ford or holden

holden!

holden !!!!!!

izaak,

use the thumbs too.

i'm holden but i can't vote on my own posts.

How many years has this competition been going on, and they still haven't got a winner?

Skoda



...too good to saw in half really!!

I missed the start, what happened?

Only referance I heard was Murphy blowing a gasket about Craig L belting his car at the start, or was it then he was was complaing about?

Oh well, you can thumb down my thoughts but that does not mean I am wrong. Both Ford and GM are in huge difficulties in America. They will have to both do something drastic to survive. First thing is to stop wasting money on racing cars that are increasingly unpopular and start spending money on developing vehicles people want to buy.

Why I am annoyed about this? Because the NSW government spends huge amounts of money on this car racing, both at Bathurst and now in Sydney, while it can't find money to pay police or teachers a decent wage or have a first class public health system.

^ Yes! When there where entire categories of cars, and if someone crashed everyone just drove around it until the truck came and picked it up.

don't take it personally moby,

funny stuff reading the supercar website, they claim it is the fastest growing sport in australia.

i thought the fastest growing sports were windsurfing, then soccer, then roller derby.

yes moby, nsw politics is in the ****! 1 billion i believe. but that's not V8's fault. bathurst in my humble opinion is the greatest race ever held. best circuit too!


anyways, while we are thinking of the past. bring back lakeside!

someone ran in to the safety car today in pit lane I can't remember who it was but still pretty funny

(Edit) It was James Courtney that hit the safety car

Hey Moby , Commodore is still no1 seller in the country so obviously some people still want one even if you don't.

Sorry for the anti Commodore and Falcon bash. When I meant no one, I know people still buy them. However fewer individuals buy them. Even fleets are getting alternatives. I used to work for the government and had two Falcons then one Commodore and I liked them. Back then petrol was about 60 to 80 cents a litre. Now its roughly double that and it doesn't look like petrol will ever go back under a dollar a litre.

However I stand by my view that these cars will soon become obsolete. Neither Ford nor Holden should rely upon them if they want to keep building cars in Australia. At least Ford recognises this and will soon be putting together the Focus in Australia. Its a pity Mitsubishi Australia didn't push for the Lancer to be made here instead of getting lumbered with the 380. Maybe Holden should push for the Volt to be made out here.

What really annoys me is a state government that says it hasn't got any money, but can find $40 million to host a car race around the Olympic stadium.


In regards to the racing, I do think its boring watching two cars that are very similar to each other and have nothing in common to a car you can buy. I remember when lots of different sorts of cars raced, like Bluebirds, Cameros, Jaguars, Suzuki Swifts, Falcons and Commodores. It was great. Mount Panorama is a great track. All they need are great cars racing it.

What annoys me though is a government that says it has no money but gets it arm twisted to fork out $40 million for a car race around the Olympic stadium.

I dont understand why people have loyalty to a brand of car.[}:)]

By that rational you must find the racing in the PWA very boring to watch also. Lets face it, most of the gear those guys are using is very similar regardless of brand, and most of the boards and some sails are prototypes which you and I can't buy.

But many of the most competitive, interesting to watch forms of racing of any kind are on single spec craft/vehicles. NASCAR has for many years been very closely monitored to ensure the cars meet spec, many forms of sailing follow the same sort of rules. And I have a mate that races in the V8 Ute series in which many of the top finishers in each race from that category are on a dyno after the race to ensure they haven't exceeded the allowed power output of the cars.

Ok, so I will put my hand up to being a passionate rev head. Motor racing is up there with windsurfing for me, I have in the past been involved in a few different forms of racing and if the budget would permit I would be more involved right now. Unfortunately the cost involved in motor sport makes windsurfing look like a little kids past time.

Yesterdays result, even though I bleed Holden red, was a good one. After having met Lowndes a few times I can say he is a top guy, still a bogan at heart. It's a shame that one team can put two drivers that are so high up in the championship together. With the form of these two and the way 888 are going I don't think anyone else really had much of a chance.

Ok, so back to the windsurfing now...pray for wind!!!

I thought the PWA racers now had to use production equipment. Can't say I make it a habit to watch their races though, more of a doer than a watcher. I dunno but probably for $50K or less you could have the gear required to compete at the highest level.

In regards to winds, I went windsurfing when the big race was on. It was a beautiful Sydney day with a bit of a seabreeze.

Pittsy, you have to remember that Holden is as Australian as Yankee Doodle Dandy. 100% American owned. I too hate the way Americanisms flow into Australian language with the SUV term being one of the latest and most stupid.