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Water squeezing through a line of small pinholes visible through EVA JP Freefoil LXT 115

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Created by jksmurf 8 months ago, 21 Mar 2025
jksmurf
211 posts
21 Mar 2025 11:56AM
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Hi,

Mark_Australia already commented on the JP Freefoil LXT being fragile in another post here www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Foiling/Which-brands-have-good-quality-foil-boards and I would pretty much agree!

I have 3 of them now 105/115/130 (glutton for punishment?).

Anyway long story short, I have the 115 (early model 2020) out in the sun drying atm and I noticed some damp spots on the EVA on one side between the back and front foot straps; funnily enough all in a line (actually two lines) about 5 in one line (join/lap in original glass?), two in the other, which suggests some minor failure of deformity in the original construction? The EVA is also lifting a bit (maybe as a result of the water vapor expanding under the form when the board heats up? I don't have any hollow needles so I poked a couple of fat needles with the eyelet end down though the EVA to bleed off some pressure.

So, I squeezed the EVA at each spot and yep, water squeezed up through what must be pretty small pinholes in the epoxy below? I weighed the board and it's a wee bit heavier than the published weights, see below.

Published weights probably w/o footstraps:
2020: 115 LXT 7.9kg130 LXT 8.5kg -Brown EVA
2021:105 LXT 7.9kg 115 LXT 8.3kg130 LXT 8.8kg - Blue EVA - Probably heavier due to more EVA ahead of the mast track
2022:105 LXT 8.0kg 115 LXT 8.4kg130 LXT 8.9kg
2023:105 LXT 8.1kg 115 LXT 8.6kg 130 LXT 9.1kg
2024: 115 Wood Pro 8.6kg 130 Wood Pro 9.1kg
2025: 115 Wood Pro 8.6kg 130 Wood Pro 9.1kg

Refs:
jp-australia.com/p/foil-boards/freefoil-2020/
jp-australia.com/p/foil-boards/freefoil-2021/
etc,

Actual weight progression of 115 LXT (with footstraps) vs published weight of 7.9kg (without)
20Dec24: 8.3kg
11Mar25: 8.5kg (slightly wet)
21Mar25: 8.4kg

So my questions are:

1. Are these bad enough to do something about or so minor it'll go away i.e. leave it, go sailing!
2. If yes, DO something before you pump water all though the board, then I will dry it out as much I can with the famous paper-wick in the vent hole (honestly not sure this will help given pinhole placement) and maybe a wee bit of suction and some sun-driven heat; but then what?
3. Can I stick a needle in at each spot and try to push it down into the board and squeeze heated-up epoxy in there? Not sure I can actually squeeze epoxy through a needle TBH, too viscous.
4. If not should I peel back the EVA and then dry some more then sand back along the line of holes and just repair-glass that; re-glue the EVA.

Along with the Konrad Wingfoil Board (separate thread) I'm getting a bit peeved with the sh!tyy construction of some of these things. Light may be all well and good, but robust it is not (to be fair the 115 has LOTs of miles on it).

[EDIT] Just tried putting the Vent Plug back in and heated it up for a wee while in the sun, then sprayed soapy water on from my spray bottle and I do not see any bubbles. Wondering if the line of pinholes I am seeing in the EVA is a line in an unseen EVA joint, or the contact glue (but that is unlikely to be so uniform). Could that have the effect I am seeing?

Thanks!























ptsf1111
WA, 454 posts
21 Mar 2025 12:32PM
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Quoted weight will always be without footstraps so you need to weigh at least one of your straps and calculate the bare weight. That said, if you didn't weigh the board from new it won't be very helpful as the quoted weights have error margins of up to 6% I believe.

You can weigh bare and do that again after a few sessions so you understand if there is a accumulation of water.

Mark _australia
WA, 23435 posts
21 Mar 2025 6:38PM
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Too many potentials here

could be as simple as them using a prickly roller to pierce it so it does vent a little, reducing bubbles (and therefore warranty claims ) but as far as I know only Sunova does that as they use real glue.

or something put some holes in the EVA by mistake, allowing water in and later coming out due to warmth.
or holes in board .. But why in a line? too weird

my comments re fragility relate to the foredeck - I have not opened up the standing area on one but it's fair to assume it's pretty bad given the shocking front half.

jksmurf
211 posts
21 Mar 2025 6:56PM
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Thanks both,

yeah I waited until the water stopped coming out, squeezing the EVA etc, I then sprayed it with soapy water to see if air was bubbling out and it sort of seems like it's all in the EVA. I really don't know.



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