April 2007, then finalised.

Might need a rule for disputes, how are these normally handled?

Thinking of Starting the Registration Process by Sat 28th of April 2006. Do we have a deadline here, or allow teams to join later? Should we cut-off team registration by 31st of May 2007, so each teaM WILL have to have registered/submitted session results by that date to be in?

Need a rule for teams that don't supply a session score/time/result for a month and how we deal with this?

Because I will probably be the first one to moune this up, is it really a rule we need? (now don't all shoot me, just asking)If you don't post each month, no bother I would have thought. Just narrows the field down a tad for that time frame.

Mineral
PS only reason I am asking cos it was in red and I haven't yet worked the rest of the rules out. (Dyslexic prick)

daffy- you know you guys have a killer NM run in a NWer... we were robbed of the opportunity to test it proper when the front came over a few minutes early last year.

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Originally posted by slowboat

so Hardie, you might as well send all those trophy's to sailquik. All they need is one day of sailing each month- doesn't matter what wind direction, and the times should top the best outright for anywhere else in Oz. But, you never know... they might not get any wind (?!!!).

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I was wondering whether there should only be one trophy, given to the team with lowest points across every category, accumulated over 8 months of sessions, So it's a points system now not outright speed.

2 sec Max
5 x 10 sec
1 hour
NM
Alpha

One entry each month across all categories sothat will be 8 x 5 points categories, so that is 40 entries, and some months some people won't get a chance, or won't enter in a category which automatically gives them maximum points. So not so easy really, consistency across all caetgories.

Keep the trophies. Personal satisfaction is enough.
Not much wind here for the next few months normally.
Slowboat, you forget that when the snow is on the hills my windsurfing gear stays pretty dry. Too cold for an old bloke.That reminds me, gotta get a new wetsuit and some good booties...........

i was hoping to get sorted what can and can't be deleted in the tracks.

seems that by doing this lots of things can occur.

this will obviously affect max speeds, 1hr speeds etc.

it is very easy to tell what has been deleted cause the track times don't remain continuous?

any thoughts from the brains trust?

cheers

Every one should keep their raw files and provide if results are questionable. Also the team captain or nominated team member can validate the results with 2 programs. I always process my file with both Realspeed and GPSAR. If you get GPSAR set up correctly, I only ever have to delete several spikes, and I find the results between both programs to be very good.

Deleting readings from tracks in GPSAR should only ever result in lower averages because GPSAR is a time based system. I cannot see how anyone can artifically increase their speeds by removing any readings. And it is very difficult to add high readings :-).

I do agree that everyone should keep their tracks in an untouched format. I copy them, and delete spikes from the copy before analysis, ensuring I have the original should there be a query.

I dont see any issue with removing data in GPSAR, after all that is what RealSpeed does behind the scenes (ignores suspect data? Mal)

The rules already say that the files have to be available for scruitiny, so perhaps we just need an easy to follow manual on how to find/remove spikes in GPSAR.

JB

OK I need a technical decision from an adviser, I'll ask sailquik as he has lots of experience.

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Originally posted by elmo

The best bet regarding data management is to do the same as what the GPS Speedsurfing site requests.

You must always keep an unedited download(original) of your data, and have another file which you can edit, it means saving the file twice under 2 different names.

Each file should have the date in the name, this is how I have my naming format set up

AV 2007 05 16 Raw.GPX
AV 2007 05 16 Edit.GPX

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That sounds good to me. I Have asked sailquik to respond, if he can confirm this, then we will update rules. Ta guys!!!

cool sounds good.