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Created by BrowneToby > 9 months ago, 4 May 2011
BrowneToby
NSW, 18 posts
4 May 2011 9:35PM
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Hi,
I'm forty and have had my first serious sail in probably 15 years recently while travelling in Vietnam with my wife and kids. I was so stoked that I could still waterstart and sailed for all of an hour two days running in around 20 knot winds.
As a younger man I was really keen and still own a slalom board (Long reef Express) from about 1990. It's a great board, really fast with carbon fibre in the glassing. 20 years old and still in great condition. It needs a new fin though.

I'm keen to buy one or more new sails and I reckon I'll get a 5.6 to 5.9 and a 5m2. I have this old Kilwell Matrix - 2 (2-piece) mast. I was looking at either a KA Koyote or something along those lines. Can anyone tell me whether this mast is likely to be suitable?
Thanks,
R. Naish

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
4 May 2011 9:47PM
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Robbie,

You are a windsurfing legend.....

any mast will work for you and you will sail better than any of us.

You sail a plank.

You sail a door.

You use a hankerchief.

Your mast is a cheese stick.

It doesn't matter.

You are the greatest.




sailpilot
QLD, 785 posts
4 May 2011 9:49PM
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Welcome back toby (alias RN). The Koyotes like a constant curve to slightly flex-top bend curve so have a look at the mast and see if there's any indication of curve. There's a table of masts I've seen on here before, someone else may have the link for you or do a search through seabreeze.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
4 May 2011 8:07PM
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That link to a load of mast measurements:
www.peterman.dk/masts-all-imcs01.htm

The kilwell isn't on the list unfortunately.

I'd pick up a secondhand mast and sail combo (same brand) which shouldn't cost the earth.

Gwendy
SA, 472 posts
4 May 2011 10:06PM
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Dont much around kobbleing together bits and pieces to get an old setup going. Modern gear is just so much nicer. I dont mind driving old cars, wearing old clothes and puting up with crappy furniture just as long as I got the best watersport equipment

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
5 May 2011 8:33AM
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Gwendy said...

Dont much around kobbleing together bits and pieces to get an old setup going. Modern gear is just so much nicer. I dont mind driving old cars, wearing old clothes and puting up with crappy furniture just as long as I got the best watersport equipment


I agree with this. While you have a large sentimental attachment to your old board, you'll love yourself for updating it. I still have a couple of boards from 1996-7 that I use, so I get where you are coming from. New stuff is very good.

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
5 May 2011 11:31AM
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Welcome back Sir Robbie.

I'd keep the old board for a bit - it'll still sail ok. New sails work better with new boards, but that board should still get you out there and getting wet.

That's not to say that a new board won't be easier to sail though.

However, if you're going to be getting newish / second-hand sails I would definitely be looking to get a new mast and a new boom.

You can pick up new Gun 430 masts 30% carbon for $240 I think, and as for the boom I don't think you could go past a Prolimit for approx $250 - they're cheap and as far as I'm concerned they're brilliant.

A decent boom and mast on your decent sails will make a world of difference.

Big Al
WA, 265 posts
5 May 2011 2:05PM
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Wow Neb - never seen a more complicated chart than that one...thankyou for that. Here's a link that gauges mast brands to their curve characteristics in a nice colour chart (for plebs like me). www.unifiber.net/masts-selector
I agree with the others and not attempt to match an old mast with a new sail. I'd be investing in a new mast (over a new sail) that matches the sail/sails u decide on.

AB....

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
5 May 2011 2:23PM
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Nice find there Big Al

Note that the info on there for Gaastra is wrong for post-2007 masts though, they changed to constant curve masts.

flipper4444
VIC, 1214 posts
5 May 2011 4:28PM
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i love you robby naish your so cute you have man booobs

Gwendy
SA, 472 posts
5 May 2011 8:13PM
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thats Gay

BrowneToby
NSW, 18 posts
5 May 2011 8:45PM
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Thanks everyone,
good advice. Not sure about the man boobs thing, but I spose it's true.

Mr Naish

da vecta
QLD, 2515 posts
6 May 2011 10:57AM
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Welcome Dude

I wish you would change your avatar name though.

Please don't use Robbie's name in vain, especially on a WS forum.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
6 May 2011 12:19PM
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da vecta said...

Welcome Dude

I wish you would change your avatar name though.

Please don't use Robbie's name in vain, especially on a WS forum.



Agreed. It just causes confusion as per my post above after consuming a few glasses of red wine.

Imagine if the real Robbie came here and found his name was taken. Perhaps he already is here under a pseudonym



ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
6 May 2011 3:08PM
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Yep, Nobby Raish



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