I'm after a 100l for coastal sailing, some small waves, some blasting, for 6.2 and 5.3 sails. Replacing an old 100l 65cm freestyle as my largest board at 70kg, so early planing is priority, then onshore wave handling, then speed/upwind. Control not really a factor as have smaller boards. looking between these Kode and the dyno - but the dyno is only 62cm wide, so it feels like it's going to be a bit smaller than either my current or the Kode.
anyone sailed both who can give a comparison, especially with early planing on a 6m sail?
I trialed a Dyno 95 as a light wind board in flat, choppy water with a 5.5 Gator and a 32 cm weed fin.
I didn't think it was particularly good or bad at early planing, kind of normal. It did need some input but that is expected from a board like this.
Given that onshore wave handling is second on your list, it might be a good fit as I felt that the board is heavily wave oriented and suits that better than blasting.
It was a V3 I believe so there might be a newer generation.
I had the blue Dyno in 115 L, now have the new Kode 125 L. I've never tried either in single fin mode, only ever as a thruster in the waves. The Kode is wavier than the Dyno. The Dyno is more comfortable than the Kode over chop at max blasting speed. Bit hard to say which one is earlier planing as I sold the Dyno before I bought the Kode. But both plane earlier than a wave board. Both are great boards. I'd choose the Kode because I'm more wave riding biased. But if I was more high speed blasting biased with only occasional wave riding then I think the Dyno would be a perfect choice.
I own an RRD PowerMove 104 board. I am answering to this thread, despite it is about Kode vs. Dyno, because I think the PowerMove is quite an interesting board for one looking for a general purpose / blasting / onshore / lightwind board.
The PowerMove was introduced in order to replace the FreestyleWave in its bigger sizes. In fact, the latest FSW Y26 have become a bit too much wave oriented boards, loosing the "do-it-all" behaviour of former models (up to Y25) and expecially their early planing attitude. I owned FSW Y26 in both 90 and 104 lts, so I could test by myself: while the 90 is a really versatile board in its proper conditions (4.2 - 5.3, I am keepimg it), the 104 was quite a slow to plane board in 5.7 conditions (unless probably for an heavyweight in 20+ kts). RRD lately dropped the largest FSW Y26 sizes (104 and 114) and introduced the PowerMove in 96, 104 and 114. In doing so they shaped the PowerMove with some freestyle traits, such as a rather bulky tail without wingers and a more parallel outline. As a result, the PowerMove is a super early planer, and this is the reason why I think such shape is well worth the attention of people considering early planing as #1 priority.
In my experience, in marginal 5.7 conditions with the PowerMove 104 you still have to point downwind, move your weight back and close the sail in order to plane, but if you do so planing is immediate, while with the FSW Y26 you also needed a proper gust and a lot of patience. In one occasion I tested the PowerMove against a Quatro Power 105 and really it's in a different league in early planing - probably it's the same but reversed in true sideshore waveriding conditions though, so better know what one is looking for.
I have a 2013 kode 95l and a new dyno in 85L , im 68kgs. The old kode is a great light wind blaster , single fin and early planning, It looks more of a freestyle shape to me but have no idea about the newer kodes.
Thanks all. Seems like maybe the dyno is maybe a bit well-powered blasting focused. Im sure it would be blast to hoon around on, but I'm not convinced that it's ideal when I've got a 90l waveboard below which will carry a 5.3 if there's enough wind - I'm looking to maximise the bottom end of the wind range.
Geo - I wonder if the new Duotone FSW has gone the same route as the rrd - it looks to have gone to a chunkier tail with thicker rails. I hadn't thought about the powermove as it looked a bit flatwater focused, but that might be my misconception.
Hi ChrisA UK,probably you are right, on the Duotone Ultra Freewave webpage they say "... the basis of the development was a potent new school freestyle board, which automatically led to maximum acceleration and pop. This shape was then tuned so that it also functions as a capable wave board in logo-high side-on waves" so the concept seems to be the same.
I have been talking to many buddies here looking for the perfect "do-it-all, lighter wind b&j/blaster board", many of them using and/or suggesting a freestyle board even for small wave work and even if one isn't doing any freestyle, because such boards are conceived for immediate planing, which is the main requirement in light onshore stuff, and still are plenty manouvrable. So when I had a better look at the PowerMove, with its wider thicker tail compared to more "classic" FSW boards, I was convinced: a FSW board with freestyle-like immediate pop.About whether RRD or Duotone have gone the furthest along this path, I really can't say.
The only thing I would make different about this board is, since it has to be versatile enough to be used for some freestyle and small waves and also flatwater blasting with a larger sail and twin straps in the back, then I'd fit it with a longer mast track, as it comes with a short one and in a "freestyle position" quite back and close to the front straps. In fact for my usual chop/small waves, 5.7 as bigger sail, I position the mast foot in the front half of the track. So to say the freestyle DNA shows a lot in the PowerMove.
Anyone who wants to use a full bore new school freestyle board in logo high waves is dreaming. Duotine marketing bullcr*p
Imo there's nothing to like from a dedicated freestyle board unless you're... freestyling.
Even the idea of a fat tail in a FSW board makes me stay away from it but everyone has different preferences of course.
I think most FSW boards would fit your description but not a freestyle board. Some FSW are more focused on blasting and control, others more on small onshore waves.
From my experience:
JP FSW carbon: fast, lots of control, not great in waves but still turns ok'ish. Early planing.
Tabou 3S (classic) carbon: slower, love it for light wind but terrible in overpowered conditions for a lightweight sailor, not great in waves, doesn't turn well without heaps of input (or lack of technique lol). Super early planing.
Dyno (trial only): slower, turns well, best in waves. Not the earliest planing.
Fanatic Free wave (trial only): long time ago, think somewhat similar to Dyno in terms of characteristics.
