Select to expand quoteforceten said..
You should write Jeff at the address I gave you.
hot@hotsails.com
shipping from Perth K7H 0A1, shows a cost of $40.24 to QCity
Find a 13yo to help you out.
the sarcasm is because taking out the battens and folding the sail, is foolish
Sorry, I said Perth by mistake, I don't know why .Obviously my Ontario geography is a bit fuzzy. The location is Dublin, N0K 1E0, a long way from Perth!. This explain the discrepancy in the rates.
I tried to get an online quote from Fedexpress, for a 10 lbs , approx. 84 " long package from N0K 1E0 to Montreal H1L 1J4, but I am unable to get it because they require an account number. I don't know how you did it.Maybe you have an account.
Anyway, I have e-mailed their customer service.
THeir chat line is useless. It is probably an automated service or somebody who does not understand English. They keep asking to rephrase the question and when I do it they keep referring me to the online quotation link, even though I keep telling them them that it doesn' t work.
I don't know which dimensions you gave them, but I suspect that the 84 " length may be considered oversize and translate into a higher rate.
Francone
I'd carefully unstitch the sail. Keep the strands, fold all the individual panels, mail them seperate. Then get a needle and stitch it back together. It will only take you a couple days but will save you a couple bucks easy.
I use the computer web site, I have given you my dimensions prior, for clarity I write again,
fedex tracking and rates. It asks for the info , you fill in the areas, this requires only postal codes and dimensions. It is not a business or commercial rate quote, to obtain that one would have to put the account number in, at that point it 'would' obtain a discount, the particulars of the account will vary, minimum is 4% less.
using n0k 1e0. To h1l 1j4
90" long 6X 6 500 value. 16lbs Drop off at FedEx location .Ground service, leave the residence delivery blank, let them figure it out.
the shipping estimate is $40.40 CDN.
the FedEx location will measure and weight , so it can vary slightly, the length and width account for a surcharge over just the weight.
if your shipper is unable to drop off, they will pick it up, additional charge. You can also have it delivered and held for pickup at your convince at the local FedEx facility. a signature may be required on delivery.
This process is easy, it gets complicated when shipping international.
of note, HSM, dont box sails, they are shipped in a plastic sleeve, bag, I use the same method, i cut cardboard to lay on both ends and tape, covering the end and overlap down say 4", provides some cushion.
The bottom line on this thread is the OP
needs some help, and shipping options, that are quite low. And and and
To realise that removing battens and folding the sail( which considering the Superfreak) won't leave any lasting marks, is while the cheapest way , not the most practical.
im not interested in the forum matron position, it appears to be taken securely.
Other threads are available for your humor.
bottom of the bottom line
Select to expand quoteforceten said..
I use the computer web site, I have given you my dimensions prior, for clarity I write again,
fedex tracking and rates. It asks for the info , you fill in the areas, this requires only postal codes and dimensions. It is not a business or commercial rate quote, to obtain that one would have to put the account number in, at that point it 'would' obtain a discount, the particulars of the account will vary, minimum is 4% less.
using n0k 1e0. To h1l 1j4
90" long 6X 6 500 value. 16lbs Drop off at FedEx location .Ground service, leave the residence delivery blank, let them figure it out.
the shipping estimate is $40.40 CDN.
the FedEx location will measure and weight , so it can vary slightly, the length and width account for a surcharge over just the weight.
if your shipper is unable to drop off, they will pick it up, additional charge. You can also have it delivered and held for pickup at your convince at the local FedEx facility. a signature may be required on delivery.
This process is easy, it gets complicated when shipping international.
of note, HSM, dont box sails, they are shipped in a plastic sleeve, bag, I use the same method, i cut cardboard to lay on both ends and tape, covering the end and overlap down say 4", provides some cushion.
You must have a privileged access to Fedexpress for such a good price.
Finally I called them, because it was impossible to get a quote online unless you have Fedexpress account. They ask for it.
They quoted $ 110.10 from N0K1E0 for a 10 lbs, 82"X 12"x12" package . The price includes a hefty $ 50 oversize surcharge on account of the length.
The width and/or diam may be less than 12", but overall it shouldn't make a difference, because the main culprit is the length.
This is why it is not that foolish, after all, to fold the sail separately and use Greyhound for half the Fedexpress price.
I see that some other people think it is feasible because the Superfreak window is made of PVC.So I'll probably go that way.
Thanks again for your help and involvement
Francone
DUDE...
I called, not sure the number you need , mine is 800 463.3339
automated answers, when questioned about what you want say rate quote.
The auomated message will continue with bla bla bla...say CUSTOMER SERVICE , repeat as necessary until, it acknowledges , something like .. I will transfer your call. At this stage after holding, for me less than 2minutes, you will speak to a human. Ask to haven a rate quote estimate.
when asked if you have a account, say no, and again ask for a quote.
12x12 is far too large, use 6x6 and provide the from too details , weight Etc.
the quote I got to a residence was$44.22 CAD , for ground, the most expensive priority was 1 dat@ $78CAD.
You don't need to talk to anyone.
- Open the fedEx web pack
- Click on "Ship", this opens a window, then click on "Get Rates & Transit Times" (no account number is required)
- Complete your From and To address info. (Dublin Ontario is too small a town - ask your seller to take the package to the FedEx office in Kitchener about 10km away)
- Add weight (10kgs), Enter "shipping date", Select "Drop of package" and click "Get detailed quote"
- Select "Your packaging" and enter Length (230cm) x Width (20cm) x Height (20cm). Add value of the sail and click on "Continue"
- Click on "End of day (1 business day) / fedEx Ground / $22.55
- click on Ship
- Complete Address info and click "continue"
- Complete shipment details and click "continue"
- Complete payment details and click "continue"
- Complete Confirmation info
Select to expand quoteforceten said..
DUDE...
I called, not sure the number you need , mine is 800 463.3339
automated answers, when questioned about what you want say rate quote.
The auomated message will continue with bla bla bla...say CUSTOMER SERVICE , repeat as necessary until, it acknowledges , something like .. I will transfer your call. At this stage after holding, for me less than 2minutes, you will speak to a human. Ask to haven a rate quote estimate.
when asked if you have a account, say no, and again ask for a quote.
12x12 is far too large, use 6x6 and provide the from too details , weight Etc.
the quote I got to a residence was$44.22 CAD , for ground, the most expensive priority was 1 dat@ $78CAD.
Maybe Fedexpress USA got lost in the ..Canadian wilderness...
I spoke to somebody( live ! ) of Fedexpress in Montreal today .It took two minutes to get the quote . I didn't think to do it before because from my experience they are more expensive. In fact, the rate they gave me over the phone ( $ 110 ) confirms this.
My seller in Dublin, On just told me that he thinks he can ship for $ 46 CAD, ALL IN ONE PACKAGE.He will confirm.
Fedexpress are a bit s.....d up, though: yesterday, they had given me a quote by e-mail for $ 1380 CAD !!! . I almost had a heart attack. Those people don't read : they probably understood ..Dublin, Ireland instead of Dublin, On. A not so small difference, just across the pond!
I think it is time to rest the case...This is not a..shipping Forum, after all. You have been most helpful
Thanks again
Francone
Agree rest the case.
shipping does frequently enter into our stuff.
i use FedEx a lot, and not hard to deal with at all. I can pre print and do all charges at home, so all I do is drop off.
of course you will need, hopefully to report on the Superfreak on the water !!!!
Il y a plusieurs boutiques de planche à voile au Québec Pourquoi acheter en Ontario ? Et pourquoi utiliser un site australien pour bloguer? De quelle sorte de voile parlons-nous ? Pourquoi ne pas appeler la compagnie qui fabrique la voile et leurs demander? Ils sauraient beaucoup mieux que tout les experts par ici...
Select to expand quotewaytata said..
Il y a plusieurs boutiques de planche à voile au Québec Pourquoi acheter en Ontario ? Et pourquoi utiliser un site australien pour bloguer? De quelle sorte de voile parlons-nous ? Pourquoi ne pas appeler la compagnie qui fabrique la voile et leurs demander? Ils sauraient beaucoup mieux que tout les experts par ici...
The shop in neither would have the used sail he is looking for.
i agree the Canadian forum could be a better source esp shipping info.
why post in French on a English speaking and writting forum is a question back to you ?
Select to expand quoteforceten said..waytata said..
Il y a plusieurs boutiques de planche à voile au Québec Pourquoi acheter en Ontario ? Et pourquoi utiliser un site australien pour bloguer? De quelle sorte de voile parlons-nous ? Pourquoi ne pas appeler la compagnie qui fabrique la voile et leurs demander? Ils sauraient beaucoup mieux que tout les experts par ici...
The shop in neither would have the used sail he is looking for.
i agree the Canadian forum could be a better source esp shipping info.
why post in French on a English speaking and writting forum is a question back to you ?
Maybe out of curtesy because it is Francone's native language
could waytata be a troll ??
check posts !!
Francone's first language is Italian and NOT French
just becuz we are in Quebec means we speak French, butt ...
and hope we are still welcome to ask questions here ?? --> pourquoi utiliser un site australien pour bloguer
too much hidden negativity 
Select to expand quotejoe windsurf said..
... pourquoi utiliser un site australien pour bloguer
I dunno what that means but the last 2 words look like 'poor bugger' so it seems you are making an attempt at God's chosen lingo and that's commendable.
a lot of religions seem to have roots in the middle East
English was not the language of Moses nor Mohamed
ni francais
und auch kein Deutsch
Select to expand quotejoe windsurf said..
a lot of religions seem to have roots in the middle East
English was not the language of Moses nor Mohamed
ni francais
und auch kein Deutsch
I believe Not Wal was not referring to English but 'Strine' as God's chosen language
Any updates?
Did the sail get delivered? Did it get folded? Was the sail ok? How many packages did it go in? How much did it cost? Would you do it again?
After a lot of debate, it would be good to hear how it went.
On folding I just sold a kayak enthusiast a 1984 De Vries 4.2m2 powerhead wave sail two head battens, two short leach battens for $50 it was still beautifully folded, top condition and had never been used, and I had picked it up, as an adjunct with some other gear I acquired. The new buyer was going to use it on his kayak for sailing out to divespots...there is a new market for these old sails so folding is not a joke. Now don't laugh about folding this was the way it was done in the 1980s infact it was much easier carting and storing gear in cars in the old days without battens, the battens being easily removed. Maybe one day materials will be so advanced, that battens will become obsolete and we will be able to fold again ! I would not fold new sails today but old sails folded brilliantly. I do have some folded 1984 bombora (Gaastra made in HK designed Kevin Wadham) 4.5 m2 and 5.5 m2 and I could actually offer them to Francone. Francone do you still need folded sails ?
Select to expand quotearibenasher said..
folding this was the way it was done in the 1980s
If my memory serves me right, sails in the 1980 were mostly made of dacron, with Polyester as windows. I believe monofilm came in much later. Folding dacron sails wasn't a problem at all. The same can't be said about monofilms.
Absolutely true, dacron can be folded but not monofilm, the latter of which is easily creased.
Francone, Did you roll or fold ? What were your findings ? and what are the lessons learned ?
Fold it, but don't crush the folds, as the kevlar reinforcement can delaminate if pressure is applied to crease the fold. Folding for one shipment is not problem, don't crease, don't crush the folds. Yes, it's dacron and vinyl window.
