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New sail advice around 5.6 -6m

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Created by N1GEL > 9 months ago, 31 Dec 2013
N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
31 Dec 2013 3:08PM
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It's all progressed since I was last in the game. I'm keen to huy a new (second hand sail) for blasting Botany on my 93ltr JP FSW. Looking for a slalom sail but there's too many friggen options and I'm not huying a new mast yet... have a 2-piece carbon. I've got a 5.0 a 5.6 and 6.0, but they're all around 10 years old. I'm looking for something that I can use most of the time. Was out in 20-25kts the other day and my old Sailworks 5.6 slalom seemed kike a good size. Can you experts please explain to me what I should be looking for when purchasing a flat-water (choppy) sail for blasting around botany. Cheers.

Mistral Nick
QLD, 370 posts
31 Dec 2013 3:19PM
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Don't think you should mate a slalom sail with an FSW, perhaps something like a Hellcat would be more suitable. IMHO

Cluffy
NSW, 422 posts
31 Dec 2013 5:06PM
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Ditto what Nick said a crossover sail is what you want for a FSW. Most of them have tube battens like my Gaastra cross and I think the severne gator has them as well. Not sure about the pryde version. Crossover sails are awesome I love mine. They have the grunt of a springy leach wavesail but with a bit more top end + nice and easy to handle. An rdm mast is the go if you can get hold of one.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
31 Dec 2013 3:42PM
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In 20-25 knots a 5.6m will be plenty. Holding bigger I don't see much point. Have been using a Severne code red 5.6m sail for last 3 years and its awesome. Quite a bit lighter and less rigid despite having 8 battens than other race sails. Luff is 431 cms so a 430 is ok. Cam rotation is another big reason I will not get rid of this sail,it has negligible resistance when rotating. Unlike so many other race sails!

Dezza
NSW, 955 posts
31 Dec 2013 7:22PM
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if you can find a 2nd hand NP 5.7 firefly, nice and light and good for blasting around

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
31 Dec 2013 7:42PM
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Holy sail-information-overload batman... and only 4 posts. Thanks guys. Ill keep researching. Your advice is hugely appreciated.

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
31 Dec 2013 7:48PM
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Can you guys pls dumb it down for me. Do I need something with a short boom,... raf of cam? How many battons etc. Seriously dumb it down. My 5.6 has 3 cams but it sucked waterstaeting after so long...but not too bad. I had to swim up the sail and pop em round then I was good.

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
31 Dec 2013 9:12PM
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2035 said..

Can you guys pls dumb it down for me. Do I need something with a short boom,... raf of cam? How many battons etc. Seriously dumb it down. My 5.6 has 3 cams but it sucked waterstaeting after so long...but not too bad. I had to swim up the sail and pop em round then I was good.


mate i have a 93 litre Jp FSW and the type of sail that best suits that board is a wave sail or freestyle ( No cams ) with 5 battens , my favorite sail on this board is a 5.4 with a max of 6.4 .

I have north gear and use a duke , get on the North web site and see what im talking about then pick the same thing made by the brand of mast you already have.


Corkers
NSW, 154 posts
1 Jan 2014 12:27AM
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You will get lots of different answers. I would have thought any modern free ride sail would be the go. I think you are on the money with size 5.6 to 6. I also have jp fsw 93, I run a 5.3 and 6.6 free ride (loft oxygen or 02) 6.6 is a little big, would stay under 6ish

DunkO
NSW, 1147 posts
1 Jan 2014 10:51AM
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Mast??

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
1 Jan 2014 7:56PM
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Mast? I've got an old carbon job. Baby steps mate. I've got a 2010 JP 93ltr fsw. Just want a good sail and don't mind a few creases. Mast comes after sail. Can you guys point me to a second hand job in the forums.

tomp
NSW, 690 posts
1 Jan 2014 9:07PM
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second hand job

If you get a wave/crossover sail then you could consider a reduced diameter mast as well.
It won't necessarily visually rig better although will (theoretically) be more efficient so better
wind range & more control.

Something 5.3 - 5.8. If you get a 400 mast then should rig on 4.7-5.8.

Match mast to sail, if you want to check mast compatibility check this:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/compatible-mastsail-brands/

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
1 Jan 2014 8:17PM
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Ezzy panther (wave) or cheetah. No cam, great handling, soft ride, non technical, very durable. The cheetah is the best no-cam sail on the market.

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
2 Jan 2014 11:21AM
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Windsurfing sails are cut to fit a certain bending curve . Unlike yachts masts which use a combination of stays ( back , side , diamond, and front ) boom vang cunnigham to shape the mast therefore shaping the sail . A WS has only the down haul so its important that the mast / sail are compatible .

Important but not critical bit like buying a V8 and only using 6 cylinders . Does your old carbon mast have a brand name still on it ?

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
2 Jan 2014 11:34AM
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here something like this you mentioned botany bay so I'm assuming you are from NSW so i did a quick scroll and found this assuming your mast is compatible ie constant curve this will be perfect .

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing-Sails/~axi92/2009-North-Duke-54-metre.aspx?search=72r0Sn4YWQ3nLQT51TCz6w==

N1GEL
NSW, 861 posts
2 Jan 2014 1:02PM
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Thanks ggh.

Ive got a sailworks 5.6 syncro... boom = 182 and luff 451.

My mast is a 2 piece Powerex 3300. I think its 30% carbon. Anyone know whether the mast is any good/still current for use with modern sails? I've got no idea how old it is, but it seems they're still making them.

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
2 Jan 2014 8:08PM
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Yer that should be fine, powerex to my knowledge is constant curve so either the Ezzy panther or North duke will be good . Don't buy Neil Pryde .

Carantoc
WA, 7184 posts
2 Jan 2014 5:13PM
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Severne Gator

HSM Superfreak - don't laugh people don't laugh. Strongest most durable sail in the world. Stronger more durable than an Ezzy

Both should rig on a powerex

Waterloo
QLD, 1497 posts
2 Jan 2014 7:26PM
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Carantoc said..

Severne Gator

HSM Superfreak - don't laugh people don't laugh. Strongest most durable sail in the world. Stronger more durable than an Ezzy

Both should rig on a powerex


...and a good tree trimmer...

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
2 Jan 2014 8:57PM
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^^ That's gold



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