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Ezzy sail bags what material are they made out of?

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Created by Henners > 9 months ago, 21 Jan 2023
Henners
421 posts
21 Jan 2023 2:53PM
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Hi everyone,
I am currently windsurfing out of a spot with limited access to water. I usually take a few containers which give me enough to wash myself and my board. My sails normally don't get a cleaning and I don't really care too much. But the salt water usually gets into the car or onto the racks where I store my gear.
My sail bags absorb the salt water and then that leaches out over time. But I noticed that the Ezzy sail bags have a more plastic feel and don't absorb the water (I think). So I was thinking that if I got the wife's sewing machine out maybe I could make some bags to throw my sails in.
During the ride home, I could lean the sails facing down into my wetsuit bucket which most of the water could run off into.
The only issue is that I don't know what material to use. Has anyone tried this idea out? Any other ideas on how to transport wet sails home in the car without turning the car into a total mess?

Manuel7
1318 posts
22 Jan 2023 12:29AM
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Just asked David. Bags material do vary very much across manufacturers interestingly.

melih
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22 Jan 2023 4:06AM
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Henners said..
Hi everyone,
I am currently windsurfing out of a spot with limited access to water. I usually take a few containers which give me enough to wash myself and my board. My sails normally don't get a cleaning and I don't really care too much. But the salt water usually gets into the car or onto the racks where I store my gear.
My sail bags absorb the salt water and then that leaches out over time. But I noticed that the Ezzy sail bags have a more plastic feel and don't absorb the water (I think). So I was thinking that if I got the wife's sewing machine out maybe I could make some bags to throw my sails in.
During the ride home, I could lean the sails facing down into my wetsuit bucket which most of the water could run off into.
The only issue is that I don't know what material to use. Has anyone tried this idea out? Any other ideas on how to transport wet sails home in the car without turning the car into a total mess?


Dear Henners,
I solved this problem with plastic(nylon) bags. I have got an industrial sewing machine. I can sew all kind of material sail,bag etc.
You can use your wife's sewing machine it is a good idea. Nylon is water proof material. However very little water runs out from stitches.
Good luck.
Melih Ankara Turkey.

Henners
421 posts
22 Jan 2023 8:58AM
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Manuel7 said..
Just asked David. Bags material do vary very much across manufacturers interestingly.


I got some hydra sails and the bag material seems perfect.
All other sails that I have (severne, goya, and loft), the material just soaking it up. Car is starting to get a little on the smelly side.

Henners
421 posts
22 Jan 2023 9:01AM
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Henners said..
Hi everyone,
I am currently windsurfing out of a spot with limited access to water. I usually take a few containers which give me enough to wash myself and my board. My sails normally don't get a cleaning and I don't really care too much. But the salt water usually gets into the car or onto the racks where I store my gear.
My sail bags absorb the salt water and then that leaches out over time. But I noticed that the Ezzy sail bags have a more plastic feel and don't absorb the water (I think). So I was thinking that if I got the wife's sewing machine out maybe I could make some bags to throw my sails in.
During the ride home, I could lean the sails facing down into my wetsuit bucket which most of the water could run off into.
The only issue is that I don't know what material to use. Has anyone tried this idea out? Any other ideas on how to transport wet sails home in the car without turning the car into a total mess?




Dear Henners,
I solved this problem with plastic(nylon) bags. I have got an industrial sewing machine. I can sew all kind of material sail,bag etc.
You can use your wife's sewing machine it is a good idea. Nylon is water proof material. However very little water runs out from stitches.
Good luck.
Melih Ankara Turkey.



Excellent. Thank you very much Melih.
I was thinking, for the stitching holes, if it's a problem maybe I could use some sort of adhesive tape. But it is very early days. Not sure if the material could handle a clothes iron.
Thank you again I will start to look into plastic(nylon).
Not many fabric shops around me so it is going to be an internet order.

22 Jan 2023 11:27AM
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Henners said..

melih said..



Henners said..
Hi everyone,
I am currently windsurfing out of a spot with limited access to water. I usually take a few containers which give me enough to wash myself and my board. My sails normally don't get a cleaning and I don't really care too much. But the salt water usually gets into the car or onto the racks where I store my gear.
My sail bags absorb the salt water and then that leaches out over time. But I noticed that the Ezzy sail bags have a more plastic feel and don't absorb the water (I think). So I was thinking that if I got the wife's sewing machine out maybe I could make some bags to throw my sails in.
During the ride home, I could lean the sails facing down into my wetsuit bucket which most of the water could run off into.
The only issue is that I don't know what material to use. Has anyone tried this idea out? Any other ideas on how to transport wet sails home in the car without turning the car into a total mess?





Dear Henners,
I solved this problem with plastic(nylon) bags. I have got an industrial sewing machine. I can sew all kind of material sail,bag etc.
You can use your wife's sewing machine it is a good idea. Nylon is water proof material. However very little water runs out from stitches.
Good luck.
Melih Ankara Turkey.




Excellent. Thank you very much Melih.
I was thinking, for the stitching holes, if it's a problem maybe I could use some sort of adhesive tape. But it is very early days. Not sure if the material could handle a clothes iron.
Thank you again I will start to look into plastic(nylon).
Not many fabric shops around me so it is going to be an internet order.


Hi Henners

To keep your sails inside your vehicle and avoid the saltwater / sand to spill out, like you mentioned

You could consider to get a PVC style quiver bag made up from your local sail maker / or auto upholstery ( you would need a industrial sewing machine to stitch this ). Just a simple cylinder shape one that hold all your sails / simple zipper on the top.
Ask for the medium grade PVC

As mentioned there can be a bit of water coming through the stitching holes at both ends.
Tear Aid tape ( type A ) cut in strips to cover the stitching holes will fix this. It bonds very well on PVC, and easy to do yourself.

Just remember that the sails 'don't breathe well' through the PVC material ( so better just use quiver bag for transport )

Anyway just an suggestion,,

Cheers
Jesper

Manuel7
1318 posts
22 Jan 2023 11:31AM
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300D woven Nylon with .15mm PVC

Henners
421 posts
22 Jan 2023 4:50PM
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Henners said..


melih said..




Henners said..
Hi everyone,
I am currently windsurfing out of a spot with limited access to water. I usually take a few containers which give me enough to wash myself and my board. My sails normally don't get a cleaning and I don't really care too much. But the salt water usually gets into the car or onto the racks where I store my gear.
My sail bags absorb the salt water and then that leaches out over time. But I noticed that the Ezzy sail bags have a more plastic feel and don't absorb the water (I think). So I was thinking that if I got the wife's sewing machine out maybe I could make some bags to throw my sails in.
During the ride home, I could lean the sails facing down into my wetsuit bucket which most of the water could run off into.
The only issue is that I don't know what material to use. Has anyone tried this idea out? Any other ideas on how to transport wet sails home in the car without turning the car into a total mess?






Dear Henners,
I solved this problem with plastic(nylon) bags. I have got an industrial sewing machine. I can sew all kind of material sail,bag etc.
You can use your wife's sewing machine it is a good idea. Nylon is water proof material. However very little water runs out from stitches.
Good luck.
Melih Ankara Turkey.





Excellent. Thank you very much Melih.
I was thinking, for the stitching holes, if it's a problem maybe I could use some sort of adhesive tape. But it is very early days. Not sure if the material could handle a clothes iron.
Thank you again I will start to look into plastic(nylon).
Not many fabric shops around me so it is going to be an internet order.



Hi Henners

To keep your sails inside your vehicle and avoid the saltwater / sand to spill out, like you mentioned

You could consider to get a PVC style quiver bag made up from your local sail maker / or auto upholstery ( you would need a industrial sewing machine to stitch this ). Just a simple cylinder shape one that hold all your sails / simple zipper on the top.
Ask for the medium grade PVC

As mentioned there can be a bit of water coming through the stitching holes at both ends.
Tear Aid tape ( type A ) cut in strips to cover the stitching holes will fix this. It bonds very well on PVC, and easy to do yourself.

Just remember that the sails 'don't breathe well' through the PVC material ( so better just use quiver bag for transport )

Anyway just an suggestion,,

Cheers
Jesper


That's great, thank you. The bag would be just for transport but I'm getting really lazy these days.

Henners
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22 Jan 2023 4:51PM
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Manuel7 said..
300D woven Nylon with .15mm PVC


Thank you very much Manuel.
Am on the lookout for it.

Henners
421 posts
22 Jan 2023 8:34PM
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Sail Repair WA said..




Henners said..





melih said..







Henners said..
Hi everyone,
I am currently windsurfing out of a spot with limited access to water. I usually take a few containers which give me enough to wash myself and my board. My sails normally don't get a cleaning and I don't really care too much. But the salt water usually gets into the car or onto the racks where I store my gear.
My sail bags absorb the salt water and then that leaches out over time. But I noticed that the Ezzy sail bags have a more plastic feel and don't absorb the water (I think). So I was thinking that if I got the wife's sewing machine out maybe I could make some bags to throw my sails in.
During the ride home, I could lean the sails facing down into my wetsuit bucket which most of the water could run off into.
The only issue is that I don't know what material to use. Has anyone tried this idea out? Any other ideas on how to transport wet sails home in the car without turning the car into a total mess?









Dear Henners,
I solved this problem with plastic(nylon) bags. I have got an industrial sewing machine. I can sew all kind of material sail,bag etc.
You can use your wife's sewing machine it is a good idea. Nylon is water proof material. However very little water runs out from stitches.
Good luck.
Melih Ankara Turkey.








Excellent. Thank you very much Melih.
I was thinking, for the stitching holes, if it's a problem maybe I could use some sort of adhesive tape. But it is very early days. Not sure if the material could handle a clothes iron.
Thank you again I will start to look into plastic(nylon).
Not many fabric shops around me so it is going to be an internet order.






Hi Henners

To keep your sails inside your vehicle and avoid the saltwater / sand to spill out, like you mentioned

You could consider to get a PVC style quiver bag made up from your local sail maker / or auto upholstery ( you would need a industrial sewing machine to stitch this ). Just a simple cylinder shape one that hold all your sails / simple zipper on the top.
Ask for the medium grade PVC

As mentioned there can be a bit of water coming through the stitching holes at both ends.
Tear Aid tape ( type A ) cut in strips to cover the stitching holes will fix this. It bonds very well on PVC, and easy to do yourself.

Just remember that the sails 'don't breathe well' through the PVC material ( so better just use quiver bag for transport )

Anyway just an suggestion,,

Cheers
Jesper





That's great, thank you. The bag would be just for transport but I'm getting really lazy these days.




I started searching for PVC cloth and this is the first image that came up.


It's going to be one sexy bag.

musorianin
QLD, 597 posts
23 Jan 2023 7:46AM
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(Note sure what to say about above.) Another thing at risk of starting the obvious is make packing the sail up the very first thing after session and let it drain maximum time, rolled up standing on the luff end. I always do this and then put it in the bag and like you said angled down into the bin with the wet gear. Car is ok. (This method is particular good if you hang around banging on with others about how good/bad the session was.) BTW I've got a bunch of ezzys of various vintages and the bag material seems to changed over time.

Henners
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23 Jan 2023 6:08AM
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musorianin said..
(Note sure what to say about above.) Another thing at risk of starting the obvious is make packing the sail up the very first thing after session and let it drain maximum time, rolled up standing on the luff end. I always do this and then put it in the bag and like you said angled down into the bin with the wet gear. Car is ok. (This method is particular good if you hang around banging on with others about how good/bad the session was.) BTW I've got a bunch of ezzys of various vintages and the bag material seems to changed over time.

I'm usually time limited because I work in the afternoon. I can usually get rigged and in the water in about 10 mins, have my session, then quickly get everything packed quickly, and race off home. Not much time for talking.
And yep that's a totally hot outfit, shame to make a windsurfing bag out of it.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3115 posts
23 Jan 2023 10:05AM
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What I do is try to do my last gybe without crashing so I get back to the beach without a lot of water inside the mast sleeve.
Then I use a towel to get most of the water on the sail removed before I unrig. I started doing this because I put together board racks inside my car made with MDF and I thought water is going to ruin it quickly. No problems so far.
If I have failed at point one above, holding the rig vertical for a minute or 2 before doing the other stuff drains the sleeve.

Henners
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23 Jan 2023 10:25AM
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Mr Milk said..
What I do is try to do my last gybe without crashing so I get back to the beach without a lot of water inside the mast sleeve.
Then I use a towel to get most of the water on the sail removed before I unrig. I started doing this because I put together board racks inside my car made with MDF and I thought water is going to ruin it quickly. No problems so far.
If I have failed at point one above, holding the rig vertical for a minute or 2 before doing the other stuff drains the sleeve.

At home, I have one shelf in of MDF which I painted and then I sealed the edges with silicone. Still looks good but only 6 months in, so plenty of time to be proven wrong.
A while back, I am fairly sure that I read one bloke was putting his sails in PVC pipe for protection ect.. Never done it, as the minivan does family duties as well.But I thought it was worth a mention, if you have a dedicated car/van. Might take up too much space though.
I usually go straight from the water to the rigging spot without stopping to keep the sand off and give the sail time to get the water off.
Never tried holding rig vertical, sounds like it is worth a shot.
Thanks.

Imax1
QLD, 4925 posts
23 Jan 2023 1:10PM
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I'm too lazy and let my car rust from the inside out.

Henners
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23 Jan 2023 1:45PM
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I'm too lazy and let my car rust from the inside out.

Hahaha I feel the same way. I picked up my son last week and with all the equipment still in the car he had to hide down low because there was no seat for him.
Not that I'm admitting to anything.


Sandman1221
2776 posts
24 Jan 2023 6:25AM
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15 oz PVC fabric can be sewn on a decent home sewing machine that can sew blue jean denim, I make dry bags with the PVC, and do not bother to seal the seams, just need splash protection.

After I rinse my sail off in the bay, to get rid of beach sand, I roll it up and lean on some tree roots with bigger end lowest to drain, then when I am ready to go I stick the bigger end of rolled up sail into a 20 L dry bag from Walmart $5, and then lay in vehicle with dry bag lowest to collect salt water. Once I get home rinse off sail with fresh water.


www.seattlefabrics.com/pvc-coated-vinyl-fabrics_c_65.html

jn1
SA, 2631 posts
25 Jan 2023 10:20PM
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Henners said..

musorianin said..
(Note sure what to say about above.) Another thing at risk of starting the obvious is make packing the sail up the very first thing after session and let it drain maximum time, rolled up standing on the luff end. I always do this and then put it in the bag and like you said angled down into the bin with the wet gear. Car is ok. (This method is particular good if you hang around banging on with others about how good/bad the session was.) BTW I've got a bunch of ezzys of various vintages and the bag material seems to changed over time.


I'm usually time limited because I work in the afternoon. I can usually get rigged and in the water in about 10 mins, have my session, then quickly get everything packed quickly, and race off home. Not much time for talking.
And yep that's a totally hot outfit, shame to make a windsurfing bag out of it.


I agree with Muso. Roll up your sail 1st as he said. I put a small square of mat under it, and rest it upside down against leeward side car mirror. Then do all your other packup. By the time you pack sail, most of the water will be out of it (10 min later ?).

Tip #2. Don't fall off. Then sail won't get wet

Windsurfing f**** cars with salt damage. I own a rust bucket as well

OldGuy3
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29 Jan 2023 4:24AM
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I think all the Ezzy sails owned since '12 have mesh vent bottom end panel. Bags seem to stay dry, but usually a bit of water dribbles out of the bottom side. Haven't looked at the insides of a bag. Guessing it is coated polyester or poly blend. Nylon would stretch too much. Polyester is more hydrophilic than nylon.

For needle hole leaks. Just use some tent, hammock canopy seam sealer. The stuff available at any shop that sells tents.

Bunch of options for diy waterproof bags. Thinking recycle. Old or damaged Spintex sail, Dacron sails that still have some resin impreg remaining, damaged camping tarps, old Sunbrella or WeatherMax sail covers. Usually freebies. Up here it's a pita and costly disposing of those types of materials.



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