I've only been sailing since last summer, can't water start yet, still using the uphaul.
Using a large sail, when the wind picks up, with the rig in the water with the clew into the wind, it can be a struggle to pull the sail out of the water.
If I've fallen in the water, I swim the mast into the wind. Then uphaul.
If I'm standing, I can rotate the board with the rig in the water acting like an anchor. I setup the mast on the rail perpendicular to the board. I stand on the opposite rail, which helps lift the mast out of the water, but with clew into the wind the rig can sometimes flip out of control.
Any tips for making life easier?
Also, if the mast has been in the water for a while it feels heavier perhaps because the mast is now filled with water? Is the mast supposed to be water tight with the o-ring on the extension and plug at the top?
I'm no expert but its dicey trying to uphaul with the mast tip into the wind unless the wind is very light.The wind gets the rig & creates havoc. Try & get the mast lying so the tip is downwind and then use your body weight to lift.Lean/fall back until it starts to come out.Several knots tied every few feet in the uphaul give you something to grab onto and make it easier.
If the mast is pointing into the wind, then pull on it a little bit to get part of the sail out of the water, and then let the wind spin you around 180 degrees. Note that the sail is still partially submerged.
Then when your back is to the wind, do your uphaul as normal.
Good luck, you'll get there ![]()
The luff sleeve (the part of the sail where the mast goes) is probably filling with water, not the mast itself. It will drain out when you lift up the sail. That's one reason why we try to avoid letting the sail fall all the way in if possible.
Good luck and keep up the good work!![]()
My advice is to learn to water start as soon as possible.
Up-hauling blows chunks and being good at it does not help you sail better or teach you to water start eventually.
Spend the time learning to water-start, and all your time on the water will be much more rewarding.
Yeah, but that's a good time to learn.
I learnt to up-haul in 1981, when I sailed Wally's for a few months, then did it again in 1994 when I came back to sailing.
I soon learnt to water start and have rarely up-hauled since.
Uphauling is a handy skill. Even if you do not uphaul successfully you can uphaul to get the sail and board into a better waterstart position if for example you fall off in mid gybe and the sail is to leeward. Yeah waterstarts are better but sometimes the water feels a bit sharky or its a bit cold.
My advice for what its worth, when uphauling a big sail is to take it as easy as possible, uphauling a bit and letting the board spin around, taking little steps around the mast till the sail is dead downwind with the board across the wind and you can uphaul without the sail catching the wind and pushing it down.
Hey Mr. original poster, I have missed where in the topic you describe the board (size), the sail size, conditions (waves or not), your weight, and the wind speed.
The video is nice and all, but doesn't help as they're using a barge and no wind. It would be useful for beginners on the first 2-3 lessons, that's all. You will find the technique required for uphauling different on a small board when overwhelmed with waves and sinking. The sense of "urgency" when pulling is different on a small board.
Anyhow, guys are right: wait for the rig to gibe. AND if you're using a very small board for your weight, and that there is fair wind, try to pick up waterstarting. But do not do it full-time, for 2 reasons. First, I have seen people try the whole summer, and they get frustrated after a while. Do sail around, have fun, then spend 15-20 minutes trying, then get out again.
Second reason is that you need to be able to uphaul anyways for most boards, in case the wind dies, say. Do persevere at it, find a Tube that match your conditions, esp. size of board, wind, etc. You'll get there.
Back to waterstarting, when I teach I find it easier to learn neck-deep on a nice on-shore breeze - pick your conditions for learning. Don't go try when you're overpowered, nor off-shorish. I prefer teaching in a strong wind and smaller sail, than a huge rig - people get it faster that way.
When conditions are right, people learn pretty fast.
Now, if what you're sailing are larger boards - and hey that's fine I use them too in 15+ knots, then just persevere at it, that's all. There too, you'll improve faster the gibe trick in strong winds and small rig, rather than fighting huge 10m rigs. You'll learn on those to get out of the way fast.
Have a great summer!
GusTee
congrats on the most original username on here for a while ![]()
I agree with much of the above but - it is never to early to learn to waterstart.
If it is windy enough to make it a little tiring to hold onto the rig, when you do have a prang, attempt a waterstart first if the rig is upwind of the board - just to fly the rig in the right position and maybe get the back foot up, not really trying to get it to lift you out of the water.
Then uphaul as normal.
It will help a lot later. Most people wait to learn it until they pretty much have to....
I went on holiday somewhere really windy, and decided to really learn how to gybe. But I ended up learning how to waterstart instead...it can work for you, too ![]()
Thanks for all the tips, will give them a try. I need a lot of luck to line up a weekend with the right conditions. At this rate, I think it's going to take a few years to get any good at it.
In addition to others' advice:-
Don't stand on the rail, but have your feet either side of the mast when uphauling. Apart from maximising stability, it gives you the leverage to turn the board with your feet.
Feet either side of the mast, bend your knees or if its really windy start off by squatting on the board and lean back until the sail has rotated so that it lays directly downwind, keep leaning back against the sail and dont rush, just be patient and the sail will free itself.
Be patient when you learn to waterstart too, the more you push and pull at the sail the harder it is to get it to release from the water.
Easy uphaul - do they really work? If they work well I'm surprised as to why it's not popular, I've never seen anyone with it before. Who uses them?
A point which I don't think anyone else has caught. You stated taht you 'stand on the rail' which helps lift the sail out of the water. Stop that!
Don't let your heels hang over the edge, as soon as the sail starts to come out of the water, the board will roll underneath you and you'll fall backwards.
Keep your toes about level with the mast, you'll have less distance to shuffle the back foot forward once the mast reaches near vertical.
The extra weight comes from the luff sleeve filling with water. Once you've lifted the mast up and the sleeve is all out of the water, let the clew sit on the water for a few seconds, while the sleeve empties itself. Usually, all over your feet.
Good luck!
Mainly because water-starting is a lot more popular.
If I was sailing 11m marqee's on a floaty board in no wind, I would use an Easy-Uphaul.