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Little heli vid from Leighton

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Created by AUS1111 > 9 months ago, 24 Dec 2010
AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
24 Dec 2010 3:11PM
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Here is a little raw footage shot by Birdseye as I intercepted some of the front runners in the Kite Race from Rotto to Leighton a few weeks ago.

Nothing to get too excited about but it does offer a helpful comparison of the speeds of slalom boards vs kites in the ocean

The breeze is mid teens so pretty underpowered on 7.0 with weed on the fin!

Thanks Col!


Trousers
SA, 565 posts
24 Dec 2010 5:52PM
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awesome. you certainly had the speed over the kites on that day!

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
24 Dec 2010 8:47PM
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The kites look so lame and directionless in comparison.

Corkers
NSW, 154 posts
25 Dec 2010 9:46AM
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Nice, awesome footage!! you smoked those kiters....

Mark _australia
WA, 23433 posts
25 Dec 2010 8:22AM
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I did notice their time for the crossing was pretty uninspiring compared to the windsurfing record (esp considering ours was both ways too so fatigue is more of an issue and it was set 10-15yrs ago and has not been run since - I reckon we'd be faster now).

Maybe next year they'd have the courage to make it a kite and windsurf race .....????

Elroy Jetson
WA, 706 posts
25 Dec 2010 9:54AM
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AUS1111 said...

I intercepted some of the front runners in the Kite Race from Rotto to Leighton a few weeks ago.



Awesome footage of the helicopter filming so close to you.

The footage of the front runners has 50 kiters trying to chase them down in the background.

See here also:


An experienced windsurfer racing an experienced kiter in the open ocean may well be faster, but double the speed?

To keep things in perspective. The fastest kiter made it in just under 25 mins. This was done by Alex the Frenchman. He was the only one with a specialised board for the racing conditions.




Mark _australia
WA, 23433 posts
25 Dec 2010 10:25AM
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I can't find the windsurf record but from memory it was about 56 - 58mins for the return trip.
Given that fatigue slows you down and it was many many years ago I reckon that translates to a similar time (for one way) as what Alex did.
Would be an interesting contest

Bertie
NSW, 1351 posts
25 Dec 2010 7:20PM
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i heard the WS record was about 19min.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
25 Dec 2010 9:49PM
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Looks like we should get out our old 90s slalom boards and stick them up in the kiting buy and sell as kitesurfing race boards.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
25 Dec 2010 11:04PM
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Great stuff Chris - nice little video. I absolutely love open ocean speed sailing (I don't have much of a choice up here) and from reading your GPSTC posts you tend to do too. You looked like you were really fanging it - did you get close to that 30 knot open ocean Nm on that run?

Elroy Jetson
WA, 706 posts
25 Dec 2010 9:41PM
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Mobydisc said...

Looks like we should get out our old 90s slalom boards and stick them up in the kiting buy and sell as kitesurfing race boards.




Judging by how effective Alex's old board was, it is very likely you will sell them.

Kite racing is at the start of the infant stage. Nearly everybody else in the first Lighthouse to Leighton race were using their normal surfboard or twin tip.

I reckon racing between local experienced kiters and windsurfers will be quite close in a few years time.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
25 Dec 2010 11:32PM
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sausage said...

Great stuff Chris - nice little video. I absolutely love open ocean speed sailing (I don't have much of a choice up here) and from reading your GPSTC posts you tend to do too. You looked like you were really fanging it - did you get close to that 30 knot open ocean Nm on that run?


It's funny you should say that because, although it may look fast, I really wasn't going that quick - maybe 25 knots or so.

Here is the GPSTC session from that day;
gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2010-12-11&team=10

You tend to sail faster at Leighton on the port tack (opposite of this vid), as you can follow the troughs and you don't have to sail up the back of swells.

As far as the kiters, the guy who won the race did so by several km, but he was still pretty easy to catch. No doubt kite-race-board design has a long way to go compared to windsurfing race gear, but it remains to be seen whether they will ever be as quick as us.

Personally I think the fact that we ride our boards flat and use a deep fin to generate lateral resistance gives us a big advantage to keep our speed constant in rough water. Kiters have so much more board in the water and so rough water would have to make it much more difficult to keep an efficient trim.

The windsurf record for the crossing is definitely 19 minutes, back in about 90/91 by Anders Bringdal. I'd be pretty confident that the likes of Jesper / Slowy / Volwater could slice a couple of minutes off that these days.

I tell you what; just for a laugh I may have a crack at it myself this week!



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