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Life of modern boards

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Created by GusTee > 9 months ago, 10 Jan 2011
GusTee
NSW, 265 posts
10 Jan 2011 3:09PM
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How long would you expect modern boards to last? Obviously excluding damage in use, transport, etc. People talk about decks going soft, board delaminating, etc due to age. What are some of the things that can go wrong with boards purely from old age?

Boris
261 posts
10 Jan 2011 12:48PM
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GusTee said...

What are some of the things that can go wrong with boards purely from old age?


1) They can grow grey hair
2) Lose hair on top, forcing them to adopt a really bad comb-over
3) They can start to wear tracksuit pants (pulled up too high) with a collared shirt out in public.
4) They can soil themselves at any given moment for no apparent reason
5) They can go really slow and not get out of your way
6) They can start telling you some really boring "back in my day" stories about their asymetrical friends, or siblings with timber centre boards.
7) They'll show a lack of understanding toward modern boards
8) They'll start having arguments out loud...to nobody at all
9) They probably still think its a good idea to have carpet on the bathroom floor.
10) They probably have ice-cream in their freezer that's been there for 12 years

Trousers
SA, 565 posts
10 Jan 2011 3:21PM
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i see plenty of older boards around (and have one myself) which i think are testament that if you look after them, they can power on for a very long time.

i think if you have a quality board, then de-lamination, soft decks and cracking fin-boxes are signs of abuse, not aging.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
10 Jan 2011 5:36PM
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Older boards I have,
looks looks still ok but all setup for mast and straps render them unusable with modern sails.
I did even small modification to the sharp pointing nose -cut out and rounded nicely with fiberglass ( mostly to protect my sails from being perforated)

but the statement above about foots straps and mast bast unresolved

GusTee
NSW, 265 posts
10 Jan 2011 9:45PM
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I've seen lots of old boards from 80's and 90's in good health. What I don't know is if they sat not being used for extended periods of time and hence the condition.

All things considered, are the new boards (late 2000s) built to last? How long would you expect to keep them for?

Just to draw a comparison, our TV from the 80s still worked as good as the first day 20 years later, till it was replaced for sake of going modern. Any TV we bought after it did not live past 6 years.

What's the go with modern boards?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
10 Jan 2011 9:52PM
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GusTee said...

I've seen lots of old boards from 80's and 90's in good health. What I don't know is if they sat not being used for extended periods of time and hence the condition.

All things considered, are the new boards (late 2000s) built to last? How long would you expect to keep them for?

Just to draw a comparison, our TV from the 80s still worked as good as the first day 20 years later, till it was replaced for sake of going modern. Any TV we bought after it did not live past 6 years.

What's the go with modern boards?


I have two boards that I think are 2005 and 2006 models.

Both are in reasonable condition. I've damaged the 2006 on with some puncture holes that I've patched up. The one most frequently used is getting a bit slippery. I guess it may have a couple of years left in it depending on the amount of use.


It would be great to have a modern shaped plastic board like a Bombora. You can hit them with a hammer and the worst that will happen is the hammer will bounce back and rebound into your face.



petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
11 Jan 2011 1:18AM
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if your technique is bad,and you slap the board down after going over chop/swell

then the bottom of the board will lose it's shape and

delaminate fast[the skin coming away from the blank core]]

what amazes me is people buy new boards + sails, use them maybe 5 times and sell them half price.

a $1000 sail is only worth $500,so $100 per each use which is exobertant!

if you use a board 20 times per year, expect board to last 6/7 years on average.

140 uses divided by $2000, around $14 per use!

so if you buy new, w/surfing can be a deceptively expensive sport.


Mark _australia
WA, 23463 posts
11 Jan 2011 6:43PM
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petermac33 said...


if your technique is bad,and you slap the board down after going over chop/swell

then the bottom of the board will lose it's shape and

delaminate fast[the skin coming away from the blank core]]





How do you explain wavesailing for 3 or 4 seasons on one board with no delam?

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
12 Jan 2011 7:34AM
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wave-boards are built with thicker skin and maybe denser blank core so

will last longer.

but don't quote me on that as i'm only a expert on ct's.

windgeorge
WA, 108 posts
12 Jan 2011 8:13AM
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How long will board last depends how you look after it .Do you flat land jumps ,do drag it up the beach ,leave it on the beach for 6 hrs in 35 deg heat . Tie straps down on roofracks pulled too tight .My rrd is in 2nd year wavesailing in gero ,and still going stong as i look after it ,only use one board in all conditions.

GusTee
NSW, 265 posts
12 Jan 2011 3:27PM
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Part of the reason I asked was because some of the second hand stuff is exceptionally cheap, as petermac pointed out. A $2500 board is about half price a year later. If they are only good for 2 years (for argument's sake), then half price board is not a bargain as it's only got half the life left.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
12 Jan 2011 3:32PM
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I think half price for a year old board is a reasonable price. Perhaps its a bit cheap and that reflects its condition and use. Best to check the board for any damage and repairs. If its been repaired then try to find out if its water tight.

A way to see if its got water in it would be to find off the manufacturers website what the weight of the board is. Then weigh the board. The weight of the board will probably be more than what the manufacturer stated but if its two or more kgs more than the official weight and there are repairs then there is a fair chance there is some water in the hull.

Mark _australia
WA, 23463 posts
12 Jan 2011 1:02PM
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petermac33 said...

wave-boards are built with thicker skin and maybe denser blank core so

will last longer.

but don't quote me on that as i'm only a expert on ct's.




Many are not any thicker, and cores are the same. I have an ultralight waveboard that is same construction as a freeride and after 4 years of really being hammered (bloke before me gave it heaps, I've landed 30footers flat often) it was a bit soft in a small area which was easy to repair. It was just a crack in the divinycell so I replaced the sandwich layer - cost $50 and 3 evenings. Now it will go another two years easy.

I also have a 2005 EVO which does have stronger construction than a freeride - it has 2 layers of divinycell sandwich and wood. After 5 years being thrashed it is as new.

From that I surmise that you are not going to cause delam just going over chop and slapping it. It will eventually, as all boards will fall apart one day - but certainly not "delam fast" as you said



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