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Starboard tack wave sailing

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Created by Scatty > 9 months ago, 4 Jul 2014
Scatty
7 posts
4 Jul 2014 6:14AM
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Looking for good place to stay with good starboard tack wave sailing. New to Australia and I would like to be in the right place to windsurf before I pick my college!! I have my priorities right :o)
Thanks peeps

Brien
NSW, 172 posts
4 Jul 2014 11:45AM
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Take a year off college and learn to sail port tack would be my advice. Otherwise Melbourne or the Gold Coast would be your options. Then you just need to consider if you prefer sub tropical or cold climate.

Stuthepirate
SA, 3591 posts
4 Jul 2014 1:55PM
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WA

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
4 Jul 2014 6:50PM
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Never heard of the Tack model in the Starboard range... where does it fit between the evo and the nuevo ??

Mark _australia
WA, 23474 posts
4 Jul 2014 5:16PM
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seanhogan said...
Never heard of the Tack model in the Starboard range... where does it fit between the evo and the nuevo ??



Lots of volume in the nose.


Scatty 90% of the good wavesailing in Oz is port tack, pick the windy spot or good waves and deal with learning again :)

jn1
SA, 2653 posts
4 Jul 2014 6:53PM
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That's an interesting observation Mark. Is that the whole of ocean windsurfing too ? (or just wave sailing).

For me, most of my ocean sailing is in summer on port tack. The only places I am starboard tack is Ardrossan (summer) or North Haven in a winter northerly.

Mark _australia
WA, 23474 posts
4 Jul 2014 5:49PM
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^^^ only wavesailing and I am talking about well known wave spots. You guys have some pretty awesome secret ones no doubt! And must acknowledge SA has more potential for opposite tack wavesailing

Hmm now thinking about Vic and Tassie so may have to revise my estimate downwards...?

Survey would be interesting.

gavnwend
WA, 1372 posts
4 Jul 2014 5:58PM
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European wave sailing is crap .porttack or the way.

sideskirt
328 posts
4 Jul 2014 8:49PM
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gavnwend said...
European wave sailing is crap .porttack or the way.


That's what you say...

Scatty
7 posts
4 Jul 2014 9:11PM
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Hi Guys, thanks for the feedback. I am in melborne at the moment but it's to cold for my liking. Having spent ten years plus in 30 degrees plus everyday but a distinct lack of wind. I prefer warm weather and I have the chance to move anywhere in Australia with in reason. My plan is not to move anywhere I regret. Melbourne is very nice but too cold. Everyone says it's better in the summer. JP does hail from Victoria so it must be quite alright!!
My port tack riding is so poor it's unenjoyable for me unless there is plenty of onshore in it then my backside riding ain't to shabby.
I am stuck in my ways coming from south coast of England and to be honest some of the most talented windsurfers don't do the PWA simply cuz it's all port tack. A great respect for people who can sail both tacks confidently and as explosive on each. I just ain't goofy enough!!

Scatty
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4 Jul 2014 9:33PM
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gavnwend said...
European wave sailing is crap .porttack or the way.


South Coast we have kimmeridge which is world class with three different wave spots from the same launching spot. Hayling island has some good spots and Ringstead bay which was exposed by the magazines in our horror many years ago. Not to mention Cornwall and Tiree and many more starboard tack jumping. Just a shame it's not really windy in our so called summer and to chilly in the winters. I am older and wiser now to want to throw on 5mm wetsuits to try and have fun in the cold:o)

Mark _australia
WA, 23474 posts
4 Jul 2014 9:55PM
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Scatty said...
My port tack riding is so poor it's unenjoyable for me unless there is plenty of onshore in it then my backside riding ain't to shabby.
I........................ I just ain't goofy enough!!




Just to clarify. So you want a starboard tack wave spot. That means port tack waveriding. Yes?

gavnwend
WA, 1372 posts
4 Jul 2014 10:34PM
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sideskirt said...
gavnwend said...
European wave sailing is crap .porttack or the way.


That's what you say...


No offence what l meant is l mainly sail at port tack beaches & prefer the 'evil' favour tack Europe got some fantastic starboard take sailing beaches.

Scatty
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5 Jul 2014 10:30AM
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Mark _australia said...
Scatty said...
My port tack riding is so poor it's unenjoyable for me unless there is plenty of onshore in it then my backside riding ain't to shabby.
I........................ I just ain't goofy enough!!




Just to clarify. So you want a starboard tack wave spot. That means port tack waveriding. Yes?


Hi Mark, the only thing confusing with windsurfing left lol. Starboard jumping port tack on riding is what I am into. Maui where it all began is known as starboard tack venue. Sorry I am stuck in my ways. When it comes to normal surfing I really have no co-ordination at all in a goofy foot setting!!
Another question for everyone is where is the best place to buy equipment. The secondhand market is extremely small here. Understandable when you have only a handful of people windsurfing compared to Europe.

jn1
SA, 2653 posts
5 Jul 2014 4:31PM
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Scatty said...
My port tack riding is so poor it's unenjoyable for me unless there is plenty of onshore in it then my backside riding ain't to shabby.


All I can say is lots of sessions makes perfect. I'm port tack sailor, and only used to sail starboard tack a few times in winter. I know how you feel. The past two summers I've had a few sessions at Ardrossan which is starboard tack on 25-30knot seabreeze - one of the most windliest places I've ever sailed in a seabreeze, and the wind and the swell is bigger than experienced in Adelaide, so there's that factor as well. I must say my starboard jumps are slowly improving. I reckon if I had 1 or 2 seasons at a starboard tack location, I would be as good. All is not lost if you are stuck with a port tack location.

mathew
QLD, 2136 posts
5 Jul 2014 10:50PM
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Scatty said...
Hi Mark, the only thing confusing with windsurfing left lol. Starboard jumping port tack on riding is what I am into. Maui where it all began is known as starboard tack venue. Sorry I am stuck in my ways. When it comes to normal surfing I really have no co-ordination at all in a goofy foot setting!!
Another question for everyone is where is the best place to buy equipment. The secondhand market is extremely small here. Understandable when you have only a handful of people windsurfing compared to Europe.


Still unclear... do you want port-tack waveriding or starboard-tack waveriding ?


Torquay is port-tack
Corro is starboard-tack

Scatty
7 posts
5 Jul 2014 8:57PM
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Port tack wave riding Mat.
Torquay would be what I want minus the cold!!
Jn1, it's a great theory practice but after windsurfing for over 30 years I have given up trying. My right hand forward left foot in the back strap down the line I have never felt comfortable at all. Backside is ok but that doesn't really cut it.
Sorry for any confusion to anybody. Should have said starboard jumping in the first post

barbarian
NSW, 218 posts
5 Jul 2014 11:30PM
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Toowoon bay on the central coast of NSW is good for port tack riding. Some good spots in a nor Easter too, but make sure you get a floaty board and take up cycling for the many days we don't get to sail... Please don't come to Toowoon bay for kiting. There are enough of those already.

Mark _australia
WA, 23474 posts
5 Jul 2014 11:18PM
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Scatty said...
Hi Mark, the only thing confusing with windsurfing left lol. Starboard jumping port tack on riding is what I am into. Maui where it all began is known as starboard tack venue. Sorry I am stuck in my ways. When it comes to normal surfing I really have no co-ordination at all in a goofy foot setting!!
Another question for everyone is where is the best place to buy equipment. The secondhand market is extremely small here. Understandable when you have only a handful of people windsurfing compared to Europe.





Still unclear... do you want port-tack waveriding or starboard-tack waveriding ?


Torquay is port-tack
Corro is starboard-tack





That's why I asked to be sure.

Staaboard tack wavesailing means heading out on starboard and riding on port. That's what Scatty wants.
But when he said his port tack riding was poor I wondered if he meant port tack wavesailing - or port tack riding. Which are opposites.
He used a "port tack spot" interchangably with "port tack riding" whch created some confusion

Corro (WA) is indeed starboard tack waveriding. So it is a 'port tack wave spot'.


Scatty
7 posts
6 Jul 2014 1:42AM
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Starboard tack is the tack of kings lol. Back in the day when windsurfing was cool. It's made a bit of a come back but it would be great to see more starboard jumping venues on the PWA. Be good to see some PWA here. Do not fear although I have dabbled in the dark side kiting never had me hooked. If you can windsurf properly there is way more of a high than kitesurfing so for sure I will not show up with a wake board and a huge lilo flying in the breeze to get in the way. Gone are the times of hobie cats are cruising out of control headed straight for ya

Mastbender
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6 Jul 2014 7:29AM
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Scatty said...
Back in the day when windsurfing was cool.


Excuse me, but when did it ever stop being cool?
Mostly the truly dedicated windsurf now days, which to me makes it even cooler than before.

dan berry
WA, 2562 posts
6 Jul 2014 7:46AM
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Do what BRIEN said but go to maui. Stay there til they deport you then go to school. Perfect

Brien
NSW, 172 posts
6 Jul 2014 11:40AM
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Maybe in future when talking of wind directions everyone should just use the universal and kook proof method of 'wind from the left' or 'wind from the right. ' (gauged when standing on the beach looking at the ocean) I've always found this the best way to communicate with Euro's or anyone with an accent.

NR
WA, 517 posts
7 Jul 2014 10:06AM
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Scatty. kbay used to be my semi local. Working in Blandford and living in Poole. I loved that place and still would take it over 90% of the sails I have here. The only trouble was the consistency was the killer, that's why I moved. Then spent a year and half at the mecca, all star board tack. Met Brien on this thread actually. He was a well good sailor. How are you Brien ? Then moved to WA where it was all back to front for me. So I was the same as you. never really touched port except the odd easterly we got on the south coast and the odd day at gwithian.

I know exactly where you are coming from. I kid you not, I used to get sea sick from sailing port tack wave sailing at first as everything felt so uncoordinated. I often had to come in and sit down on the beach. funny now when I think back. Then after a few months, years, you forget that its any different. especially on the wave sailing. I reckon it was though at least 5 years before just a usual lofty jump felt ok the other way round. It felt incredibly sketchy as I was always lifting the wrong feet. rotations felt fine as they were more deliberate, but just a normal floaty jump, no way. But give it long enough and it all comes good. I would say, use the chance to learn port tack as well. After a few weeks, or months, the riding will click, but the jumping takings a lot longer, or did for me. Then sure enough, if you do find your self back in the UK or Europe, at least Gwithian and your canaries travel spots will be way better.

Scatty
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8 Jul 2014 12:17AM
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Hi NR, I used to sail kimmeridge regularly in 93 onwards until I left in 2000. Brilliant place as well as Overcombe and Ringstead (many years of enjoyable wavesailing) both being my backdoor step beaches. That's possibly why I ended up so bad on the opposite tack. My jumping is fine it's just my riding which sucks and just sucks out any enjoyment.
I have come to Australia simply cuz my parents are getting old so I wanna be able to see them a lot more than I have over the last ten years. My dad can't really fly anymore so I gotta bite the bullet and live here for the foreseeable future:o/ Bonus for my son as he can get good at windsurfing and surfing and have a lot more consistency unlike what I had. I am trying to make the best of a bad situation lol. If I had liked it when they moved out here 15 years ago I may have spent more time looking around and finding windsurfing spots.
Maui would be my choice if it wasn't for my parents!! Maui is after all the superior place for all windsurfing. Australia certainly is superior to England and I am looking forward to sailing here with no crowds. I hope the kite sailing situation isn't as bad as people make out. It certainly killed off a lot of good spots back home with a lot of dangerous kites in the air!!
The best thing about windsurfing is the people who windsurf are normally great people.



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