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Putting wet carbon boards in board bags

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Created by Steve Charles > 9 months ago, 31 Aug 2015
Steve Charles
QLD, 1240 posts
31 Aug 2015 9:38AM
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Hey guys do you think it does the boards any good putting carbon boards straight into a board bag after sailing. Then leaving them in there wet until the next time you sail.

Mark _australia
WA, 23460 posts
31 Aug 2015 1:45PM
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Moisture can get under the paint and make it bubble. I have only had it happen once in many years and I always put boards in wet. I leave the zip open a bit, but on the other hand they live in the car for much of summer so the moisture isn't really going anywhere, they stay wet more often than dry I reckon



So I vote for it's OK

Obelix
WA, 1130 posts
31 Aug 2015 2:16PM
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In my view, all that stuff is mostly unaffected by water, however, I open the zip when I get home and pul the board out to the front straps.
Push the board in after a few days, once the straps are dry on touch.
I make sure it's never exposed directly to sun.



kato
VIC, 3507 posts
31 Aug 2015 5:16PM
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Never had a problem

Craig66
NSW, 2466 posts
31 Aug 2015 5:47PM
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On the 2016 fanatic sups (saw it on the allwave LTD carbon models) is a red triangle sticker near the vent plug warning not to put board in bag wet, to dry it first.
I'm guessing they will not accept any warranty clams if or when they do bubble / blister paint.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
31 Aug 2015 5:52PM
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Fangman dries his in the oven beforehand

KJ
VIC, 161 posts
31 Aug 2015 6:38PM
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In 30 years I've never had the problem. If it's happening it will be due the poor paints they are using

I've got a little problem at the moment with one of my boards from a certain brand where the fancy graphic design on the bottom is coming off. The under lying paint is good, however the graphic you could remove with the sticky side of grey tape. Every time I sail it comes off (in the water), the most paint lost is on the starboard rail between the foot straps - guess what, we have starboard tack sailing conditions!

I have other boards from the same brand but other years - no problem. Other brands but from the same manufacturer (guess who?) and no problems.

I've been discussing with the so called brand about warranty with this board - they've said its due to the fact the you put the board away wet in a board bag. For the above reasons I think that is just rubbish - its crap paint.

I would suggest when you by a new board use the grey tape test. If the paint lifts when you remove the tape - its a poor a paint job.

You have very little recourse with the big companies and I'm starting to doubt whether or not they would ever honour a warranty claim no matter what it is. It does make you re think about buying locally (including NZ) as at least you can "shirt front" the person if need be.

Mark _australia
WA, 23460 posts
31 Aug 2015 6:41PM
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^^ I am hearin ya on the sh!tty paints

Have done a few repairs in the couple of last years where I rub it back with a bit of acetone and the graphics (painted not stickers) come off. It is really annoying to clean a board off with solvents, happy happy scrubbing away ...then after moving along a foot or so suddenly some bits fall off. Used to be that it was all quality 2K but not now. Seems many use a 2K white then spray the patterns . etc with normal rubbish.
Others use a good 2K and do some of the patterns with 2K then a few of the little details with cheap crap.

Kinda like if your whole car was painted all nice, but then u find out the paint on the spoiler falls off with water or polish. Cheapskate rubbish.
(Oh yeah and cheap skate is a deliberate pun for the worst offender )

Boombuster
QLD, 582 posts
1 Sep 2015 8:19AM
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I once had a Windaction board that I put it in a board bag wet and the paint bubbled very slightly I think most modern boards are not painted as much but I always towel off the bottom of my boards and leave the zips undone for a few days.
In the old days we used towel like bags they were good cause they breathed but they could be hard to put the boards in and out more so if you had aggressive deck grip on the board plus they didn't offer as much impact protection.

OESaustralia
SA, 297 posts
1 Sep 2015 8:33AM
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Base coat paint sprayed on to 2 K paint or epoxy filler coat is not sealed from the elements or slovents until you spray 2 k clear over the top of it.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8242 posts
1 Sep 2015 10:31AM
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I always take mine out and put them in the sun( vent undone) till dry then re store them in the bag.

MrSpinout
NSW, 106 posts
1 Sep 2015 1:34PM
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I've got a bucket with me, and use it to flush it with fresh water if there is a tab in the area. Then dry it off with a towel on the bottom and tap it on the top. Put it into the board bag, once I am home I take it out and have it dry for 2 days in my room on the board bag, unless I am going sailing the day after.

Same procedure for my sails, i loosen them up a bit so that air can circulate and put them in the shade on my balcony. Maybe I am too anal about this, but I love my stuff and want it to last as long as possible.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
1 Sep 2015 4:01PM
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MrSpinout said..
I've got a bucket with me



reminds me of;





arancini
WA, 373 posts
1 Sep 2015 2:02PM
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ive had a SUP paint bubble on the bottom. I always put it in the bag wet and left till next time. The dealer advised that the low tox paints they use 'these days' will do that, anyway I traded it in for the same brand, new board and got a good price so he did the right thing, I now leave the new SUP bag open when I put it away.

lanky
QLD, 213 posts
2 Sep 2015 10:15AM
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First issue I have ever had with wet boards in bags was this winter. I went to Europe for 6 weeks and the boards stayed at home in the garage in their bags zippers open but my freestyle boards paint job bubbled like crazy. It's just the paint but still doesn't look too flash and not sure how it effects planing efficiency.

Needless to say it only happened on one board out of 4 and this boards graphics started coming off on their own in year 1 so not really surprised moisture got under them. Needless to say next time I know I'm off the water for more than a couple weeks boards might come out of their bags.

mathew
QLD, 2134 posts
2 Sep 2015 5:04PM
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A towel is your friend.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
2 Sep 2015 7:16PM
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mathew said..
A towel is your friend.


I've had a board bubble up from leaving it in a wet bag. I now always give it a quick towel dry and leave the bag open slightly, easy Solution!

jn1
SA, 2644 posts
2 Sep 2015 6:57PM
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mathew said..
A towel is your friend.




sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
2 Sep 2015 10:49PM
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We can send a man to the moon and yet we can't make a material that offers a level of protection and breathes all in one

PS - Moon conspiracists need not reply.

Mark _australia
WA, 23460 posts
2 Sep 2015 9:07PM
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^^^ no we can.

We just have companies using sh!t paint for cost cutting and calling it enviro friendly blah blah




spanishwog
QLD, 121 posts
5 Sep 2015 10:43AM
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I wash my gear in fresh water and leave out to dry when I get home after a session. Sounds like not to many guys do this so am I wasting my time?
cheer

Mark _australia
WA, 23460 posts
5 Sep 2015 9:26AM
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I would not wash sails that have been in salt water and the salt helps stop mould
Boards, maybe to get sand off so they don't get scratched in the bag but if not sandy I don't see why you'd wash them.

About the only thing is maybe any metal bits, bases, extensions, now and then.

MrSpinout
NSW, 106 posts
7 Sep 2015 7:57AM
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Mark _australia said..
I would not wash sails that have been in salt water and the salt helps stop mould
Boards, maybe to get sand off so they don't get scratched in the bag but if not sandy I don't see why you'd wash them.

About the only thing is maybe any metal bits, bases, extensions, now and then.



I was wondering the same thing. However, I dry my sails for 2 days outside of the bag and loosened up to speed up drying and prevent mould. Isn't that better than leaving the sail wet in the bag with salt water?

mathew
QLD, 2134 posts
7 Sep 2015 9:55AM
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MrSpinout said..

I was wondering the same thing. However, I dry my sails for 2 days outside of the bag and loosened up to speed up drying and prevent mould. Isn't that better than leaving the sail wet in the bag with salt water?


If you leave them anywhere that sunlight makes contact (even indirect), you are shortening the life of the monofilm/x-ply...

UV is the thing that makes your sails shatter (given enough sunlight).

Mark _australia
WA, 23460 posts
7 Sep 2015 10:02AM
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MrSpinout said..

Mark _australia said..
I would not wash sails that have been in salt water and the salt helps stop mould
Boards, maybe to get sand off so they don't get scratched in the bag but if not sandy I don't see why you'd wash them.

About the only thing is maybe any metal bits, bases, extensions, now and then.




I was wondering the same thing. However, I dry my sails for 2 days outside of the bag and loosened up to speed up drying and prevent mould. Isn't that better than leaving the sail wet in the bag with salt water?


I have rolled them up wet for years, longest I have had a sail is maybe 5yrs with no dramas

Then again when using the 2010 -12 ish age Neil Pryde the tack pulleys rusted
Bad enough that the most used one snapped off.....



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