I've broken a batten in my Severne 4 cammed racesail..I was going to remove the batten and try and fix it but not sure how. I don't like using brute force when I don't know what I'm doing..
I took the end out with an alum key then started to try & pull it out with longnose pliers but they are held in by a thin bit of elastic cord around the end. I had a go at prising that off but could see I could easily break it..
I assume you just have to get the cord off then pull it out? It broke 1/4 of the way from the cam so if I get the end bit out I still have to get the other cammed end piece out.I tried to reach into the cam pocket but it's hard to get at..
It's a 2006 racesail..I thought it was Reflex but not sure now..??
unfortunately i have been through this experience a few times 
joewindsurfer.blogspot.com/2012/05/having-my-batten-repaired.html
joewindsurfer.blogspot.ca/2013/06/fixing-my-batten-what-again.html
locally having the shop do it was NOT that expensive ...
This way of removing the broken bit worked for me.
www.peterman.dk/windsurf-removing-broken-batten-1000.htm
Mmm looking at that maybe I should get a sailmaker to take it out..I wonder if is worth fixing or just buy a new one if possible.I think I broke it derigging.
I find it really hard to get the cambers off that sail.
I let the downhaul off really slowly & a little outhaul until they pop off.I know this isn't ideal but I just don't have the strength to pop them off..The cambers were lying the wrong way so I pushed on it to pop it the opposite side halfway through that process so it would come off easier..Dur.. Won't do that again. I'll make sure it is popped the right way before I start derigging and I'll have to persist and see if I can find anyway to do it with my hands as they say..
I was going to use the sail tomorrow but I assume it could get worse?
The only way I knew was that someone pointed it out -There is a slit in the batten pocket where it broke.It wasn't under tension at the time so it looked ok.
Can you use other manufacturers battens to replace it or do I have to chase Severne? I hope I can get one that will fit as its an old sail but still in good nick.
as mentioned earlier - bin there n dunn that
i posted something on rigging cambered sails after seeing someone have even MORE issues than i
joewindsurfer.blogspot.com/2013/06/rigging-cambered-race-sail.html
Severne?? what happened to your KA !
Hmm I never really like popping the cams off when I derig. Would rather take it off one by one 
Select to expand quoteKevinD002 said..
Severne?? what happened to your KA !
Hmm I never really like popping the cams off when I derig. Would rather take it off one by one
I still have it - it's for sale..I'm glad you reminded me as it looks like I'll need a 6.6m tomorrow and I'd forgotten I still had the KA. I'll use it tomorrow..
When you say take them off one by one you mean just pop each off by hand? I know that's how your supposed to but this sail is really tight..
Mm never have any hassles with the KA and it's only 3 cams..Wow I can sail tomorrow and if I put it in to get fixed or it take a while to fix it it doesn't matter 
strong case in point here for a no cam fast sail design ( i like the ncx ) being the correct match to the end user.
reflex only came out 2011 so a 2006 model sail will be an older , more cantankerous and possibly very worn model.
given some of the past posts and board combos you use i suspect cams were never going to be the optimal match to your sailing requirements.. learning to gybe, looking for light sail handling but with a squirt of speed added to the mix? its hard to see how you ended up on semi technical cam sails in the first place.
Select to expand quoteReflex Films said..
strong case in point here for a no cam fast sail design ( i like the ncx ) being the correct match to the end user.
reflex only came out 2011 so a 2006 model sail will be an older , more cantankerous and possibly very worn model.
given some of the past posts and board combos you use i suspect cams were never going to be the optimal match to your sailing requirements.. learning to gybe, looking for light sail handling but with a squirt of speed added to the mix? its hard to see how you ended up on semi technical cam sails in the first place.
$... I don't have the money to buy new ..Got 2 sails in good nick for $400...Between the horse , sailboarding,and other interests + bills $ only goes so far..
I was worried about the full on race sail but so far it has been great although I do prefer the 3 cammed Overdrives.
If I'm still sailing when I retire with more $ might splurge and buy a set of NCX's..
Select to expand quotesboardcrazy said..Reflex Films said..
strong case in point here for a no cam fast sail design ( i like the ncx ) being the correct match to the end user.
reflex only came out 2011 so a 2006 model sail will be an older , more cantankerous and possibly very worn model.
given some of the past posts and board combos you use i suspect cams were never going to be the optimal match to your sailing requirements.. learning to gybe, looking for light sail handling but with a squirt of speed added to the mix? its hard to see how you ended up on semi technical cam sails in the first place.
$... I don't have the money to buy new ..Got 2 sails in good nick for $400...Between the horse , sailboarding,and other interests + bills $ only goes so far..
I was worried about the full on race sail but so far it has been great although I do prefer the 3 cammed Overdrives.
If I'm still sailing when I retire with more $ might splurge and buy a set of NCX's..
Or Ezzy Cheetahs. These should be entering the secondhand market about now. Easy sailing -easy setup (no downhaul tool required).
Moved from 64cm 120 Litre Freeride board riding cammed sails to Stbd Atomic 110 Freemove board that is 75cm wide with NCX sail. Best move for my standard, nearly getting every jibe, planning or not. Enjoying sailing much more knowing if I'm putting I can easily turn around without a swim and that painful low wind water start.
not trying to sell you a new sail.
like for like modern freeride sails used shoul d be cheaper than a cam sail. choose your brand NP , Ezzy make great freeride sails. i just happen to think the ncx is extra special - and even a 4 year old one will totally rock.
the inustry has done tself a small dis service allowing so many progressing windsurfers to go full cam race program rather than taking the more complex decision to place these people on the correct gear.
Select to expand quotesboardcrazy said..KevinD002 said..
Severne?? what happened to your KA !
Hmm I never really like popping the cams off when I derig. Would rather take it off one by one
I still have it - it's for sale..I'm glad you reminded me as it looks like I'll need a 6.6m tomorrow and I'd forgotten I still had the KA. I'll use it tomorrow..
When you say take them off one by one you mean just pop each off by hand? I know that's how your supposed to but this sail is really tight..
Mm never have any hassles with the KA and it's only 3 cams..Wow I can sail tomorrow and if I put it in to get fixed or it take a while to fix it it doesn't matter
I just realised the problem is the bottom of the luff gets snagged on the ring of the extension as you release the donwhaul and that stops it from letting off enough..It has actually broken the fabric there.I have a hell of a time unsnagging it..
Its' the only sail I have that does that and it had been a long time since I used it so I had forgotten the problem! KevinD002 has given me some tips to try and unsnag it..Hopefully once I get the batten fixed that will prevent it happening again as I'll be able to let the downhaul off more with the outhaul still on .
Select to expand quotesboardcrazy said..
I take it the NCX's are a newish release? That is I haven't seen any 2nd hand?
They have been around for a while but they are so good for free riding that they sell like hot cakes!
Select to expand quoteWindxtasy said..sboardcrazy said..
I take it the NCX's are a newish release? That is I haven't seen any 2nd hand?
They have been around for a while but they are so good for free riding that they sell like hot cakes!
I've only tried the NCX (2012 I think) in 7.5 and hot damn was I impressed for non cam sail!
Q) why leave outhaul on when removing downhaul ?
I have NOT seen that documented by ANY sail vendors
Select to expand quotejoe windsurf said..
Q) why leave outhaul on when removing downhaul ?
I have NOT seen that documented by ANY sail vendors
It has instructions on the sail and I know you should do that. As you release downhaul the outhaul tightens so I let out just a little outhaul at a time to try and counteract that tightening.
okay , for a freerace like that with 2 cambers = possible
NOT for full race with more cambers - i cannot imagine that
butt what do i know
Tibor got the batten out for me and showed me how to fix it so that's a job over Easter.Thanks!
Will also keep in mind comments here and see if I can get it off without letting outhaul off. I'll just have to unsnag the luff so the downhaul will release..Hopefully that will be possible.
I noticed it was easy to pop the cams off the 7.5 m overdrive as per instructions yesterday - the 6.6m has 4 cams and harder- probably because it's an older sail so not so user friendly.
for me 4 cambers is a full-on race
would be almost impossible to remove manually while outhauled
as i mention in my posts, i loosen downhaul about 10 cm
manually remove bottom camber GENTLY
THEN pop the others OFF
works for me every time
AND will try the Ezzy trick next time i de-rig a free-race with 2 cams
Good Luck Ya'll
HAPPY EASTER
enjoy some time OFF i hope
my American Friends don't all have time off !!!
