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How to identify age of board via serial number

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Created by redrabbitz > 9 months ago, 15 Oct 2021
redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
15 Oct 2021 8:43PM
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Finding it difficult how to find the age of a J.P. Super Sport 136ltr.

Please reply with how to identify the following serial number of a particular board.

Serial No. 10121366205.

Someone out there would certainly know the sequence.

Thank you.

Manuel7
1318 posts
15 Oct 2021 6:29PM
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I would contact JP if Google can't help.

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
15 Oct 2021 9:41PM
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Appreciate that. ??

I've contacted J.P. direct. Awaiting their response.??

Mark _australia
WA, 23450 posts
15 Oct 2021 7:04PM
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Appears to be one of the ones that does not designate a year - certainly not as obvious as most Cobra serials.
Google images usually works as they change paint every year...

Madge
NSW, 471 posts
16 Oct 2021 7:03AM
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There website does have some archived catalogues.

Put a photo on here, someone will tell you.

h20
VIC, 458 posts
16 Oct 2021 7:40AM
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I found there is often an sequence check the first couple of numbers often indicate it

is it a 2010 ?

jp-australia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/JP_Brochure_English__2010-1.pdf

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
16 Oct 2021 8:25AM
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It's been a fascinating host of replies.
Having been in direct contact with J.P. & ONLY supplying the serial numbers to them.
They replied that it's a Super Sport Pro 2013 @ 136 ltrs according to their data base records.

I did ask how the sequence was broken down trying to understand how the serial numbers are placed.
10 12 136 6205

10 is that the Cobra factory?
12 is that the DOM?(date of manufacture)?
136 guessing it's the litre vol.?
6205?

Don't understand why J.P. would NOT reveal the "method in their madness" scenario how the numbers are positioned???
What's the big trade secret?
Just curious how the sequence is identified.

Anyone that actually knows 100% please clarify further.

Thanks to all.??

stehsegler
WA, 3543 posts
16 Oct 2021 8:49AM
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redrabbitz said..
Don't understand why J.P. would NOT reveal the "method in their madness" scenario how the numbers are positioned???


Because it's a windsurf company... I bet the serial number is almost an after thought. Boards are not like an electrical product where the production numbers are in the millions and the products often go through revisions while mid production. Bet yes I would agree with you. Having a meaning full serial number would be helpful.

Mark _australia
WA, 23450 posts
16 Oct 2021 9:10AM
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My guess would be if its a 2013, that 1012 is Dec12 manufacture, 136L
Anyway, if they're not answering your last question I would think they're too busy for pure curiosity questions?

RichardG
WA, 3758 posts
16 Oct 2021 10:54AM
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Quote from:

www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=286635&utm_source=seabreeze.com.au

"All the boards build at the Cobra factory in Thailand (Fanatic, Tabou, Naish, Starboard, F2...) follow the same pattern: the first 2 letters identify the maker and the two next digits give the year.


For example, the serial number of ...Fanatic Freewave 2012 starts with "FA12...".

RRD and Angulo boards have a slightly different pattern, they insert the board model between the company identifier and the year. For example a RRD Freewave 80 2011 has a serial number starting with "RDFW8011". I think Angulo uses 4 letters to identify the company.

JP boards have a completely different pattern. I am not really sure, but I think the year follows the first 4 digits. A 2007 board would have a serial number like "92347..."

Testing this for your board arrives at "101213..." since this is for a 2013 model, manufactured sometime in 2012, possibly Oct. 2012 I assume.

Since you have a reply from JP and if it looks like the Supersport from this catalog then it is verified: jp-australia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/JP_Brochure_English__2013-1.pdf

Mark _australia
WA, 23450 posts
16 Oct 2021 12:46PM
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Ooops yeah the 10th month being October....
Like right now....

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
16 Oct 2021 4:06PM
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Thanks to all the welcome replies.

BTW a friend of mine was looking at purchasing this particular board. It's not my board. The current owner stated the board was 5yrs old. My friend & l thought it was older, hence the reason for jumping into this site to research further information. Just wish this blasted serial number Identification process would have been a lil' more simplified.

Is life ever simple?

There are even more complicated JP serial numbers that make stuff all sense to EVERY one of the comments made above, by all who have submitted replies.

Thank you to all & best regards from Sam & Redrabbitz.

Life can be an identity crisis!

Madge
NSW, 471 posts
16 Oct 2021 7:17PM
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Best thing is to take a photo then go onto their website or look at other JP board on here that are for sale.

Company's like JP usually change their graphics every year so you should be able to pick it out.

It might be 5 years old, just sat in a shop for another 5 before being bought.

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
16 Oct 2021 8:29PM
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The board's for sale on Gumtree, Bass Coast, Victoria. Looks like a great board should anyone be interested.
Fully aware that the board could have taken 5yrs in a store b4 it sold. Then a buyer, unaware of it's true age buys it as a new board which it is but really isn't.

Hence why it's so awkward with those weird complicated type "VIN" numbers similar to cars (which are relatively easy to read) aren't easy to read as on Brand name Board.

The serial number would identify the DOM(including month) how many were produced & from which factory they came from. Most (nearly all) are made o/s at the Thailand plant others in Vietnam.

See where we're coming from?

LMCT need to apply age of a car, which is a vehicle, a boat as a vessel needs same, any water craft these days has identifiable numbers tracing back origins.

TheTank
124 posts
17 Oct 2021 5:16AM
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RichardG said..

Testing this for your board arrives at "101213..." since this is for a 2013 model, manufactured sometime in 2012, possibly Oct. 2012 I assume.



Have got 6 JP's all from different modelyears. My oldest is a 2010, the newest is a 2020. I'm pretty sure the serialnumber reads as follows:

The first 4 digits are the production date in the MMDD format. My boards all start with 10 or 11. Followed by digits in the range from 04 to 21. The next 2 digits are the modelyear. The last 5 digits are either the Cobra productionumber or JP's internal modelnumber. But my guess it's the production number when looking at my boards. The 1004 I have has the lowest 5 digits the 1121 I have has the highest 5 digits.

So for your board 10121366205 this works out as:

1012 = october 12th
13 = modelyear 2013
66205 = The 66205th board produced by Cobra that year or it just translates to JP's code for a Supersport 136 Pro Edition.

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
17 Oct 2021 9:30AM
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Thumbs up to The Tank.??

Best explained to date!

Begins to make sense.

We've found another weird serial number. (Just need to retrieve it from another site)
Maybe you could explain it.

Back in few minutes......

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
17 Oct 2021 9:38AM
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Could you explain this Serial number. 1163849708.

It's a board my friend is interested in & if you're able to identify it's model & name.

It's a J.P. that's a given.

Ms. Pauline Hanson please explain.....

redrabbitz
VIC, 65 posts
18 Oct 2021 7:26AM
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So according to The Tank serial number would be broken down to the following: 1163849708.

11 is November.

63 is days in the month???

84 model year 2084??? Or was that 1984. Don't think Jason P. has left the cot yet.

9708 amount of boards produced.

Balloney!!! Sorry The Tank it's thumbs down ??

No one yet has supplied the correct information!

Mark _australia
WA, 23450 posts
18 Oct 2021 7:35AM
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Google images.
Then confirmed by downloading JP old catalogue.

Or size, the length and width will usually narrow it down to a couple of consecutive years - and if you pay $500 for a good 14 model or $500 for a good 15 model does it matter?

I don;t think there has ever been a board I could not date in about 5mins doing that ^^^^^^^

Far less stress



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