Looking at my next full carbon wave boom...
X9 - too expensive.
Enigma - awesome but also a little rich for my tastes.
But then I find the 'two eleven' boom that the goya and quatro team riders use. Less than $900!
Fittings seem identical to Chinook so it looks solid.
Anyone got any feedback or experience with these booms?
Cheers,
Hi Shadow,
I would definitely not buy any X9 or other NP boom. I don't know anything about the Enigma.
I have a 2014 Streamlined True Performance full carbon Josh Angulo boom (140 cm to 190 cm) which is excellent and it is super strong, stiff and light. I compared it to the Chinook when I bought it and I decided it was better and it certainly is lighter. After using it a few times I am very impressed with it.
I have the seen the 211 boom and while it looks great and is a little cheaper than the Streamlined I am not sure if it is as good.It does not have a published weight and I suspect it is heavier.
I certainly would make the choice between either the Streamlined, Chinook or the 211. On price I don't think the 211 can be beaten unless you can get a comparable boom somewhere else for that price.
Best Wishes and Regards, Richard
I also considered them.
I know nothing about them BUT after a recent experience with Goya their warranty is top notch unlike the others who duck for cover and say no waves no shore break oooh umm it is 1.3 hrs over th 12mths......
So I'd say yes.
Then again Enigma is rated so highly and aussie and only $100 more.....
Nice looking boom. To be honest it looks exactly the same as the Gaastra - like exactly. Would be very surprised if it wasn't and considering they are the same price.
If this is the case, I can confirm that its an awesome boom. Strong, stiff.....well built.
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Looking at my next full carbon wave boom...
X9 - too expensive.
Enigma - awesome but also a little rich for my tastes.
But then I find the 'two eleven' boom that the goya and quatro team riders use. Less than $900!
Fittings seem identical to Chinook so it looks solid.
Anyone got any feedback or experience with these booms?
Cheers,
Hi Shadow. I brought one two months ago. Today was the very first run.
I'm going to be completely honest here. I could not tell the difference between my previous monocoque aluminium booms (Aeron Monocoque 140-180, Simmer monocoque 140-180) and this boom, despite everybody raving on how good they make the sail feel. I am not able to detect any weight different when holding them between this boom and my Simmer monocoque. However, it's a really nice boom. I don't regret buying it, and now I don't have to worry about managing the welding issue with the two pieces reacting to salt water.
The Maui Sails rubber shim I use (SDM to RDM adaptor) is difficult to fix into the clamp. I had to orient it in order to fit it. I will try the RDM adaptor provided next session (as I left it at home today).
There is also no harness line markers on the boom, which is really annoying.
Other than that, an excellent boom :)
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Nice looking boom. To be honest it looks exactly the same as the Gaastra - like exactly. Would be very surprised if it wasn't and considering they are the same price.
If this is the case, I can confirm that its an awesome boom. Strong, stiff.....well built.
Gaastra have their own boom. The 211 is what few a people will recognize as the old Aeron/Redline carbon (Simmer/Naish and a few others too).. This is a vacuum infusion 26mm.
Gaastra, North and Severne are all top quality prepreg, which is what they build masts, fishing rods and $3,000 bike frames out of. Resin infusion V Pre-preg is kinda like Bronze V Iron..
They're all close to a $1000 bucks, none of them are cheap. You've already decided to go a few magnitudes more than an Ally, and once you go on a carbon fiber binge, it's hard to stop half way!!
*I'm Biased
^^ breakage rates on the arms of prepreg vs normal?
Doubt there is any difference. If the cloth has the right amount of resin in it, it will be the same strength.
The plastic bits - different story. Why oh farken WHY does the rope not go all the way around, rather it relies on the strength of a 3mm thick moulded plastic hinge...? An $1100 boom has the same crap plastic bit as the $300 ally one.
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I also considered them.
I know nothing about them BUT after a recent experience with Goya their warranty is top notch unlike the others who duck for cover and say no waves no shore break oooh umm it is 1.3 hrs over th 12mths......
So I'd say yes.
Then again Enigma is rated so highly and aussie and only $100 more.....
What's aussie about the enigmas??
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^^ breakage rates on the arms of prepreg vs normal?
Doubt there is any difference. If the cloth has the right amount of resin in it, it will be the same strength.
The plastic bits - different story. Why oh farken WHY does the rope not go all the way around, rather it relies on the strength of a 3mm thick moulded plastic hinge...? An $1100 boom has the same crap plastic bit as the $300 ally one.Select to expand quotebarn said..K Dog said..
Nice looking boom. To be honest it looks exactly the same as the Gaastra - like exactly. Would be very surprised if it wasn't and considering they are the same price.
If this is the case, I can confirm that its an awesome boom. Strong, stiff.....well built.
Gaastra have their own boom. The 211 is what few a people will recognize as the old Aeron/Redline carbon (Simmer/Naish and a few others too).. This is a vacuum infusion 26mm.
Gaastra, North and Severne are all top quality prepreg, which is what they build masts, fishing rods and $3,000 bike frames out of. Resin infusion V Pre-preg is kinda like Bronze V Iron..
They're all close to a $1000 bucks, none of them are cheap. You've already decided to go a few magnitudes more than an Ally, and once you go on a carbon fiber binge, it's hard to stop half way!!
*I'm Biased
The 211's are advertised as being pre-preg, what that makes you think it is infusion?
I have the enigma severne.
My favourite piece of kit. The sail has a noticeable lighter more responsive feel than my old aluminium boom. And I LOVE the reduced diameter. Much better for my piss weak grip.
I recently sailed Maui for a week on a NP x6. Was disappointed with it.
Last year I sailed a chinook carbon. Nothing wrong with it. But prefer my severne.
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[Quote]The 211's are advertised as being pre-preg, what that makes you think it is infusion?
No reason to dispute that, I didn't see anything on their site - happy to be corrected.
The reason I thought it was infusion is because it looks like the old aeron boom. It's got all the aeron parts (with slight 211 branding) and the tail piece has the same carbon weave as my old infusion Redline. Chances are it's out of the same mould as the old ones, just with updated materials ( tail piece?)
It's not a bad boom, just not the same as the GA, North and SV.
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Hi Shadow,
I would definitely not buy any X9 or other NP boom. I don't know anything about the Enigma.
I've had an X9 wave boom for over 8 seasons and its been pounded, bounced, thrown, pulled, dropped and generally thrashed continually over that time... and that's just by the bag snatchers at airports.
It's done at least 5 overseas trips and a multitude of runs from NSW to WA (and at least 2 to SA)
It has rarely been washed with a hose, but regularly washed over the falls and the rocks with a 95 kg kook holding onto it.
I'll get to test a Severne Enigma in a couple of weeks so can't comment on it till then, but am pretty stoked with 8 years of service out of ANY boom
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Yuppy said..
I have the enigma severne.
I recently sailed Maui for a week on a NP x6. Was disappointed with it.
Last year I sailed a chinook carbon. Nothing wrong with it. But prefer my severne.
Hey Yuppy not sure if you are aware but the X6 is not a full carbon boom (only the tail piece is carbon) so it's not an apples for apples comparison against the enigma or chinook 100% carbon booms.
For the record I've used the X6 a few times and I'm not a fan by any means (or a fan of any ally boom) You would have to be crazy to go any ally boom over a carbon in my opinion.
211 Carbon Booms are excellent and only priced below a grand as we are the distributor and sell direct ... You won't be dissapointed excellent weight stiffness diameter and solid mast clamp... If it's good enough for Bawzino, Levi, Bernd etc I think you are safe.
New Booms arriving in a few weeks so get in touch ;)
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Hi Core, what is the weight of the 211 140-190 cm ? Cheers Richard
I was just in the shop and weighed it - 2.15kg.
I also checked out the Streamlined carbon boom and that is a very nice piece of kit. The billet aluminium boom clamp is a work of art in itself. Weighs in at around 1.9kg total.
In the end I bought on the Severne Enigma, and the shop kindly took a trade on an old north mast and my X6 boom which lessened the pain a bit!
The only small downside of the Severne boom with my NP mast and sails is that I will have to flip the rig to clamp it on, but I think I can live with that.
Hi Shadow, I saw the Severne Enigma on Sunday at the Safety Bay Expo.
It looks great and like a lot of the Severne stuff looks like it could be in the Scuderia Ferrari or the Alfa Corse racing team.
Do you have any idea what the Severne Enigma weighs ?
I traded in a board when I got the Streamlined boom. Unfortunately top of the line, carbon booms cost a lot now but I don't know if they depreciate as much as a new board does on the day you walk out of the shop.
Cheers.
