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Cribb sheets ( Guy Cribb)

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Created by sboardcrazy > 9 months ago, 22 Oct 2017
sboardcrazy
NSW, 8225 posts
22 Oct 2017 10:25AM
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Anyone know where I can get these? His website says they are out of stock..
I've sent a message but I've had no reply as yet.
Mine died of old age..

Vince68
WA, 675 posts
24 Oct 2017 6:53AM
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Are you after the elastic band or the info on the sheet. What is the info on the sheet that is important?

I made a measuring elastic band. I grabbed a length of lacky, say 1200mm, tied a knot at one end, tied a small piece of polly to the other (20mm) and marked with a black pen 400mm from the knot. Works a treat

joe windsurf
1482 posts
24 Oct 2017 7:04AM
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is this it ? minus the "rope" ??

www.guycribb.com/userfiles/documents/Highly%20Tuned.pdf

madlad
WA, 145 posts
24 Oct 2017 8:58AM
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I made the elastic band myself based on the instructions on the website.

hops
SA, 21 posts
24 Oct 2017 12:57PM
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Had one. If it helps, I reckon the mark on elastic cord was 1/3 of the way along.

NotWal
QLD, 7430 posts
24 Oct 2017 1:00PM
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hops said..
Had one. If it helps, I reckon the mark on elastic cord was 1/3 of the way along.


Yes it was. It's only a ball park measurement anyway so it's not that useful unless your sails happen to have their centre of lift 1/3 back. It's just as easy to guestimate their position by standing a rigged sail up in the wind and then fine tune it on the water. Once you've got it right you can mark on the sail where the harness lines line up.

Sparky
WA, 1122 posts
24 Oct 2017 12:28PM
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^^^^ exactly! What's the point of a device, all sails are a bit different. Have a guess then tune accordingly. You aren't going to keep sailing with them in the wrong position just because your measurer said it was the right position.

Haggar
QLD, 1670 posts
24 Oct 2017 9:23PM
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I use the Harness line elastic measurement every time I sail and I find its pretty much bang on every time, saves me heaps of time, yes its the 1/3 mark on the rear harness line, works on all of my sails, wave, race, big and small. Vote 1 Cribby

hops
SA, 21 posts
25 Oct 2017 9:16AM
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Haggar said..
I use the Harness line elastic measurement every time I sail and I find its pretty much bang on every time, saves me heaps of time, yes its the 1/3 mark on the rear harness line, works on all of my sails, wave, race, big and small. Vote 1 Cribby


I found it pretty accurate too for various sails (coincidence?), but with an adjustable outhaul, tweaking the outhaul on the fly changes CE slightly.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8225 posts
25 Oct 2017 5:57PM
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The elastic died and I replaced it but it was larger diameter and it didn't work. I've since bought some new elastic and I'm trying that.
Not sure if it's the same.
I find it really good to get a pretty good setup on land if your launch spot is in a lee.

Faff
VIC, 1371 posts
25 Oct 2017 7:40PM
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I did the elastic thing for a while... The front hand pulled too much, so I stopped. Although others have said it's symptom of "not enough downhaul".

MarkSSC
QLD, 642 posts
25 Oct 2017 8:53PM
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I use the elastic and it is always very close to the point if not correct. Only a slight adjustment needed if it is off. A great idea if you are using the same boom for different sails.

Swindy
WA, 456 posts
25 Oct 2017 10:50PM
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Do you guys all remove your harness lines and re grip your booms after each use. Cant see the issue here unless you do.
If you have had a good session and got position right, take a photo of positioning and save it.
or for those who don't re grip after each use look at the wear and tear on your old torn up grip and take a guess, you will be surprised how close you are.

madlad
WA, 145 posts
26 Oct 2017 7:26AM
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I did the elastic thing for a while... The front hand pulled too much, so I stopped. Although others have said it's symptom of "not enough downhaul".


From memory Guy says it is set up to pull harder on the front hand than the back hand as thats your brake hand (front hand). If you dont like it that heavy on the front hand you can shift your front loop a little further forward. It opens up the lines a bit but it will alleviate that heavy sensation without adding load onto the back hand. Guy says you should be able to sail along with your back hand off the boom if you want to. Some people like that set up and others dont. I guess its a case of personal preference.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8225 posts
26 Oct 2017 10:30AM
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madlad said..

MrCranky said..
I did the elastic thing for a while... The front hand pulled too much, so I stopped. Although others have said it's symptom of "not enough downhaul".



From memory Guy says it is set up to pull harder on the front hand than the back hand as thats your brake hand (front hand). If you dont like it that heavy on the front hand you can shift your front loop a little further forward. It opens up the lines a bit but it will alleviate that heavy sensation without adding load onto the back hand. Guy says you should be able to sail along with your back hand off the boom if you want to. Some people like that set up and others dont. I guess its a case of personal preference.


I think the idea is it's harder to over sheet and kill things set up that way ??

Imax1
QLD, 4925 posts
26 Oct 2017 11:26AM
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Doesn't anyone adjust while sailing ???
Its easy , dont over tighten the straps ( they wont move ) and just twist them along and adjust accordingly , ( move to the hand thats pulling too much ) !
I adjust constantly on the go so i can sail no handed for a couple of seconds .
Every sail and the way it is rigged and the amount it is powered up is different.
Am i missing something ?

Ant-man
NSW, 179 posts
26 Oct 2017 12:38PM
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Imax1 said..
Doesn't anyone adjust while sailing ???
Its easy , dont over tighten the straps ( they wont move ) and just twist them along and adjust accordingly , ( move to the hand thats pulling too much ) !
I adjust constantly on the go so i can sail no handed for a couple of seconds .
Every sail and the way it is rigged and the amount it is powered up is different.
Am i missing something ?


Nope you aren't missing anything IMO, I do the same as you, adjust on the go. Once you get used to this you can even do it and stay planing, quick unhook, couple of twists, hook in and see how it "feels". So many things can influence harness line position (rake of mast, mast foot position, chop, type of sailing......).

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8225 posts
26 Oct 2017 1:33PM
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Imax1 said..
Doesn't anyone adjust while sailing ???
Its easy , dont over tighten the straps ( they wont move ) and just twist them along and adjust accordingly , ( move to the hand thats pulling too much ) !
I adjust constantly on the go so i can sail no handed for a couple of seconds .
Every sail and the way it is rigged and the amount it is powered up is different.
Am i missing something ?


Mine get stuck and can't be moved easily..

Imax1
QLD, 4925 posts
26 Oct 2017 12:51PM
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sboardcrazy said..

Imax1 said..
Doesn't anyone adjust while sailing ???
Its easy , dont over tighten the straps ( they wont move ) and just twist them along and adjust accordingly , ( move to the hand thats pulling too much ) !
I adjust constantly on the go so i can sail no handed for a couple of seconds .
Every sail and the way it is rigged and the amount it is powered up is different.
Am i missing something ?



Mine get stuck and can't be moved easily..


I hear you ,
I used to use Gaastra and they didnt like moving easily , now i use NP and they move easy , funny , cos there kinda the same . Mabee different material ?

ka43
NSW, 3091 posts
26 Oct 2017 5:53PM
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Totally agree with Imax and Belly. If you only use or have one boom and use it from big to small sails then you HAVE to adjust your lines. Move forward when on smaller sails and short boom and move back on big sails with long boom. Its a "feel" thing.
I have one boom for sails from 8.6 to 7.8 to 7.0 to 6.4 and 5.8 with 32 inch lines.
Get used to your gear and tune it!!!!!!!!

MartinF2
QLD, 484 posts
26 Oct 2017 8:56PM
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Hope this might help in some way to setup a base to work from. Not just harness line position but your whole kit as it all needs to work together. Make notes of your setup each time of what works (for different board/sail combo) and improve/refine from there. Someone else's setup won't work for you. That all comes down to you and tuning the gear.

Faff
VIC, 1371 posts
27 Oct 2017 9:21PM
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Imax1 said..

sboardcrazy said..


Imax1 said..
Doesn't anyone adjust while sailing ???
Its easy , dont over tighten the straps ( they wont move ) and just twist them along and adjust accordingly , ( move to the hand thats pulling too much ) !
I adjust constantly on the go so i can sail no handed for a couple of seconds .
Every sail and the way it is rigged and the amount it is powered up is different.
Am i missing something ?




Mine get stuck and can't be moved easily..



I hear you ,
I used to use Gaastra and they didnt like moving easily , now i use NP and they move easy , funny , cos there kinda the same . Mabee different material ?


I got clip lines because they are easy to move around and supposedly don't wreck the grip... However I think they move around too easily on skinny booms.



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