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Created by monster > 9 months ago, 6 Nov 2007
monster
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:21AM
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in my sails there is two holes in the clue which one are you suposed to use cheers bazz

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:26PM
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Top one, low wind,
bottom one high wind

monster
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:29AM
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so what does it do

Edge
WA, 136 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:37PM
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I heard the bottom hole allows the leach and head to spill gusts, while the top hole helps hold the shape up there for maximum area in lighter wings.

decrepit
WA, 12764 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:38PM
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I suspect B*&^% all, but I'm assured it does have an effect. The reasoning goes that the bottom hole allows the upper half of the sail to twist off more. But if you draw 2 lines to the tip, 1 from each hole, there doesn't seem to be much difference.

Try it and see, I've now got a sail with those 2 holes so first strong wind day, I'm going to try it.

monster
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:43AM
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thanks every body

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:44PM
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Mine has 3 holes. But I only enjoy using the middle one.
Id like to try the bottom hole but I cant seem to thread my rope through it.

Bender
WA, 2235 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:47PM
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3rd hole is for when its really wild or your in Germany

monster
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:50AM
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Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:15AM
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i use the bottom hole on bigger sails when it's blowing. it really opens the leach up and increases the twist and increases the wind range.

top hole all other times.

i am a fan!

surfinchick
251 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:01AM
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P.C_simpson
WA, 1490 posts
7 Nov 2007 8:39AM
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i'm a short ass so i use the bottom hole.

Mark _australia
WA, 23436 posts
7 Nov 2007 9:04AM
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Bender said...

3rd hole is for when its really wild or your in Germany




Not only Germany, I got to use it in France, but only once. I'd like to go back to France some day.

rooster
WA, 243 posts
7 Nov 2007 11:19AM
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I heard Greece was renouned for it

stribo
QLD, 1628 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:27PM
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Either hole is fine

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
7 Nov 2007 11:28AM
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I've always found the second hole from the back of the neck to be best......

.......... sorry should have read the whole thread I didnt realise we were talking about sails

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
7 Nov 2007 2:03PM
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We are... not too sure what your talking about Grumps?

Susie
SA, 837 posts
7 Nov 2007 3:36PM
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mineral1 said...

Top one, low wind,
bottom one high wind


Every time I rig my sails I have wondered about that! Not being very good at technical issues. FINALLY I have the answer. Thanks guys

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:31PM
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decrepit said...

I suspect B*&^% all, but I'm assured it does have an effect. The reasoning goes that the bottom hole allows the upper half of the sail to twist off more. But if you draw 2 lines to the tip, 1 from each hole, there doesn't seem to be much difference.

Try it and see, I've now got a sail with those 2 holes so first strong wind day, I'm going to try it.

I agree with decrepit. In theory the lower hole should allow for a looser leach but I think only if the sheeting angle is changed as in the headsail on a sailboat (equivalent to moving the cars aft). With a windsurfer boom the sheeting angle will pull the leach tighter on the lower hole cf the upper hole so that you would use the lower for light wind setting. But you can make a bigger change to sheeting angle by adjusting boom height. I always just use the upper hole and use downhaul and outhaul for tuning.

bubs
SA, 924 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:11PM
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P.C_simpson said...

i'm a short ass so i use the bottom hole.


Same here i always use bottom hole when it's there because my booms usually lower and it looks wierd in the top hole.

Bubs

choco
SA, 4175 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:43PM
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www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6878


monster
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 5:27PM
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and who said seabreeze was boring

stribo
QLD, 1628 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:33PM
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monster said...

and who said seabreeze was boring


Jesus

FilthyAmatuer
WA, 877 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:24PM
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Higher boom = top hole
Lower boom = bottom hole

or maybe

tall people = top hole
etc

who knows

Leech
WA, 1933 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:50PM
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Put the outhaul through both and enjoy the best of both worlds

Pugwash
WA, 7719 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:50PM
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oi

WHAT HAPPENED. This was a topic about witch hole AND NOW

Troppo
WA, 887 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:54PM
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Leech said...

Put the outhaul through both and enjoy the best of both worlds


i tried that once it worked well for a while, depends on the model though..

Arlo
SA, 139 posts
7 Nov 2007 6:44PM
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FilthyAmatuer said...

Higher boom = top hole
Lower boom = bottom hole

or maybe

tall people = top hole
etc

who knows


Well I thought it was purely based on the height of the boom as well; gonna have to try the high wind, low wind theory next time!!!!!!!!!!

choco
SA, 4175 posts
7 Nov 2007 6:47PM
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Lower hole in stronger winds,top hole for marginal conditions,look at the Neil Pryde RS6/RS rigging and tuning video it;s explained there.

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
7 Nov 2007 6:20PM
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had this disscussion with mk. surprisingly he disagreed with me.
[}:)]

i always used the top hole thinking it was a height thing. when i bought a new sail the instructions said the different holes were for leach tuning. maybe not the case for all sails but talking to one of the shop guys he had seen good results when using it for tuning.

i tied it and it made a definate difference.

back on track now.....

lucky my sails use high grade stainless. i'd hate to get rust stains around the hole! [}:)]

surfinchick
251 posts
7 Nov 2007 5:29PM
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I'm quite tall, but I have never found boom height to be a problem when my sail is lying horizontal.

Also, my 5.4 sail only has one hole, I'm wondering whether I need to upgrade to a different model and experiment with the high/low wind aspect, but I'm just a beginner.



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