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Created by doggerbank > 9 months ago, 17 Feb 2013
doggerbank
NSW, 10 posts
17 Feb 2013 4:14PM
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I am planning a trip OS in November and would like to go windsurfing. I am thinking about Thailand but could be Malaysia.
I went to Pattaya last year and used a windsurfing centre (Blue lagoon)operated by an Aussie from Adelaide, facilities were great but Pattaya is not so great!

I am a novice and would like to have some lessons as well.
Any recommendations?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
17 Feb 2013 5:03PM
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Where you go may depend on what part of Australia you are from. From what I've read here, New Caledonia is well set up for windsurf hire and lessons but is quite a long trip from somewhere like WA.

JEZ
WA, 395 posts
17 Feb 2013 10:41PM
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Hi Doggerbank.
I may be biased, but a couple of weeks in the Cocos Islands would lift your sailing a couple of levels, as well as improving your SUPing & pizza appreciation.
10 km runs across the lagoon, 90% on waist deep, 27degree water......
The only problem(for you) is that we run the tours from mid June to mid Sept, our winter, so you would have to adjust your plans.......

Cheers.
Jez

gavnwend
WA, 1372 posts
14 Apr 2013 2:01PM
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Anyone for cocos island heading there mid june never been but its its fantastic slalom wave bump n jump whatever you desire . Flights can be expensive so book way ahead

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
14 Apr 2013 3:34PM
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Check out Borakay Philippines, looks like the ultimate spot to work on technique.
Onshore wind, large bay, offshore reef to slow the swell and chop.
Very similar setup to Kailua Bay Oahu Hawaii where windsurfing first really took off.

Dibbsy23
NSW, 43 posts
14 Apr 2013 7:49PM
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I have a mate you got good windsurfing/gear and rentals in Vietnam. Mui ne was the name of the beach, I think?

Dibbsy23
NSW, 43 posts
14 Apr 2013 8:08PM
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This is where he stayed. Not sure when it's windy there but I am sure a bit of research wouldn't be hard to find out.
www.windsurf-vietnam.com/

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
14 Apr 2013 9:50PM
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There is a windsurfing resort / camp in Fiji. Learner friendly and they provide lessons. Not sure what time of the year is best for wind.

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
17 Apr 2013 1:01AM
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I have a similar problem. I did a 6 hour course at Sandringham 6 weeks ago. The same course I'd done 15 years before. (The gusty wind, slippery longboards, beat up shins and sunburn put me off for 15 years).

www.planetwindsurfholidays.com
www.club-mistral.com
www.planetwindsurfing.com
www.clubvass.com
www.velawindsurf.com
www.harry-nass.com

Understandably enough, most of these are targeted at the European or American customer.

I'd like to go for 2 months in the Northern summer. At first I thought I'd go to Maui. SUP in the morning, windsurf in the afternoon, and I'll be like this guy in no time.



(Hey, it's only 2 out of 4, so it's possible). But, you need a car, and I think there are cheaper and more beginner-friendly places.

Now I'm thinking either Greece (Vasiliki?) or Egypt (Dahab?). I'm leaning towards Dahab. The water is warmer and there are heaps of hotels and gear rental centres. OTOH, some say 27 degree water and 40 degree air can be too much of a good thing, and don't they have a permanent revolution or something?

Duck gybes and duck tacks after 2 months of everyday sailing at Dahab is possible surely? Right?

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
17 Apr 2013 1:35AM
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MrCranky have a look at Bonaire

www.facebook.com/pages/4ever-Young-Projects/459496530740399

FormulaNova
WA, 15083 posts
17 Apr 2013 6:51AM
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MrCranky said...

Now I'm thinking either Greece (Vasiliki?) or Egypt (Dahab?). I'm leaning towards Dahab. The water is warmer and there are heaps of hotels and gear rental centres. OTOH, some say 27 degree water and 40 degree air can be too much of a good thing, and don't they have a permanent revolution or something?



I thought Dahab was very gusty when I was there, and there is a huge wind shadow off of the beach for a way out, so I am not sure I would recommend it for someone starting out.
It is also off-shore, so may not be good if someone has trouble staying upwind, even though there are plenty of rescue boats around.

The weather was great though.

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
17 Apr 2013 7:02PM
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KA360 said...
MrCranky have a look at Bonaire

www.facebook.com/pages/4ever-Young-Projects/459496530740399


LOL, I must be doing something seriously wrong, but the cheapest airfare I can find is 11,000. All the flight search engines end up with flights routing through Amsterdam. Surely from Melbourne it should be through LA.

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
17 Apr 2013 7:24PM
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FormulaNova said...
MrCranky said...

Now I'm thinking either Greece (Vasiliki?) or Egypt (Dahab?). I'm leaning towards Dahab. The water is warmer and there are heaps of hotels and gear rental centres. OTOH, some say 27 degree water and 40 degree air can be too much of a good thing, and don't they have a permanent revolution or something?



I thought Dahab was very gusty when I was there, and there is a huge wind shadow off of the beach for a way out, so I am not sure I would recommend it for someone starting out.
It is also off-shore, so may not be good if someone has trouble staying upwind, even though there are plenty of rescue boats around.

The weather was great though.



I thought they had a shallow lagoon with side-shore. Oh well... Are the other places in Egypt worth going?

FormulaNova
WA, 15083 posts
17 Apr 2013 6:28PM
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MrCranky said...
FormulaNova said...
MrCranky said...

Now I'm thinking either Greece (Vasiliki?) or Egypt (Dahab?). I'm leaning towards Dahab. The water is warmer and there are heaps of hotels and gear rental centres. OTOH, some say 27 degree water and 40 degree air can be too much of a good thing, and don't they have a permanent revolution or something?



I thought Dahab was very gusty when I was there, and there is a huge wind shadow off of the beach for a way out, so I am not sure I would recommend it for someone starting out.
It is also off-shore, so may not be good if someone has trouble staying upwind, even though there are plenty of rescue boats around.

The weather was great though.



I thought they had a shallow lagoon with side-shore. Oh well... Are the other places in Egypt worth going?



I have only been to Dahab, so I can't comment on any other places in Egypt. I met someone once that said Moonbeach was good, but again, I don't know first hand.

The lagoon at Dahab is still off-shore (well it depends on which way you look at it), and its so gusty in that part that you probably won't like it. It's not until you get outside to the 'speed strip' that the wind is more consistent and fun.

The hotels there unfortunately block a lot of the wind.

Having said this, I did enjoy the experience. It was nice being able to get your gear from the beach and go out, and be able to sail back, have a slice of pizza and a coke, and then go back out.


Bristol
ACT, 347 posts
17 Apr 2013 10:28PM
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Please consider Dahab. It IS beginner-friendly.

We had a thread about the Dahab experience posted here February, 2011. If you search for this via Google (eg search for "Seabreeze Windsurfing Dahab"), you'll find it.

As I understand it, the internal search in Seabreeze only looks back 12 months, although there may be a way to tweak it.

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
17 Apr 2013 10:31PM
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Bonaire top place, but yeah, expensive to get to from Oz.

The key for those learning spots is to look at the prevailing winds for the time of the year you're looking at.

Schools are not useful for offshore or gusty winds. Often they're OK for half the year, useless for the rest. It's like learning at Balmoral on a westerlies... I only ever teach newbies on an onshore, or thereabout.

(they still teach at Sanderingham??)

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
17 Apr 2013 11:45PM
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Bristol said...
Please consider Dahab. It IS beginner-friendly.

We had a thread about the Dahab experience posted here February, 2011. If you search for this via Google (eg search for "Seabreeze Windsurfing Dahab"), you'll find it.

As I understand it, the internal search in Seabreeze only looks back 12 months, although there may be a way to tweak it.


Thanks, I have read that thread. It's what started tipping me in favour of the Dahab option. But bloody hell! The Northern summer is almost here, and I still can't make up my mind. I am aware of the power of Google, and have been using it to search Seabreeze. Google is the best way to search even the Microsoft website.

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
17 Apr 2013 11:50PM
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pierrec45 said...
Bonaire top place, but yeah, expensive to get to from Oz.

Isn't everything? Most of the resorts seem to be around the Caribbean and the Mediterranean. But at least we're closer to Maui than Europe.

pierrec45 said...
(they still teach at Sanderingham??)

Sure do.

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
18 Apr 2013 6:22PM
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For a beginner you want onshore wind, endless waist to chest deep warm water, an offshore reef giving a wide protected lagoon for long flatwater reaches, cheap plentiful gear and lessons and not on the other side of the world.
Borakay Phillipines is one example.

hardpole
WA, 604 posts
18 Apr 2013 7:57PM
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Beaglebuddy said...
For a beginner you want onshore wind, endless waist to chest deep warm water, an offshore reef giving a wide protected lagoon for long flatwater reaches, cheap plentiful gear and lessons and not on the other side of the world.
Borakay Phillipines is one example.


wrong side of the world I think

but similar time zone, and the beer in the Philippines is great !

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
19 Apr 2013 6:56PM
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Beaglebuddy said...
For a beginner you want onshore wind, endless waist to chest deep warm water, an offshore reef giving a wide protected lagoon for long flatwater reaches, cheap plentiful gear and lessons and not on the other side of the world.
Borakay Phillipines is one example.


According to this

www.planetwindsurfholidays.com/resorts/philippines/boracay

it's the low season there in June/July. Maybe OK for a total noob like me for a week, but 2 months?

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
19 Apr 2013 6:10PM
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No way am I going to a muslim country especially with what is happening in Egypt right now. That place has had terrorist attacks before, you are a target there. Plus it's said to be kind of a spooky sail as the backdrop is just the ocean, you are sailing straight out into an open sea.
Borakay has wind for only part of the year, not sure what part exactly.
Maui would be really good but the wind is sideshore so your reaches are straight out to sea, hopefully that doesn't spook you.
Kailua on Oahu, hometown of Robby Naish is straight on shore, there is an offshore reef, some waves and even an island to sail around.
Borakay is said to be a bit crowded but things are cheap, Hawaii is expensive but compared to Australia maybe not so expensive.
How about LaVentana baja Mexico, everyone from the Gorge in Oregon goes there for the winter.

FormulaNova
WA, 15083 posts
19 Apr 2013 6:23PM
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Beaglebuddy said...
No way am I going to a muslim country especially with what is happening in Egypt right now. That place has had terrorist attacks before, you are a target there. Plus it's said to be kind of a spooky sail as the backdrop is just the ocean, you are sailing straight out into an open sea.


Nah, its not spooky. There are heaps of people about, and the rescue boats are common.

Dahab is different, in that the locals seem to like you for the income it brings. I think the people there are less intense than the Caironese, and the ones I met seemed nice. Cairo is chaotic, but the people in Dahab are much more relaxed.

There were bombings there only a few months before I went, but the stories were that it was people from the big cities trying to discourage tourism. Without tourism, Dahab would be just a couple of fishing boats.

Its quite intense to realise that you really are in a Muslim country when you hear the call to prayer at 5am or earlier.

If I went again, I would try and fly direct into SSH, as I didn't like the aggressiveness in Cairo, where they seem to think all tourists are rich and deserve to pay. It was nice in Dahab to be able to offer a tip for good service instead of have it demanded of you in Cairo.

Darvio
SA, 160 posts
19 Apr 2013 9:35PM
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Booracy is easy to get to from Oz. it's also coming into he wind season in Nov.

Great spot and AWESOME beer. Worth going for the San Mig Pale Pilsen alone.

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
20 Apr 2013 4:33AM
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FormulaNova said...
Beaglebuddy said...
No way am I going to a muslim country especially with what is happening in Egypt right now. That place has had terrorist attacks before, you are a target there. Plus it's said to be kind of a spooky sail as the backdrop is just the ocean, you are sailing straight out into an open sea.


Nah, its not spooky. There are heaps of people about, and the rescue boats are common.

Dahab is different, in that the locals seem to like you for the income it brings. I think the people there are less intense than the Caironese, and the ones I met seemed nice. Cairo is chaotic, but the people in Dahab are much more relaxed.

There were bombings there only a few months before I went, but the stories were that it was people from the big cities trying to discourage tourism. Without tourism, Dahab would be just a couple of fishing boats.

Its quite intense to realise that you really are in a Muslim country when you hear the call to prayer at 5am or earlier.

If I went again, I would try and fly direct into SSH, as I didn't like the aggressiveness in Cairo, where they seem to think all tourists are rich and deserve to pay. It was nice in Dahab to be able to offer a tip for good service instead of have it demanded of you in Cairo.



Yes of course the people in Dahab are nice and don't want to kill you but what's to stop extremists from going down there to try to kill some westerners?
No thankyou.

FormulaNova
WA, 15083 posts
20 Apr 2013 6:59AM
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Beaglebuddy said...
FormulaNova said...
Beaglebuddy said...
No way am I going to a muslim country especially with what is happening in Egypt right now. That place has had terrorist attacks before, you are a target there. Plus it's said to be kind of a spooky sail as the backdrop is just the ocean, you are sailing straight out into an open sea.


Nah, its not spooky. There are heaps of people about, and the rescue boats are common.

Dahab is different, in that the locals seem to like you for the income it brings. I think the people there are less intense than the Caironese, and the ones I met seemed nice. Cairo is chaotic, but the people in Dahab are much more relaxed.

There were bombings there only a few months before I went, but the stories were that it was people from the big cities trying to discourage tourism. Without tourism, Dahab would be just a couple of fishing boats.

Its quite intense to realise that you really are in a Muslim country when you hear the call to prayer at 5am or earlier.

If I went again, I would try and fly direct into SSH, as I didn't like the aggressiveness in Cairo, where they seem to think all tourists are rich and deserve to pay. It was nice in Dahab to be able to offer a tip for good service instead of have it demanded of you in Cairo.



Yes of course the people in Dahab are nice and don't want to kill you but what's to stop extremists from going down there to try to kill some westerners?
No thankyou.


Yeah, true. Its a shame that some idiots are ruining what is an ideal setup where the locals get a good income, and it doesn't conflict with their way of life.

Unfortunately, there are crazies everywhere, and you could have the same problem anywhere. Dahab is very spread out though, so it would be unlikely, albeit not impossible.


sandrolina
1 posts
27 Apr 2013 5:21AM
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FormulaNova said...
Beaglebuddy said...
FormulaNova said...
Beaglebuddy said...
No way am I going to a muslim country especially with what is happening in Egypt right now. That place has had terrorist attacks before, you are a target there. Plus it's said to be kind of a spooky sail as the backdrop is just the ocean, you are sailing straight out into an open sea.


Nah, its not spooky. There are heaps of people about, and the rescue boats are common.

Dahab is different, in that the locals seem to like you for the income it brings. I think the people there are less intense than the Caironese, and the ones I met seemed nice. Cairo is chaotic, but the people in Dahab are much more relaxed.

There were bombings there only a few months before I went, but the stories were that it was people from the big cities trying to discourage tourism. Without tourism, Dahab would be just a couple of fishing boats.

Its quite intense to realise that you really are in a Muslim country when you hear the call to prayer at 5am or earlier.

If I went again, I would try and fly direct into SSH, as I didn't like the aggressiveness in Cairo, where they seem to think all tourists are rich and deserve to pay. It was nice in Dahab to be able to offer a tip for good service instead of have it demanded of you in Cairo.



Yes of course the people in Dahab are nice and don't want to kill you but what's to stop extremists from going down there to try to kill some westerners?
No thankyou.


Yeah, true. Its a shame that some idiots are ruining what is an ideal setup where the locals get a good income, and it doesn't conflict with their way of life.

Unfortunately, there are crazies everywhere, and you could have the same problem anywhere. Dahab is very spread out though, so it would be unlikely, albeit not impossible.






come in Croatia,Viganj
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PeterPaan
NSW, 67 posts
27 Apr 2013 10:32AM
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Agree about Dahab!!! Fantastic destination. The snorkeling and diving experiences are just out of this world....the missus and kids will love it.

While everyone has different views of Cairo, but seriously seeing the pyramids and all that historic stuff is also quite mind blowing.

Faff
VIC, 1370 posts
5 May 2013 8:46PM
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June, July windsurfing novice holiday - I'm in a real bind.

Club Mistral suggests Dahab ("Wind Shadow? - Only right in front of the hotel, but just out it's perfect! Offshore? - We have boats to catch you!") and Alcati, Turkey. Mauritius is another option, "you may also be able to learn to surf there, but you'll need a wetsuit". Anyone been there? How cold does it get?

How trustworthy are sports travel companies with their recommendations? Could they be pimping stock they need to move?

The options I've considered so far:

Dahab. Off-shore wind, wind shadow at the beach. smartraveller.gov.au says "You should reconsider your need to travel to the Governorate of South Sinai (except for Sharm el Sheikh, where you should exercise a high degree of caution)." Great.
Maui. No clubs operating right on the beach. Need to rent a car. Expensive. Not exactly beginner-friendly.
Bonaire. A very expensive ticket, and missing a connection from LA would be a royal pain.

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
5 May 2013 9:33PM
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New Cal
Need I say more....

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
5 May 2013 9:42PM
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Bonaire can be done for about the same price as Europe.
Book with American Airlines head office in Ireland,pay with card for free travel insurance.The flights across the US and into the Caribbean are well priced.
When you board your Qantas aircraft in Sydney,you will have paid half of what the guy sitting next to has .He will have 23kg luggage allowance but you have 2x30kg with an option of another 30kg more for $50,so take all the gear you want and don't rent .You could have a stopover in LA and take kids to disneyland.
A very special place with beautiful people and an experience you will never regret doing.



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