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Help with jibe

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Created by shmish > 9 months ago, 25 Aug 2020
shmish
146 posts
25 Aug 2020 11:33AM
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I've improved quite a bit this year but I still miss a lot of jibes. Today I felt like my sail was getting backwinded when flipping the sail and I was falling backwards. I'm not sure if the sail was actually backwinded, that's just what it felt like.

I'm wondering what might be some common errors leading to what I've described. One thing that I should improve on is coming out of my jibe I should probably be on more of a broad reach.

Im looking into getting an action camera to record my jibes but that likely won't happen until next spring.

thanks

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8225 posts
25 Aug 2020 1:35PM
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Maybe you're flipping the sail too late?
If you're powered up flip it earlier than you think..If you're subplaning you can sail out clew first , get your balance and then flip..

remery
WA, 3709 posts
25 Aug 2020 3:57PM
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Yep^A lot of people I see having trouble gybing are just hanging onto the sail too long trying to stay in control. The board slows so the apparent wind increases, so you lean back more and the board slows even more
. When you flip the sail it gets ripped out of your hands. Just go as fast as you can manage, keep the board as flat as you can, lean into the turn and let go of the sail ... see if you can clean up the mess. If it works well there is sometimes so little wind you have to give it a push to flip.

KBoom
NSW, 5 posts
25 Aug 2020 7:24PM
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shmish said..
I've improved quite a bit this year but I still miss a lot of jibes. Today I felt like my sail was getting backwinded when flipping the sail and I was falling backwards. I'm not sure if the sail was actually backwinded, that's just what it felt like.

I'm wondering what might be some common errors leading to what I've described. One thing that I should improve on is coming out of my jibe I should probably be on more of a broad reach.

Im looking into getting an action camera to record my jibes but that likely won't happen until next spring.

thanks


You're right shmish, come out broad to keep on the plane, you can always head up later when your back in the straps.
When carving use that rail and keep the rig forward and into the turn, start to open out the sail as you head downwind.
Then start the flip just past downwind.

powersloshin
NSW, 1836 posts
25 Aug 2020 8:19PM
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it happens when you are going fast compared to the real wind, need to move the front hand and lean as far forward as possible, and bring your rig accross before flipping. There is a foil jibe tute talking about this...

Jetlag
NSW, 194 posts
26 Aug 2020 9:31AM
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As George mentions it's not uncommon for your apparent wind to turn to zero or even back towards you as you bearaway at speed. If you just let go of the back hand the sail will just sit there, or even worse, backwind towards you. To keep forward flow over the sail you pretty much wave it like a flag. Sweep the sail across in front of you and then release the back hand and snap the sail back in the other direction whilst doing the front hand swap.
Note as well that to do this you can't be hanging off the sail to power you through the turn. This tends to make you hang on for too long and over rotate. Commit your weight to the turn and stay forward enough so that you don't have to hang off the sail for stability. Enjoy the improvement journey, it never ends!!

Manuel7
1318 posts
26 Aug 2020 9:25AM
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Yes flip early while keeping weight into the turn. Practice duck jibes, they are great at developing a feel for the apparent wind.

Shifu
QLD, 1992 posts
27 Aug 2020 11:15AM
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Jetlag said..
To keep forward flow over the sail you pretty much wave it like a flag. Sweep the sail across in front of you and then release the back hand and snap the sail back in the other direction whilst doing the front hand swap.


Fascinating. Looking forward to playing with this idea. First new info I've seen on gybing in ages.

Dcharlton
320 posts
1 Sep 2020 8:31AM
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Best thing I ever did was LOOK WHERE I WAS GOING instead of looking at the rig. It was a strange to do but it's amazing how your body just knows what to do when you look where you are going and NOT at your rig or board. Made a HUGE difference for me and made the whole thing a $%^& load of fun!!!

Trust yourself, look at where you are going, not your boom, you'll be amazed at how it all comes together.

DC

swoosh
QLD, 1928 posts
1 Sep 2020 11:38AM
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I was having a similar issue, and the thing that worked for me, was just making sure that I really reach back on the boom with my back hand as I go into the gybe.



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