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Another GPS question

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Created by Spocktek > 9 months ago, 21 Oct 2014
Spocktek
WA, 281 posts
21 Oct 2014 9:47PM
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If I strapped a GPS on my arm and went down a big hill on a skateboard would the speed be accurate?

decrepit
WA, 12765 posts
21 Oct 2014 10:01PM
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Spocktek said..
If I strapped a GPS on my arm and went down a big hill on a skateboard would the speed be accurate?


depends on the GPS and how accurate you want it.
If it's capable of recording doppler data and the antenna has a good view of the sky, then the analysis of that data should be accurate to about 1km/hr.
If it only records trackpoint data, that accuracy may be only accurate to about 5km/hr.
The display Max speed is normally doppler in most GPS units, so that's probably within the 1km/hr range. But if you want average speed, it depends how it's calculated.

Spocktek
WA, 281 posts
21 Oct 2014 10:13PM
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If the hill was say 45 degrees, would the unit read 1/5th slower? pythagorus???? Or does it know when you`re going down (or up) a hill.
On a GT31.

Spocktek
WA, 281 posts
21 Oct 2014 10:25PM
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I spose what I want to know is if the GPS uses altitude as well to give speed readings.

decrepit
WA, 12765 posts
21 Oct 2014 11:06PM
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Spocktek said..
I spose what I want to know is if the GPS uses altitude as well to give speed readings.


OK I see what you're getting at, apparently the GPS system isn't very accurate for altitude, and I think that would make the trackpoint method worse. However the doppler method may be unaffected, but I can't be sure about that, you'll have to wait and see if one of the real experts appear on this thread.

Herbylyn
QLD, 214 posts
23 Oct 2014 9:13AM
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No expert here, but I have compared car speed to GPS speed. If the car goes up or down a hill I can notice a variation of difference.

powersloshin
NSW, 1836 posts
23 Oct 2014 11:51AM
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Speed = Distance/Time, so if you know the length of your downhill run you don't really need a gps

Spocktek
WA, 281 posts
23 Oct 2014 10:06AM
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^^ Ya do if ya want ya max speed
So with the small amount of research I did, the conclusion is that GPS speed data is only accurate on a flat surface, which makes sense.
But on the GT 31 there is a 3D function???
One would assume that's a altitude meter?

Dean 424
NSW, 440 posts
23 Oct 2014 8:46PM
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Ok I don't know much about GT 31 etc but use other GPS systems at work but a bit rusty since a while since I studied them. Basically most cheaper GPS units have one receiver and work in 2D mode as you found out. The unit is normally set to a datum (height on earths surface) which is usually WGS 84 which models the earths surface as best as possible. Ships for example enter the height of their antenna in the setup mode but this is to gain better accuracy in 2D mode. Very accurate GPS units can easily measure altitude, heading etc and work in 3D but do it using 2 receivers. The receivers which need to be a good distance apart and compare positions with each other and quickly give a very accurate heading (or course) and rate of descent or ascent. A lot of smaller commercial vessels such as tugs, fishing boats etc use these GPS compasses instead of expensive Gyro compasses as they are cheaper, more accurate, with less running costs.



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