well it wasn't a downwind kiter but a windsurfer as well nevertheless i guess the key word to all of these is who has "control"..but who can figure that out in a threesome melee when the adrenalin rush is on
this is not a problem for the qld'ers amongst us.
miles and miles of beaches to yourself. 
the speed strips are a different story though. 
but just in case in qld, sailor heading out has rght of way.
I think the windsurfer did. The way I see it is you should not "trap" someone on the inside of the break. It can be hard to get out, you can have no speed/power, and can get your gear trashed.
Nothing is more annoying than getting a wave, and as your about to head back out, someone is tearing towards you leaving you no room but the sand to crash onto.
Wait until rider is out past the break, and then go, you just have to slow down for 30s and get the next wave.
I don't know how a collision like that occurs unless both riders are daydreaming.
this is silly.. conflict between kite and pole as per usual at most spots wher the 2 parties dont get along.. both are stubborn n stupid n they both end up being schooled like little b!tches.
but seriously.. the poley would have right of way in this situation unless the kiter was actually on a wave, i cant really tell.. either way the poley could of forces windward and gone around the kiter or gybed alot earlier if he was paying attention. but you can see that either neither of them noticed each other or they wer just thick.
rider going out having right of way as far as im concerned only applies when leaving the beach as riders leaving the beach has nowhere to go but onto the sand or into the water.. water is safer to get thrashed on than sand is ( in kiting that is)
as for the "strings" they are actually called lines u noobs. but the kiter if he was to give way and the windsurfer was to bear off down wind to avoid the collision and if the kiter decided to bottom turn around him the kiter would easily just raise his kite height to give the windsurfer clearance.. its simple so either way the problem could of been solved in many ways.
wouldnt it be easier just to stick to "starboard" has ROW. Then when trying to make a quick decision you only have one to make - what tack am I on?
Not ROW/wave position etc etc etc
EVERYONE HAS TO GET OUT THE BACK BEFORE YOU EVEN GET AND OPPERTUNITY TO WAVE RIDE.
IF YOU HOLD YOUR LINE HEADING OUT ......AND KEEP A CONSTANT SPEED PLANING OR PLODDING AT THE LIP TO JUMP OR GET OVER.
What fk more can one do ,You carnt change direction radically.....
The wave rider thus calls the shots as he should be able to dance and change directions..............
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.................i now realise how dangerous this sport is mixing surf breaks with kkkkkkkkkkkkiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttteeeeeeeer.
and now the pain in the are one that rules don't seem to be abe to fix: backside riding spots. Let's use Dutchies as an example. I don't bother to try and ride frontside as it is rather unrewarding so on a windy day with say a waist hi wave, on the way in I ride upwind a little comin up toward the peak, last minute I cut upwind hard an pop little backside air reo thing off it. Top fun compared to Gnaraloo but anyway....
Every time some mongrel comes flying over the back of the wave at 30kn just about 0.5 sec before I cut upwind hard (bottom turn). How fvkin obvious is it when there is a wave 5m behind me I'm already going up the line fast and have looked over my shoulder at the wave 5 times in as many seconds AND it is peaking just upwind of me and behind me. Usually some d!ck on slalom gear who is not "using" the waves and would be just as happy at another beach but no he has to BAF thru a break. Knobs. Then again it is just as often fellas on wave gear with european accents......
Back hand or not if someone is heading out and you can see them holding there line at the lip you want to hit wave riding ......MAKE THE CALL
1PULL UP IN FRONT of the dood charging out... EARLIER, WACK IT AND GET OUT OF THERE.
2 Carve around and let them through getting out the back ....with or with out a jump ( ALWAYS woooohooooo or make animal noised as you wave ride past).
AND or SCORE A BOARD UNDER THE RIB CAGE AND DIE.
As for crew flying over the back of waves.........wack it first but time it so you can ,grab the noise of his board,as your coming off the top .... drag the kit to the shore break and drop it there ....you will be doing your self a favour .
PASSION IS GOOD Wheres SPRINGER / or is it like CHEATERS .................. Dont get hit and slashed up ..... especially by a kiters, that will ruin your day........??????????
Hey, lucky I read this thread then or I'd be thinking it was the same rules as surfing. I'd be charging down the line tomorrow, my first time in surf and yelling "Get off my frickin' wave howlee!" and layback carving right in front of you... well in my mind.
Yeah, makes sense to be opposite to surfing rules as is much harder being caught inside on a windsurfer than on a surfboard (OK a bodyboard for me, embarresment).
>> Who has ROW if it is a left break (ie Gnarlamaroo) and you are sailing out on a port tack? Still the person sailing out?
The principle its the same same as surfing .......Surfing you take off look down the line ,see someone paddling out.......SO.....YOU GOT OPTIONS snap a turn sending big sheets of spray and ice over them.... ALWAYS...... going wooooohooooo and make aninal noises...........? or carve around them.
Mean time you know the bloke on the inside is paddling hard and straight to the shoulder and , has the option to duck dive.
YOU COULD thus do a big kick ass bottom turn around him as he scrambles over the top and or duck dives,....Make sure you also go wooooohoooo and or make animal noised.........
The cridical point comes when your barral riding, because your ajustments to manouver become less as your locked in your self, when you see some on infront of you paddling out.You are more challanged for room to get past him safely.
so to answer your above question
Ok yes there is port and stardard yatchting / sailing racing rules, but in the surf zone it makes no difference what tack your on hold your speed and line and head for the shoulder/ jumping peak....
The u tube clip Making the windsurfing bloke 210% in the right as hes on starboard TACK also ..........
For me thats not an /or the issue.....
There is also another rule here, windward boat keep clear. The guy on the right would have had the guy on the left in view from the beginning of his ride where as the guy on the left is unable to look over his back.
Another retarded Kiteboarder, what an idiot, definately not in the right, thats the problem they started to kite amungst us, and some fool decided to make right of way rules different for kiters to sailors is the surf, how dumb is that.
More like the windsurfer is sailing amongst kiters !
Windsurfer comes off the worst ! Ran down bigtime !
Moral........keep clear of kitesurfers !
Attitude ??
Notice how I never call windsurfers names such as" knob,jerk,retard,idiot" etc etc.
I don't have any jealousy problems !
The windsurfer could have sheeted out and stalled and avoided the collision.
He made the mistake of continuing directly towards a collision. Came off second best,that's for sure !
> Windsurfer comes off the worst ! Ran down bigtime !
> Moral........keep clear of kitesurfers !
What an idiot. Means if I drive a truck I can hit bikes?
What about respect on the water, something you seem to have none of, as you were raised as a complete brat it seems.
Anyway, personally I get respect by tripping accidentally over the lines on the beach, and driving them on purpose to windward. I often ride older boards, so I don't mind breaking bits by going after windsurfers and kiters that don't respect others - and those stick out like dogs balls on water.
I'm glad I gave up windsurfing!
You guys are so serious and so anal! 
What ever happened to the happy go lucky crew that I knew ??
User - the other reason I may have come across as 'serious and anal' is i'm
stuck inland and have been without a sail for about 6 weeks! And waiting to get home to see my new sail! I think you could understand that.
