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help with buying a windsurfer as a gift

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Created by chrissycat > 9 months ago, 2 Nov 2011
chrissycat
9 posts
2 Nov 2011 1:34PM
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Hello! I am not a windsurfer but my husband used to be. He is a tall reasonably fit guy with windsurfing and sailing experience--but he hasn't had any windsurfing gear for quite some time. I suspect he would like a board to play around with and maybe challenge himself a bit, but it would be nice to start with something that he could use in a variety of conditions. He is 6ft3in and about 65(?)lbs (190.5cm/75kg). I am hoping to find something in good, used condition.

Can anyone tell me what kind of board and/or sail I should be looking for? Most of the stuff I have found on the internet is directed at either beginners or total experts (I don't want a beginner board and I am too much of a novice myself to understand the stuff aimed at experts!).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
2 Nov 2011 4:53PM
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Best bet would be to at least go into a windsurfing shop if possible. They will give you the best advice on what you (or husband) needs. They will most likely want to know what level he is at but will be able to give you a clear idea on what to look for. Beware - there's a lot of crap/unsuitable gear for sale out on the internet, and also a lot of good deals to be found, but you have to know what you want and know the sport.

tobyhodgso
WA, 300 posts
2 Nov 2011 1:57PM
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Hi Chrissy, great idea. IMHO get a voucher for some lessons, cheaper.

He can see where he's at and if it still agrees with him.

(Beware it might lead to ignoring his chores and holidays Windsurfing in Hawaii!)

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8224 posts
2 Nov 2011 8:13PM
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tobyhodgso said...

Hi Chrissy, great idea. IMHO get a voucher for some lessons, cheaper.

He can see where he's at and if it still agrees with him.

(Beware it might lead to ignoring his chores and holidays Windsurfing in Hawaii!)


Sounds like you sail..That will make life easier..

chrissycat
9 posts
2 Nov 2011 5:42PM
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Thanks for the advice so far!

The problem with the shop idea is that there are none to be found where I am at the moment. Plus I tried that last year and the guy said to me 'Windsurfing? No one does that anymore'. (!!?!) Obviously he wasn't much of a help.

The voucher thing is a good idea but you are right sboardcrazy--I do sail! We live on a sailboat and are moving around. I had to make my own voucher for him to go kite surfing because I didn't know where we were going to be, but he still hasn't taken me up on it.

What I'd really like to know is a ballpark board size for an intermediate to advanced kind of guy who is about 165lbs. And maybe a sail size for medium wind (does 10 to 15 kts sound right?). Something like that. It doesn't have to be high performance but I don't want a brick. Maybe it's pure folly, but if I don't get it for him I don't think he will spend the money on it himself. And I KNOW he will use it!

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
2 Nov 2011 9:05PM
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Something like a modern free ride board of around 120 to 140 liters would be the go along with a free ride sail of around 6.5m with the appropriate mast and boom.

This sort of combo should get him going in moderate to fresh winds.

chrissycat
9 posts
3 Nov 2011 5:57AM
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Thank you mobydisc! That's just what I was looking for

tobyhodgso
WA, 300 posts
3 Nov 2011 6:41AM
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Mobydisc said...

Something like a modern free ride board of around 120 to 140 liters would be the go along with a free ride sail of around 6.5m with the appropriate mast and boom.

This sort of combo should get him going in moderate to fresh winds.


agreed

Ellobuddha
NSW, 625 posts
3 Nov 2011 10:15AM
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I agree with something in the 110 to 130 litre range (if hes only 75kg) that will have plenty of float and perform well for him from 12 to 25 knots depending on sail sizes.

The best all round boards which I think you are looking for are called FREERIDE boards. There are plenty around. Some good boards to look for are listed below by brand name then model;

JP - Xcite ride
Tabou - Rocket
Starboard - Futura
Fanatic - Ray

The reality is that newer boards are easier to ride (shape etc) so if you have the $$ invest in something less than 5 years old. Same with sails.

Dont forget he will need a mast and boom which will have to be the right size to fit the sail as they are different. He will also need a uni joint and mast base to connect to board and a harness and harness lines.

I would suggest that it probably be best to wait until you are somewhere where there is a sailboard shop as it can get quite confusing if you dont know what you are looking for - or at least approach some sailors for a chat about gear so they can show you what you need. All sailboarders are friendly - its mandatory.

Where are you presently. Someone on here may be close by and able to assist?

Corkers
NSW, 154 posts
3 Nov 2011 10:25AM
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Yep, Moby s on the money, 120, 130 140L freeride board would be good. 6.5 m freeride sail (with no cams)...probably in the future would want a sail above and below this size (maybe a 7.5 and 5m). Modern gear is really good so try and get something thats no older than about 4 years old

good luck

chrissycat
9 posts
3 Nov 2011 7:42AM
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Thanks for the info Ellobuddha! Windsurfers really are friendly I'm in Bowen QLD. I'm likely to be in Cairns in a month or so. I'm hoping to pick something up before Christmas so I'm beginning to worry about the time frame for finding the right (affordable!) gear.

I just had a quick look at Cairns and there's a watersports store there. I'm going to give them a call right now. At least I have more of an idea now of what I should be looking for.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
3 Nov 2011 10:52AM
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He will be the happiest bloke in Australia if he wakes up with a flash board and rig waiting for him

chrissycat
9 posts
3 Nov 2011 8:33AM
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I hope so Mobydisc! I'm so glad I came to this forum because otherwise I probably wouldn't have gone through with it. If I do, I'll be sure to put all of your names on the card--LOL!

I just called the guy at the watersports store. He has stuff and he was really helpful. He's sending me some pics etc. of a new complete rig that you can buy different sails for without changing the rest of the rig (from Serverne sails--new starting at about $1100)--they sound great but I really was trying to find something used. He recommended 111 to 122 litre boards--I think free ride because this is what I asked about. The only thing is, even though he was very nice, it's hard to trust someone that's trying to sell me something.

What do you think a good maximum price would be for a used, totally set up board, etc. of the type you have all described? How about new? I realize it's complicated--but you know--roughly speaking.

Corkers
NSW, 154 posts
3 Nov 2011 12:36PM
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I would think about $2000, maybe a touch more should get you good a quality used set up (board ,1 sail, and neccesary bits)

chrissycat
9 posts
3 Nov 2011 9:37AM
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Sorry--'maximum' price for a new board, etc is a dumb question.

chrissycat
9 posts
3 Nov 2011 9:38AM
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Thanks Corkers!

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8224 posts
3 Nov 2011 4:04PM
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Mobydisc said...

There are some good prices on "last years models" around.

http://www.thewindsurfingshed.com.au/index.php/Products/Exocet/2011-Range/Free-Ride/Sting




That particular model being a slalom orientated one wouldn't be the way to go..my 2 cents is stick with a freeride they are more user friendly..although Moby was prob only using it as a price example.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
3 Nov 2011 4:21PM
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sboardcrazy said...

Mobydisc said...

There are some good prices on "last years models" around.

http://www.thewindsurfingshed.com.au/index.php/Products/Exocet/2011-Range/Free-Ride/Sting




That particular model being a slalom orientated one wouldn't be the way to go..my 2 cents is stick with a freeride they are more user friendly..although Moby was prob only using it as a price example.



A review summary of this board writes it up as being fairly easy going and more of a freeride board than anything else

boardtests.com/2010/12/exocet-sting-124-test-2010/

DAM71
QLD, 498 posts
3 Nov 2011 3:51PM
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Chrissycat


Give Boardcrazy in brisbane a call 07 38916470.

Simon is really helpful and knows his stuff. He regularly freights gear to people up north, and has a lot of good close out boards and rigs. That is brand new gear (old stock) that would suit what your after and is cheaper than new and better than 2nd hand.

Bristol
ACT, 347 posts
3 Nov 2011 6:05PM
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Agree 100% with the above advice re a "freeride" board ~~ 130 litres. I don't think you should go smaller than that.

Suggest that you also get a board bag to suit. The skin of modern boards is somewhat prone to dinging, vs. the skin of older "plastic" ones that your husband probably used. Further, modern boards are sometimes made to different degrees of toughness. Avoid a so-called "pro" version if you can; whilst such a board might be super-light, it needs delicate handling.

If you can get a nose protection system for the board, that would be a good idea (in my opinion). Beginners are prone to being catapulted by gusts, and the usual outcome of that is to damage the nose.

Mistral Nick
QLD, 370 posts
3 Nov 2011 6:59PM
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Hi,
I agree with most of the comments but I would say you can pick up some pretty good second hand gear providing you have some advice. Even from a personal perspective (although my board would be a bit small) you could pick up a mint Mistral couple of years old or similar for say $500-600 and a complete rig for a modest amount. I guess though in your situation probably better to deal with a retail outlet.
Hmm sailing the coast , I'm a bit envious.

Corkers
NSW, 154 posts
3 Nov 2011 9:16PM
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Mobydisc said...

sboardcrazy said...

Mobydisc said...

There are some good prices on "last years models" around.

http://www.thewindsurfingshed.com.au/index.php/Products/Exocet/2011-Range/Free-Ride/Sting




That particular model being a slalom orientated one wouldn't be the way to go..my 2 cents is stick with a freeride they are more user friendly..although Moby was prob only using it as a price example.



A review summary of this board writes it up as being fairly easy going and more of a freeride board than anything else

boardtests.com/2010/12/exocet-sting-124-test-2010/




/definately more a freeride than slalom

chrissycat
9 posts
3 Nov 2011 7:57PM
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Mistral Nick--I think you're right. I may need to stick to the shops because I don't know what's what The Freeride Sting actually looks pretty good. I asked the seller if he thought it was more of a slalom or a free ride and he said a free ride. He can get it to me in Cairns for cheaper than my Cairns guy can sell me the used/near new boards he has--maybe the Cairns guy's boards are better (I don't know), but this one seems close enough to what you all seem to think would be good. Anyway, I'm still looking, but this one seems promising.

I am going to call the Brisbane shop tomorrow (thanks Dan71) and see what else I might be able to find out.

BTW--a lot of guys are a little envious of the lifestyle. Give it a go ;-)

Toody
QLD, 74 posts
4 Nov 2011 12:04PM
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Chrissycat

I'm based out at Green Island just off Cairns
we have a fleet of windsurfing gear available for hire and some good secondhand gear for sale.
I'd be more than happy to help

toody@marinelandgreenisland.com
Mob 0400634809

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
4 Nov 2011 1:57PM
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chrissycat said...

Mistral Nick--I think you're right. I may need to stick to the shops because I don't know what's what The Freeride Sting actually looks pretty good. I asked the seller if he thought it was more of a slalom or a free ride and he said a free ride.


I got the Sting DT from the Windsurfing Shed in NSW... highly rate the board! And very cheap for a new board :P



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