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to pad or what?

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Created by jp747 > 9 months ago, 15 Apr 2008
jp747
1553 posts
15 Apr 2008 7:29PM
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i've got this old 266 mistral flow and happen to finally crack 3cms. the middle part between the back and front footstraps i guess due to all that gybing..finally it was fixed and loved using the board only to find out the gel coat is really slippery even with booties on...question is do i pad it with slice material(used in making thongs or flipflops) or sandpaper or other weird stuff i heard like grounded flourescent bulbs or sugar

jord070
WA, 1109 posts
15 Apr 2008 7:32PM
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you could just use surfboard wax, that would help alot, and a lot easier and cheaper than the other options

jp747
1553 posts
15 Apr 2008 7:37PM
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jord070 said...

you could just use surfboard wax, that would help alot, and a lot easier and cheaper than the other options


hey jordy in our part of the country no surfing here only topside i guess i can order board wax but i need something i don't need to do extra if you know what i mean unless wax sticks around for long...

elmo
WA, 8868 posts
15 Apr 2008 7:49PM
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I used a cut down surfboard Heal pad on my flow

jp747
1553 posts
15 Apr 2008 8:02PM
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had to google Heal pads indeed they are slice materials..you stick them down with just plain rubber cement?

Lfish
402 posts
15 Apr 2008 8:35PM
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hey JP.......sent you a msg.........comming to phils thurs can bring some material..but then i have to get it to your island..lets know if i can help

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
15 Apr 2008 10:54PM
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I'm sure a read a thread on here once about re-decking boards, do a search and you might come up with something.

You could always wear booties, but I would go some sort of re-deck option. Not that hard to do, just need to get your hands on the materials.

decrepit
WA, 12764 posts
15 Apr 2008 9:35PM
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jp747 said...

>>>>>.do i pad it with slice material(used in making thongs or flipflops) or sandpaper or other weird stuff i heard like grounded flourescent bulbs or sugar


Ground light bulbs??????? Yuk!

I use castor sugar ( It's the 2nd finest sugar, you can get, 1 up from icing sugar, my wife says it's used in cooking), on my boards, works fine. The trick is getting the right thickness of resin on first.

Too thin and the sugar doesn't stick too thick and you have to add too much sugar.

Brush it on with long even strokes, you should just feel a little drag on the brush, resin thickness about half that of sugar grain.
Sprinkle sugar on until it stops going transparent, I use an old Milo tin with holes punched in the lid.

When the resin is fully cured brush excess sugar off and wash.

Surfboard quality resin will give the best results, but if you're not worried about it going brown, anything else will do.

I'm now putting the sugar on the final coat of 2 pack urethane paint.

jp747
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15 Apr 2008 10:07PM
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just emailed you lfish gimme a call if you hit this part of the worldam opting for slice material however as i went out the door i saw i had roughly half a pint of r10/60 rigid resin and since decrep mentioned castor sugar might as well try...this island being a sugar plantation island first time i've heard of castorif i went to the grocery tomorrow for sure the attendants would look me blank in the eyei called up a skimboarder here and asked her where she got here pads and says it came with board and branded dk which could only mean one thing dakine and sure is expensivenot to worry i have another inexpensive place that makes made to order sandals or flipflops of any color and creation you can think of, am sure they can sell 1X1 ft. of this stuff..

decrepit
WA, 12764 posts
15 Apr 2008 10:17PM
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ordinary table salt is about the same size grain, haven't used it myself, but other people have.

jp747
1553 posts
15 Apr 2008 10:38PM
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decrepit said...

ordinary table salt is about the same size grain, haven't used it myself, but other people have.


more like it then

Wet Willy
TAS, 2317 posts
17 Apr 2008 4:36PM
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Araldite. Sand. Problem solved. Ignore the hecklers.

slowboat
WA, 560 posts
17 Apr 2008 4:33PM
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salt can react with the epoxy. I used it once. Grips well but the epoxy went yellow within a day or two of it curing. Could have been something else, but the same resin didnt go yellow using sugar. Probably depends on the resin... Normal sugar is fine too. Just a bit rougher.

Yeah some grip is made from ground up recycled glass. So should be pretty similar to sand. But the ground glass is probably more grippy.

Problem with salt and sugar is that the gripping bit is the resin (the sugar and salt dissolve, leaving small sharp edges on the resin). So its nowhere near as tough or hard wearing as glass-based grip where the particles stay bonded.

P.C_simpson
WA, 1491 posts
18 Apr 2008 7:13PM
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Mystic do a spray on deck grip, it comes in an arosol can, or they have a kit that uses a roller, you can get it from board crazy online store. you just sand the deck back and apply the grip, think it dries clear..

jp747
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18 Apr 2008 7:25PM
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slowboat said...

salt can react with the epoxy. I used it once. Grips well but the epoxy went yellow within a day or two of it curing. Could have been something else, but the same resin didnt go yellow using sugar. Probably depends on the resin... Normal sugar is fine too. Just a bit rougher.

Yeah some grip is made from ground up recycled glass. So should be pretty similar to sand. But the ground glass is probably more grippy.

Problem with salt and sugar is that the gripping bit is the resin (the sugar and salt dissolve, leaving small sharp edges on the resin). So its nowhere near as tough or hard wearing as glass-based grip where the particles stay bonded.


so slowie the guy who told me regarding fine grounded flourescent bulbs is true then
i was about to try sandpaper 150 grit with rubber glue just for a quick fix this p.m. but cut short due to errands...wet willy sorry first time i've heard of araldite sandbut if you explain to the 3rd worlders maybe it would make sense

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
18 Apr 2008 9:33PM
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im led to believe with castor sugar after applied and cured an washed, the water dissolves the sugar and leaves resin crevices tell me if im wrong

decrepit
WA, 12764 posts
18 Apr 2008 8:45PM
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Well that's the generally accepted theory, but I'm not sure. I suspect the resin actually soaks into the sugar, sort of fossilising it.
I'll have a look at my sugar decked boards with a good magnifying glass and see.



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