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Puzzled about the Do not put a wet board in your surf bag warning sticker

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Created by candor > 9 months ago, 1 Jul 2022
candor
1 posts
1 Jul 2022 9:00PM
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I just bought a yummy brand new Magic Ride lxt plus a protective padded bag case. The board comes with a funny sticker telling me not to put it in wet when storing? I asked my buddies at the club and they said not to worry about it. They say they do it all the time and that the worse that can happen is that the paint on the board will smudge. Do you guys agree? We have no running water so I use disposible wipes to remove seaweed and sand as best I can. But drying things down is not that easy in our cold and wet climate. What are the risks if I dont?

aeroegnr
1731 posts
1 Jul 2022 9:25PM
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I know one guy personally and I also saw a post on this board somewhere about an issue. Some board paint will bubble up if stored in a bag while wet. It hasn't happened to one of the three boards I've got constantly stored in bags (I try to dry them but they've usually got some moisture on them).


www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Review/New-wave-board-for-Severne-?page=7

Mark _australia
WA, 23446 posts
1 Jul 2022 9:26PM
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Can make the paint bubble from osmosis

However, some seem to do it bad and others not (I've never had a problem with any board ever, but seen others turn to looking like a plucked turkey just from apparently being put away wet)

SurferKris
475 posts
1 Jul 2022 9:29PM
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Due to osmosis the water can actually get in under the top layer of paint and lift it off from the primer. This will then show up as small water-filled bubbles all over the board...

Mark _australia
WA, 23446 posts
1 Jul 2022 9:42PM
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And interesting:

www.glasurit.com/au/blistering


So humidity and crappy prep causes it ....... but board companies will blame wet bags? I wonder......

thedoor
2469 posts
1 Jul 2022 11:14PM
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Oh paint, makes more sense than the other rationale I heard "that humid air would enter an open vent", which never made much sense to me esp as bags are not sealed relative to the outside (eg fin slots , partially opened zippers etc) so humidity would equalize.

Sandman1221
2776 posts
2 Jul 2022 2:20AM
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SurferKris said..
Due to osmosis the water can actually get in under the top layer of paint and lift it off from the primer. This will then show up as small water-filled bubbles all over the board...


+2

Mr Hooper
WA, 154 posts
2 Jul 2022 2:57AM
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You could leave it in the bathroom with the door open slightly and the fan on for about 6 weeks.
I read that on a forum somewhere.

cald
QLD, 164 posts
2 Jul 2022 6:02PM
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DEFINITELY DONT STORE WET BOARD IN BAGS IF YOU LIVE ANYWHERE HOT AND/OR HUMID

Had it happen to one of my boards this year, I had no idea it was a thing. Now I transport boards in a bag but take them out when storing.

Pretty sure the board had a bad paint job on the bottom, on closer inspection it was full of pitting and when I sanded and repainted the affected area the masking tape I put on to protect some of the good paint pulled the paint off.

Living in qld probably doesn't help and it occurred during the mass rain events we had earlier in the year where we were at basically 100% humidity and close to 30 degrees for days on end. I'm not sure if the board might not have done it even if it was out of the bag, it would have been hot and humid AF in the garrage

Mr Hooper
WA, 154 posts
2 Jul 2022 6:42PM
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How many products can you think of that it's ok to store in a damp, sweaty invironment for long periods of time ? Pretty much none.
It can't hurt to put your board in a wet board bag for a little while but let it out to dry off and breath when you can.
It's not just paint. It's not great for your foot straps or your deck pads. You also may have small dings in your board that you don't know about.
Forget about the big bad board companies trying to cover their arses, It's just not a great idea long term to leave your board like that.

kato
VIC, 3507 posts
2 Jul 2022 8:50PM
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Never ever had an issue with this . It's either my boards are well made or it's never warm enough in Victoria to cause an issue

Mark _australia
WA, 23446 posts
2 Jul 2022 6:55PM
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Mr Hooper said..
How many products can you think of that it's ok to store in a damp, sweaty invironment for long periods of time ? Pretty much none.

Forget about the big bad board companies trying to cover their arses, It's just not a great idea long term to leave your board like that.


Good points.

cald
QLD, 164 posts
2 Jul 2022 9:05PM
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Mr Hooper said..
How many products can you think of that it's ok to store in a damp, sweaty invironment for long periods of time ? Pretty much none.
It can't hurt to put your board in a wet board bag for a little while but let it out to dry off and breath when you can.
It's not just paint. It's not great for your foot straps or your deck pads. You also may have small dings in your board that you don't know about.
Forget about the big bad board companies trying to cover their arses, It's just not a great idea long term to leave your board like that.


In my case I had the bag open but hadn't removed it from the bag for the reasons you say, let the pads and straps dry etc. . But then also with the inclement weather conditions it wouldn't have helped. It also seemed to occur where the board was sitting on the rack.

I never would have expected this product that is made to be wet would suffer like this from being wet. Live and learn

Mr Hooper
WA, 154 posts
2 Jul 2022 7:32PM
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cald said..

Mr Hooper said..
How many products can you think of that it's ok to store in a damp, sweaty invironment for long periods of time ? Pretty much none.
It can't hurt to put your board in a wet board bag for a little while but let it out to dry off and breath when you can.
It's not just paint. It's not great for your foot straps or your deck pads. You also may have small dings in your board that you don't know about.
Forget about the big bad board companies trying to cover their arses, It's just not a great idea long term to leave your board like that.



In my case I had the bag open but hadn't removed it from the bag for the reasons you say, let the pads and straps dry etc. . But then also with the inclement weather conditions it wouldn't have helped. It also seemed to occur where the board was sitting on the rack.

I never would have expected this product that is made to be wet would suffer like this from being wet. Live and learn


There's a lot of difference between being wet and being wet/damp and humid for a long period of time.
With marine paints ( mostly for boats) there are paints that are recommended for above the water line and for below the water line. They're engineered for differernt purposes.

Sea Lotus
320 posts
22 Oct 2022 1:24PM
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Last year i rinsed my 1 year old (then) goya board, dried it for 3 days, put in a quality board bag with air vent, stored in closed basement storage with limited sun light in tropical island. 7 months later bag had little mold, footstraps had almost no mold but there was light osmosis under the board. Paint had started to come off at these areas after sailing with it.

Any idea how to avoid that happening again?

PhilUK
1098 posts
22 Oct 2022 3:10PM
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Why put it in bag for storage? That will just stop air circulating.

segler
WA, 1656 posts
22 Oct 2022 11:56PM
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No. If your board has paint that permits moisture ingress via osmosis, get a different board or different paint job. That should not happen. The coating on any board, or any craft that touches water, is supposed to be water- and moisture-impermeable.

I store boards in bags all the time. For years. Never had a problem. The only moisture that occurs is outgassing from the footstraps. Bags breathe in and out through the zippers (and vents in some bags).

28knts
NSW, 80 posts
24 Oct 2022 3:01PM
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I find the footstraps is what can put a lot of water inside the bag, before I zip and strap board to roof I place a towel over the footstraps, to absorb the water. When home remove the towel then place board in its rack area, with the bag unzipped to allow air flow to dry the footstraps. If footstraps bone dry will zip the back up.

The only reason I go throw the steps is so I can hopefully increase the longevity of the board bag. By not having too much moisture in bag which could damage stitching and zips.

Richiefish
QLD, 5610 posts
24 Oct 2022 2:45PM
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Mark _australia said..

Mr Hooper said..
How many products can you think of that it's ok to store in a damp, sweaty invironment for long periods of time ? Pretty much none.

Forget about the big bad board companies trying to cover their arses, It's just not a great idea long term to leave your board like that.



Good points.


My genitals ?

tarquin1
954 posts
24 Oct 2022 3:35PM
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Salt. It is corrosive!!
Mr Hooper said it some paints are made to deal with it and humidity and some are not.
I did some research a long time ago into the paint one of the big brands was using. Found out the company that made the paint and sent them an email asking about their 2 part paint X company uses. They had never heard of the company but said we send a lot of paint to this company in China that makes water sport equipment. Also we don't make 2 part paint. We send them paint and spray thinners!!!
Maybe they were using a different company for their 2 part paint???

dohertpk
41 posts
1 Nov 2022 4:28AM
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You don't want osmosis, particularly on the planing surface of anything that travels on the water!

damned67
575 posts
1 Nov 2022 8:36AM
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I had an extensive thread on this in the longboard forum earlier this year.
Seems some boards are more prone to it than others, one theory being the quality of the prep and paint.



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