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Repairing board bags..

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Created by sboardcrazy > 9 months ago, 14 Dec 2014
sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
14 Dec 2014 12:29PM
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Got an old prolimit bag with a stuffed zip with the 'new' board.. anyone ever bothered getting a zip replaced? Is it worth it / how much does it cost?

Mr Milk
NSW, 3115 posts
14 Dec 2014 1:46PM
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sboardcrazy said..
Got an old prolimit bag with a stuffed zip with the 'new' board.. anyone ever bothered getting a zip replaced? Is it worth it / how much does it cost?


Cheap and easy solution is to use velcro. It will never get locked from salt.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
14 Dec 2014 2:10PM
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Mr Milk said..

sboardcrazy said..
Got an old prolimit bag with a stuffed zip with the 'new' board.. anyone ever bothered getting a zip replaced? Is it worth it / how much does it cost?



Cheap and easy solution is to use velcro. It will never get locked from salt.


Good idea! Where's the best place to get heavy duty velcro? ( need some for boat bunk cushions too)..

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
14 Dec 2014 2:14PM
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Mr Milk said..



sboardcrazy said..
Got an old prolimit bag with a stuffed zip with the 'new' board.. anyone ever bothered getting a zip replaced? Is it worth it / how much does it cost?





Cheap and easy solution is to use velcro. It will never get locked from salt.




not an easy fix if the bag has thick padding, the zippers are sewn to the outer layer of the bag and then the padding is added, you would need an industrial machine with a very high foot
even if the zippers work it's best if you leave them open , you don't need any trapped moisture
you don't need heavy duty just the normal stuff is ok ,the trouble is finding someone to sew it

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
14 Dec 2014 2:24PM
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keef said..


Mr Milk said..





sboardcrazy said..
Got an old prolimit bag with a stuffed zip with the 'new' board.. anyone ever bothered getting a zip replaced? Is it worth it / how much does it cost?







Cheap and easy solution is to use velcro. It will never get locked from salt.






not an easy fix if the bag has thick padding, the zippers are sewn to the outer layer of the bag and then the padding is added, you would need an industrial machine with a very high foot
even if the zippers work it's best if you leave them open , you don't need any trapped moisture
you don't need heavy duty just the normal stuff is ok ,the trouble is finding someone to sew it



A sailmaker?

HF
WA, 167 posts
14 Dec 2014 4:56PM
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Sometimes it's just the slider, get a new slider and fit it yourself. Only takes 2 minutes. Just spray some silicon base spray on before.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
14 Dec 2014 7:57PM
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I'll have to have a good look at it. I have silicon spray and use it on my bags but this one looks pretty dead..

Mark _australia
WA, 23472 posts
14 Dec 2014 8:51PM
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^^^ silicone spray won't do a lot if it is jammed up with corrosion. ie: the white aluminium salt is packed into the gaps. You need to dissolve it.
If that is the problem soak it really well in vinegar or CLR repeatedly, interspersed with boiling hot water poured thru it.
Then WD40 and pliers....

Then the silicone spray to protect / prevent re-occurrence.

New zip fitting - choices are endless - swag makers, truck tarpaulin people, camper trailer manufacturers, sail makers, cafe blind places blah blah.
Just get an all plastic zipper!!!

(and how the hell you are getting red thumbs for asking questions has me stuffed)



sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
15 Dec 2014 3:45AM
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Mark _australia said..
^^^ silicone spray won't do a lot if it is jammed up with corrosion. ie: the white aluminium salt is packed into the gaps. You need to dissolve it.
If that is the problem soak it really well in vinegar or CLR repeatedly, interspersed with boiling hot water poured thru it.
Then WD40 and pliers....

Then the silicone spray to protect / prevent re-occurrence.

New zip fitting - choices are endless - swag makers, truck tarpaulin people, camper trailer manufacturers, sail makers, cafe blind places blah blah.
Just get an all plastic zipper!!!

(and how the hell you are getting red thumbs for asking questions has me stuffed)






Ok. Will have a decent look at it next time I get the board out. I think the bag is beyond the unjamming stage.. I'll get a few quotes..

stehsegler
WA, 3549 posts
15 Dec 2014 12:54AM
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I have had bags repaired by Barracuda Sails in Sydney. The have the right sowing machines, zippers, runners and patches to get great results.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
15 Dec 2014 8:08AM
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stehsegler said..
I have had bags repaired by Barracuda Sails in Sydney. The have the right sowing machines, zippers, runners and patches to get great results.


So it must be cheaper to get them fixed than buy another then..

DavMen
NSW, 1509 posts
15 Dec 2014 8:35AM
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You could try canvas/camping repair's, they usually have a home base and also travel the camping grounds to on site repairs - I imagine they are all over the place up the central coast/Newcastle area.
They usually service retirees etc living in caravans with annexes etc. so they don't charge a bomb.

FormulaNova
WA, 15086 posts
15 Dec 2014 7:16AM
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sboardcrazy said..

stehsegler said..
I have had bags repaired by Barracuda Sails in Sydney. The have the right sowing machines, zippers, runners and patches to get great results.



So it must be cheaper to get them fixed than buy another then..


I have had Barracuda repair zippers by replacing the slider and also replacing the entire zip. In my experience, replacing a metal slider with another metal slider is just going to corrode again. Even if there is no moisture on it, it seems the water vapour is enough.

The best repair I have had was one I did myself. I am not sure if the sailmaker would have done it because the material is so think and hard to get at with a machine, but I bought a couple of metres of nylon zip and some sliders online, and sewed it in place by hand. I left the original smaller zip in place and just sewed it to that material. It took a week or so while watching TV of an evening, but its a pretty good job. Not pretty, but serviceable! I used the same nylon that is used in fishing lures, so hopefully it lasts.


15 Dec 2014 9:10AM
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Good topic (from a sail makers point of view) :)

I get a lot of those request here (Sail Repair WA). Not only board bags, but anything with zippers. Sadly many times it is cheaper to buy a new product,,

With the zippers there is 3 options, as you can also read from other post above.

1) Replace the slider. Some times this is enough. Around $20. (you can also do this yourself if you are a bit handy. Slider part is quite cheap)

2) Stitch a entire new zipper on the board bag. This is of course a bit more time consuming. As an example I just did one for a long board surf board bag. $85

3) Ditch the bag and buy a new one. New bags start from around $160 (windsurf board bags)

For the board bags you need quite a "specialized" industrial sewing machine to get through the thick layers.

Cheers
Jesper
Sail Repair WA

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
15 Dec 2014 12:20PM
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sboardcrazy said..


Mr Milk said..



sboardcrazy said..
Got an old prolimit bag with a stuffed zip with the 'new' board.. anyone ever bothered getting a zip replaced? Is it worth it / how much does it cost?





Cheap and easy solution is to use velcro. It will never get locked from salt.




Good idea! Where's the best place to get heavy duty velcro? ( need some for boat bunk cushions too)..



You can get velcro at just about any chandlery. They have it on rolls.


But I bet with a little effort you can use mark's post to get the zip going again.

WindWarrior
NSW, 1019 posts
15 Dec 2014 5:09PM
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There's a mob in Nelson Bay (G&S Canvas) who have replaced/repaired zippers on boards bags and quiver bags for me.
Last one cost me $10 to replace the zipper.
I was so stoked with the price and the turn around I dropped him a six pack.
Ask for Wayne.
PM me if you can't find the business details on line and you need a phone number

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8250 posts
15 Dec 2014 5:53PM
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WindWarrior said..
There's a mob in Nelson Bay (G&S Canvas) who have replaced/repaired zippers on boards bags and quiver bags for me.
Last one cost me $10 to replace the zipper.
I was so stoked with the price and the turn around I dropped him a six pack.
Ask for Wayne.
PM me if you can't find the business details on line and you need a phone number


Sounds like a good one to follow up.I had a look at it and got all the gunk out of it.The zip is missing teeth and you can't get the other side in to start so it looks like it needs a new zip.

stehsegler
WA, 3549 posts
15 Dec 2014 3:12PM
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In the end it depends on the bag. If it's a double board bag that can cost several hundred dollars new. Definitely cheaper to just get a zipper replaced.

The sliders Barracuda Sails uses are all plastic. So no more corrosion. Can't remember but I think the last repair was for 2 bags and was about $60 which included two sliders and a number patched where the bags had been torn. Certainly was cheaper then getting a new bag.

Mark _australia
WA, 23472 posts
15 Dec 2014 5:27PM
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WindWarrior said..
There's a mob in Nelson Bay (G&S Canvas) who have replaced/repaired zippers on boards bags and quiver bags for me.
Last one cost me $10 to replace the zipper.
I was so stoked with the price and the turn around I dropped him a six pack.
Ask for Wayne.
PM me if you can't find the business details on line and you need a phone number


That's so cheap I'd post him a bag from here!!!

westhammer
WA, 506 posts
15 Dec 2014 5:44PM
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Board bags with zippers what a rip off

TRIMMER
QLD, 217 posts
16 Dec 2014 7:29PM
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I am happy to help out any windsurfer .brisbane or Goldcoast. .
I own yatala Trimming & Upholstery 200mtrs north of yatala pies driveway exit 38. .on the m1 half way between brisbane and Goldcoast.. you need a slider no charge... zip replacement $50 tops. Also make custom covers for boards full eva lined... sunbrella sulotion died acrylic bags wont fade.
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