was like slalom on steroids
i loved watching it, and seemed like they were on to a great thing. it was probably far too tricky for the masses and therefore maybe most couldn't relate to it??
some poor poor decisions have been made lately - bring back super X i say ![]()
well freestyle's tricky enough, but add racing to it and makes it over the top somewhat i guess
yeah freestyle in the surf sounds great ![]()
i like the idea of freestyle in the surf. it's like a fluid skate park on steriods. ![]()
i hope it doesn't kill the progression of flat water freestyle boards though.
I reckon freestyle in the waves is a great idea. It will make for heaps more sailing options. It would make it a lot more viable to hold local freestyle comps in Australia. I think people have been reluctant to hold freestyle comps here because there aren't many people that can do the flat water spinny stuff. There are heaps of people that can do forwards and backies etc well ,which would be high scoring moves. It would then become a bonus if you could do a few flat water moves.
Bring back the Dutchies event as a wave/freestyle comp.
That's exactly the point though. If there's bugger all swell it doesn't really matter. You can still do loops jumps or freestyle spinny things.
To the people who red thumbed me: so you really think SuperX was too tricky for the masses to relate to.... but freestyle is NOT
?
Always thought it would be great to organise an 'everyday sailor' super x.
You could create divisions based on levels or simply make the tricks worth points like a handicap system... if you go all the way through without any tricks you get time added to your overall result.
I also think it would be a bloody great laugh to get 5 of your windsurfing mates and go gang busters around a course chariot race style... last sailor standing wins !
One time at band camp... well actually a yearly sailing trip with mates where the swell failed to appear we got an inflatable pool toy (crocodile) tied a brick to it and took turns trying to jump over it... which then degenerated into attempting to land on it and burst it.
Very very entertaining, and plenty of carnage caused.
I do a lot of Freestyle when i go out in surf, but not by choice. However I'm sure it's amusing to watch. ![]()
funny how loops and stuff in waves that used to be considered wavesailing will now be called freestyle, and sailing in the surf with no tricks will now be called wavesailing
look out you wavesailors who can loop, you are about to be known as freestylers under the new PWA laws
hehe
watching that recent pwa freestyle event in the waves wasn't far removed from watching a so called wave sailing event from early 2000's just with the odd flakka, chacho, shaka thrown in (but still great to watch no matter what they called it)
Does anyone know why it was dropped?
I remember when it was introduced it was hoped it would produce spectacular footage to win back tv time and sponsorship.
did i happen to metion that poor decisions have been made lately? if not, i just want to reiterate that poor decisions have been made lately![]()
I am not sure why it was dropped, but I personally didn't like it at as a real series. Fine for a one of novelty event. Racing in swell always looks good. I remember back at the UK, Brighton event when there was a decent shore break and they put the gybe marker 10 meters of the beach. Great racing.
All it really did was produce some good boards and sails. Sponsorship works both ways, money allocated to superX could be used in other disciplines. I don't know about the visual spectacle of it, to me maybe it would be deserving of a one off 20 second grab on like something like sports tonight, that is about all. Maybe it would work as a one off promotional fun sort of thing at races- get the freestyle guys racing their gear ![]()
In a world where the PWA can't even run an event in Maui disciplines such as superX don't have much chance.
As far as I'm concerned, there's only two kinds of competition:
1. Go as fast as you bloody can. That's slalom, speed, course racing or whatever and,
2. Go as sick as you can. That's in waves or not just go crazy. Who cares what the hell you call it just,
Don't try and mix the two it's stupid!!!
I agree, making racers do tricks because thats the rules is a bit stupid. Sort of like making a GP bike rider pull a mono a lap. Its not the trick that makes the race exciting, its the racing.
So if the PWA or whoever wants to make windsurfing more TV friendly, get back to the roots of professional windsurfing competition. Wave sailing and slalom racing at the same venue.
Just finishing watching the some footage from the wavesailing at Pozo this year. It would be fantastic to have racing in those sorts of conditions and locations. No need for Super X rules when racing on the limit. Same at Slylt. Mental conditions would make racing exciting without the need for forced tricks. It would be hard to racing on full on slalom gear in those sorts of conditions as 3/4 of the battle would be keeping on the water.
I have not really kept up with how professional windsurfing runs now but it appears that the different discplines of wave, racing and freestyle happen at different places. If I am incorrect please correct me. However if I am correct I reckon its a mistake. Back in the 80s and 90s the wave and race guys and girls competed against each other. Would be great to be running events when the waves are good and racing when the waves are not so good. It would be TV, Wide World of Sports, friendly too.