I am annoyed that Guy Cribb will run a wave clinic at Gnaraloo next October. Too remote, too dangerous, too crowded already, and where will we find an unspoilt wilderness wave spot when all of them have been used for clinics / comps / commercialisation / video'd???? This is one of the last ones left!!!! [}:)]
Previously a pro surf comp at Gnaraloo was canceled due to a petition to stop it, and I think that may be the go in this instance. Only my personal opinion though, but seems there are some like minded people out there.
So....... who thinks there should NOT be clinic at Gnaraloo?
Who thinks I am on the wrong track?
let them run the clinic.dont worrie they will get nailed and never come back ever again. they will be having night sweats for the rest of there lifes . go around the bubble go around the bubble arararararararararararar
Only just started out "wave sailing" in some ****ty whitewater so I haven't had to deal with the frustration of being dropped in on. (Good luck to anyone that think's I can manouvre well enought to avoid them 
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Understand your point of view but we can't want the sport to grow on one hand and chase people away on the other.
More media coverage, more schools, more of anything that creates more windsurf buzz is good and it might just dissuade those considering the darkside.
I'm guessing you'd rather be sharing your spots with fellow poley's than being overun by yet more kiters.
Like bp say's a few waves like the one in Laurie's mild day thread and those not good enough will become dedicated flat water sailors forever and Guy will run out of functional gear in 3 days.
It's one of the dumbest things I've heard of. Hope his indemnity insurance is up for it!!
There's plenty of other spots on the WA coastline more suited to a wave clinic. Teaching people to wavesail at Gnaraloo is a bit like teaching someone to surf at Teahupoo...total insanity 
It won't do much for the profile of the sport if someone dies trying it.
I'm assuming it is an advanced clinic for ppl who have wave experience
So assuming that the people attending are up for it... yes or no? I still say no for the reasons in my O.P
Maybe you should go and learn something 
Also I thought there were heaps of spots in WA other than Gnaraloo.
Can't help finding the localism and perceived ownership of spots in WA a bit funny. It must be nice to have so many people to sail with you'd turn new-comers away.
i just got back from teaching a newbie to wavesail up at gnaraloo.
It was a harsh experience costing him a full rig and a farken long swim round the bombie at sunset.
If i had a clue as to how little wave experience he had i prolly wouldnt have taken him with us.
However I reckon he learnt more in those 10 days than he has learnt in his 10 yr windsurfing career.
He's now a pretty good windsurf photographer 
let em go. the carnage will keep them away in the future if the swell pick up and the tide is low 
the ramifications of the euros bitching about trashing gear on the euro forums and all the shark sightings will do their job nicely.
also squidlips the break can only handle about 15ppl b4 it gets dangerous particularly when the swell is up.
I don't think it's localism or ownership. It's just a dumb idea.
Why do people have to cash in on it?
id vote no.
but in saying that it would probably be safer then having a bunch of sailors show up on their own and take on a wave that is out of their league.
Maybe they could provide some rescue equipment for the station. Hopefully this would help avoid the unfortunte circumstances that happend up there this time last year.
Here's a response from the man himself
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=55577&whichpage=2&replies=31&PageSize=30&mxPages=2
let 'em watch the school sharks feeding on the reef at sunrise that will scare em off (it was enough to make me think a billion times)
"Never been to WA. It sounds like a different world over there, with heaps of people windsurfing and tourists coming from all over the world to sail. In the rest of the country we're happy to see new/more people turn up to our spots these days. Ok, so it's different at this particular location (which is what the thread is about, so fair enough) but this isn't the first thread that has had people from WA saying they don't want tourists getting in their way." - Squid Lips
Slips - yes it is different - i lived there for 5 years during the 90's - imagine your fav spot being invaded, which is fine if there is room but some times there is not.....(heres where I dip into Euro bashing) they are here for a short time....some are not here to make friends and sometimes they treat the locals without much respect by not playing by the rules
As a slalom sailer it didnt bother me - but the wave guys cop it hard - as the euro gumbies who have never ridden anything bigger than a bowwave of a tinny come to grips with WA - I witnessed numerous near collisions at a lot of different spots over the years
In particular Gnarloo is a spot that deserves a lot of respect - and it has limited space and limited facilities - so why take a whole bunch of people their (i suspect its a bragging issue) when Coros, Lano etc exist
After all what is the difference between that group and any other group of mates who go there and sail their arms off.
They might actually be better "behaved" than some of us locals ;-)
I was a learner the first time I sailed there but I was young and stupid so it didnt worry me (It was the first place I ever sailed in the open ocean after learning at Carnarvon). Now (20+ years later) I know its generally out of my league and would probably only go out there on a small day.
I think there is a big difference between this and a competition where the comp wants to keep everyone else off the wave. These guys will be lining up like everyone else.
Perhaps the station ought to look at whether they are charging enough and maybe some donations to the RFD would be a good idea as well.
Guys response seems pretty good to me but I do hope he has good insurance !
As a "foreigner" who is coming to WA this summer I am hoping that there are plenty of friendly locals and tourists on the water but I can understand why some are worried as spots like Gnaraloo were waves are pretty limited as it's generally one person per wave don't handle crouds well. It's the same over here in New Zealand. But as long as they never go and build a giant vela or ventos resort infront of the break I think one clinic over 1 week or so is not a huge loss.
I would second with Troppo. I think the real issue at hand is that by the pure fact that someone is proposing a wave clinic there some people might assume you can learn to wave sail there.
It does say 'extreme' clinic somewhere in the description but it took me reading it twice to notice it.
While in principle I am not opposed to anyone running a clinic anywhere in the world I would question how safe it really is...
... question: would you run a clinic at a place like Punta Preta in Cabo Verde? Yes?? Would still run it knowing that any help (in the form of a little country practice) in an emergency is at least 2hrs away?
PS: Does anyone know what the situation with first aid is? I think there was talk of getting oxygen, a defibrillator etc. in place or was that too much of a public liability issue for the station owner?
i don't really want to comment on whether it should or shouldn't happen but i'd love to be there with a camera.
i get the feeling the pros are about to hit town.
It's already getting pretty crowded, a wave clinic is just going to make it worse. Maybe if it was later on in the season, but not sep/oct.
Every goddamn session at Gnaraloo is a freaking wave clinic.
It doesn't matter how local or experienced you are.
The difference here is that these dumb wave-tourists are forking out big bucks to the man...
so they can be awarded their badge of honour.
lol.
consistent wind + consistent swell = exploitation.
w.a.= windwankers worldwide exploitation.
lobby your government cause they hate tourist groups giving them funds!!!
bzzzzzzz.... too late.
game over. 
Arnt Clinics for sick people ?
Maquarie Dictionary
1 Any medical centre devoted to a particular type of treatment or health care.
2 One of a number of out patients sections of a hospital for the specialised treatment of a particular condition and disease.
3 A hospital for private patients
4 A Class of medical students which takes place in a hospital ward where pratical instruction is examining and treating patients is given.
Ps Troll topic: Double up on your bookings a the Canarvon hospital you need every bed you can get.
Young Ozzies squeezed out whilst $$$$$ and one off tourist rule the brain.
when the king of the point sails gnarloo he puts on a clinc makes the rest of us look silly really
All HAIL and Praise DA KING for he is our GOD, he charges like Da fallen angel 
and remember his immortal words "hold true when heading out ! " or was it "hold your line" no maybe "hold your course" AAAAGh dam that evil weed, for it fecks with my memory of days long gone past. 
and remember his immortal words "hold true when heading out ! " or was it "hold your line" no maybe "hold your course" AAAAGh dam that evil weed, for it fecks with my memory of days long gone past. 
