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New mast base

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Created by choco > 9 months ago, 19 Apr 2024
choco
SA, 4175 posts
19 Apr 2024 7:21AM
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Interesting concept.

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mob dog
NSW, 290 posts
20 Apr 2024 11:14AM
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Looks pretty good, as long as the replacement tendons are readily available.

ptsf1111
WA, 457 posts
21 Apr 2024 9:06AM
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Keep it simple! I don't have the needs for a detachable base or parts that can be removed without tools. Just another thing that can break.

That said, it's always good to see brands still trying to improve gear.

GasHazard
QLD, 385 posts
21 Apr 2024 7:08PM
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Handy for tendon inspection. It's almost impossible to see cracks propagating from the bolt holes in standard kit.

aeroegnr
1731 posts
21 Apr 2024 8:42PM
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Looks pretty good to me as long as it won't accidentally come apart.

Kasper79
123 posts
26 Apr 2024 2:30AM
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I got one in the mail today. I will test against the classic duotone one and make a video about it. Have tried to take it apart. It is really easy. Now it is going to be interesting to see how easy it is after a week of sandblasting at Defi.

Ben1973
1007 posts
26 Apr 2024 9:22AM
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Just looks like a mast base, I see nothing special about it.

duzzi
1120 posts
26 Apr 2024 10:36PM
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Ben1973 said..
Just looks like a mast base, I see nothing special about it.


www.windsurf.co.uk/unifiber-baseplates/

sheddweller
274 posts
27 Apr 2024 12:53AM
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Iooks like a solution looking for a problem.

Ben1973
1007 posts
27 Apr 2024 7:35AM
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duzzi said..

Ben1973 said..
Just looks like a mast base, I see nothing special about it.



www.windsurf.co.uk/unifiber-baseplates/


No, still see nothing special. Mind you it hard to make a special mastbase as they are very simple things that just work

GasHazard
QLD, 385 posts
27 Apr 2024 1:30PM
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Ben1973 said..

duzzi said..


Ben1973 said..
Just looks like a mast base, I see nothing special about it.




www.windsurf.co.uk/unifiber-baseplates/



No, still see nothing special. Mind you it hard to make a special mastbase as they are very simple things that just work


Or don't. Who hasn't had a tendon break?

Imax1
QLD, 4925 posts
27 Apr 2024 2:59PM
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GasHazard said..

Ben1973 said..


duzzi said..



Ben1973 said..
Just looks like a mast base, I see nothing special about it.





www.windsurf.co.uk/unifiber-baseplates/




No, still see nothing special. Mind you it hard to make a special mastbase as they are very simple things that just work



Or don't. Who hasn't had a tendon break?


Me.
I simply replace it once a year. That way I don't have to pull it apart to inspect it. Trying to get maximum life out of a critical $30 part doesn't make sense to me.

Ben1973
1007 posts
28 Apr 2024 3:55AM
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GasHazard said..

Ben1973 said..


duzzi said..



Ben1973 said..
Just looks like a mast base, I see nothing special about it.





www.windsurf.co.uk/unifiber-baseplates/




No, still see nothing special. Mind you it hard to make a special mastbase as they are very simple things that just work



Or don't. Who hasn't had a tendon break?


Me, I just replace it every couple of years. Not worth the risk when you sail by yourself.
really don't see the need to disconnect the tendon part from the base either, just as quick and easy to take the base off.

mob dog
NSW, 290 posts
29 Apr 2024 7:43PM
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Kasper79 said..
I got one in the mail today. I will test against the classic duotone one and make a video about it. Have tried to take it apart. It is really easy. Now it is going to be interesting to see how easy it is after a week of sandblasting at Defi.


Did you have to explain to the wife why you need that one kasper? Just tell her we all need to see a video review of it if she asks, it is essential we need to know.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
2 May 2024 6:14PM
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It could be interesting to see tendom reinforced with fibres. I imagine it as strong thin rope/ thread going above holes and everything molded in translucent silicone. Interesting is also what is actual mechanism breaking existing mono tendon. If fault apear due to squizing on o e side or rather expanding on another?

choco
SA, 4175 posts
2 May 2024 9:52PM
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Macroscien said..
It could be interesting to see tendom reinforced with fibres. I imagine it as strong thin rope/ thread going above holes and everything molded in translucent silicone. Interesting is also what is actual mechanism breaking existing mono tendon. If fault apear due to squizing on o e side or rather expanding on another?


Duotone tendons have a rope through them

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
2 May 2024 10:30PM
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choco said..


Macroscien said..
It could be interesting to see tendom reinforced with fibres. I imagine it as strong thin rope/ thread going above holes and everything molded in translucent silicone. Interesting is also what is actual mechanism breaking existing mono tendon. If fault apear due to squizing on o e side or rather expanding on another?




Duotone tendons have a rope through them



Lovely. I didn't know that .
I bought 2 Duotone tendons and last me 1 year , now cracks appear so could break any minute.
But next experiment should be with fibres not in the center of tendom but periphery like cylinder few mm depth all around.
Because this way strong fibers could take all loads stretching's now plastic and trying to rip it.
The other way flexing should not be effected by fibers.

Kasper79
123 posts
5 May 2024 3:34PM
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mob dog said..

Kasper79 said..
I got one in the mail today. I will test against the classic duotone one and make a video about it. Have tried to take it apart. It is really easy. Now it is going to be interesting to see how easy it is after a week of sandblasting at Defi.



Did you have to explain to the wife why you need that one kasper? Just tell her we all need to see a video review of it if she asks, it is essential we need to know.


Wifey knows that I have big responsibilities for the windsurfing community, that is to buy new stuff and test it and make videos. It's just my role in this world, but I am not complaining

peterowensbabs
NSW, 496 posts
6 May 2024 7:04PM
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Macroscien said..

choco said..



Macroscien said..
It could be interesting to see tendom reinforced with fibres. I imagine it as strong thin rope/ thread going above holes and everything molded in translucent silicone. Interesting is also what is actual mechanism breaking existing mono tendon. If fault apear due to squizing on o e side or rather expanding on another?





Duotone tendons have a rope through them




Lovely. I didn't know that .
I bought 2 Duotone tendons and last me 1 year , now cracks appear so could break any minute.
But next experiment should be with fibres not in the center of tendom but periphery like cylinder few mm depth all around.
Because this way strong fibers could take all loads stretching's now plastic and trying to rip it.
The other way flexing should not be effected by fibers.


Eh not a smart idea, what are the ends of the fibres going to be anchored to?

The very reason tendons fail is due to one side being in compression and the opposite side being in tension, and every where else in the tendon some where between, by nature the forces are dynamic, there is also a torsional force (twist) there is an in built weak point that is un avoidable and that is where the fixing passes through it. Introducing a co moulded fiber or a mechanical component (like the old style Uj's had with a threaded insert cast in) just further causes weird force distribution and therefore more place to fail. Most Uj and tendon are from the polyurethane family of plastics, which have been improved dramatically in the last 20 years but are still prone to damage from UV, abrasion, over and or repeated deflection, and lastly compression failure. Most people assume that a tendon is being stretched when sailing but it is in fact a shear load and a compressive one.

Yet again, don't over think it. It's a consumable item, they wear out. Check them maybe yearly or more often if your a super regular sailor, and change them if there is damage, discolouration, distortion, or elongation. And hay buy a spare one so it's in the kit ready for use.
Last time I bought 5, ended up making money off them by desperate people at the beach offering me top coin for one then and there! (Not profiteering but genuinely desperate people.)
While your at it get some spare harness lines, fin bolts and a length of formula line for a replacement out haul or down haul. It all fits in a little bag and might just be the difference between getting out sailing and missing out on that epic day! Like the good Boy Scout be prepared!



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