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Bombora 270

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Created by Mmeyer > 9 months ago, 10 May 2012
Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
10 May 2012 11:56PM
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I am looking a buying a bombora 270 (don't know what year) but can't find much info on the net about it. I assume it's a plastic board. How readily does it plane and could it be classed as a fast board? I am a beginner who can sail a windsurfer and have the basic skills down pat so how good would this board be to continue to learn on? I sail on a lake sometimes and in the choppy ocean most of the time. Thoughts??? Is it worth it???

Mark _australia
WA, 23465 posts
10 May 2012 10:17PM
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Fast - yes. Used by a good sailor they are very fast. However, they are a pig to gybe so it will frustrate the crap out of you if you are learning to carve gybe. Non planing gybes will also be very hard compared to your beginner board.

It is also old school shape which is very narrow (like 50-55cm wide) and unstable when not planing.

I imagine it is very cheap, but if the budget will stretch further, something more modern about 230 - 250 long x 70cm wide will be a million times better

As an intermediate board cheaply, think about a 2002 - 2005 freeride board

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 12:24AM
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How does it stack up against an Exocet speed slider??? The main problem is that I live in tassie so the market for cheap windsurfers isnt really there. Is the bombora a plastic board?

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 12:38AM
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Another question. How does it differ to a windrush xp coz that's what I learnt on.

Mark _australia
WA, 23465 posts
10 May 2012 10:49PM
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Yes the Bombora will be plastic. About an early 1990's model. There is 2 kinds of 'plastic' boards - (1) old school moulded polyethylene (like beginner's boards from the 70's and 80's) and (2) newer epoxy boards with a plastic layer over the top to make them more resistant to scrapes and bangs (like a Starboard Tufskin or recent BiC Techno's) . First kind - heavy and slippery and unable to be repaired. Second kind - good for intermediates.

If it is 'plastic' - you want the second kind. Basically if it is not white and doesn't feel the same contruction as your XP, then it is probably OK. The plastic layer over the top of a modern intermediate board is rare though, and not essential.

The Speed slider is a modern epoxy board. Made from about 2004 to 2010 ish?.

There is no comparison - the Bombora is hard to give away and the Exocet will be spot on for an intermediate sailor.

BUT new style boards do not like being smashed and getting water inside. If they are both $50 that is about right for a pristine Bombora but it may mean the Exocet has been damaged. How much are they asking?

Mark _australia
WA, 23465 posts
10 May 2012 10:53PM
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and ... you probably don't want a smaller Speed Slider unless u are very light. a 135L would be the go probably.

How much do you weigh?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 May 2012 6:11AM
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I used to have a Bombora 270. A good board for the time but not as good as a modern board. They are roto moulded, not blown, so they are not slippery. The non slip was actually very good. Quite a quick board though I'm not sure how quick. I remember the first time I used it in Lake Illawarra. I really was impressed with how easy it was to sail. However that was back in 1995. Having a tough board was always pretty good. No need to worry about dings or cracks. They were okay to gybe, much better than the earlier Xits and Zots. The rails are not razor sharp like they are on earlier Bombora slalom boards.

I'm not sure about the Windrush XP but I think that is a board that is another generation or two back from the 270. I think the 270 will be a better board when the wind picks up.

They have a powerbox finbox so fins are available.

It will not be as stable as a more modern board of the same volume. I sold it on eBay a few years ago to a bloke from Wollongong for about $50.

AUS02
TAS, 2038 posts
11 May 2012 7:21AM
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Mmeyer said...

The main problem is that I live in tassie so the market for cheap windsurfers isnt really there.?


There's a reasonable used board market in TAS, where do you sail?

actiomax
NSW, 1576 posts
11 May 2012 7:41AM
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I sail the 292 as my light wind board & its does me not many people are faster when i go out. The only problem is the mast track is to far forward for the more modern sails & the foot straps are a bit to get into as well as they are further back than whats normal but i think for the price its been worth every cent and it appears indestructible.

Obelix
WA, 1131 posts
11 May 2012 6:41AM
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Mmeyer said...

I am looking a buying a bombora 270 (don't know what year) but can't find much info on the net about it. I assume it's a plastic board. How readily does it plane and could it be classed as a fast board? I am a beginner who can sail a windsurfer and have the basic skills down pat so how good would this board be to continue to learn on? I sail on a lake sometimes and in the choppy ocean most of the time. Thoughts??? Is it worth it???


I still have a 292 (134L)
It will plane quickly and I managed 25 knts. It's a polyethylene version, and is indestructible, however quite heavy and with sharp edges so it becomes a handful in the chop.

What are your basic skills?

If you are learning to waterstart, and getting into harness and straps, you'll catapult a lot and damage a modern board, so it will be OK initially, as it can take a lot of punishment.

Once you get over it and decide it's time to learn gybing, buy a more recent board with a bit wider tail.

My 292 is waiting for the next rubbish verge collection.
Sad, but I tried giving it for free, and there was no interest.

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 10:15AM
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Thanks for all the replies guys!!!

Mark - They are asking $300 for the Exocet. The Bombora is $450 with a fibreglass mast, alloy clip on boom, 7m sail, 5m north prisma sail, vgc (whatever that is...), mast foot and a base. He is also throwing in a learners long board, centreboard, fins and footstraps. Is this a good deal? And should i expect the sails to be a more modern design (more square top) or an older triangular design? The bombora is also a 110l board and i weigh about 75kg.

AUS02 - I live in Launceston and sail at Bridport. Have you got any suggestions for where to buy a board (and rig).

Obelix - My current board is extremely heavy and is horrible to steer so its hard to say exactly what my skills are but i can mostly tack and gybe, haven't tried water starts and haven't used a harness.

Mark _australia
WA, 23465 posts
11 May 2012 8:27AM
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$300 for the Exocet will be a much better buy than $450 for the antique collection. As stated by others, yes the 270 is usable and indestructable. However I reckon I could probably get all the stuff on that list for free over a few months. It is that old.

The North Prisma is an early 1990's race sail with lots of cams and is not what you are after, and may be on it's last legs.
Once you can plane in the foostraps comfortably the Bombora 270 and Prisma could be very very fast. However I am talking about how easy ti is to get to that stage and the Exocet will make it much much easier and still have resale value in a couple of years.
Just make sure it doesn't have water in it, get one of the Tas guys to have a look at it with you

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 10:31AM
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Would it be cheaper to buy board and sail seperatly, or together. If it is better to buy seperatly, what should i look out for?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
11 May 2012 11:12AM
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Mmeyer said...

Would it be cheaper to buy board and sail seperatly, or together. If it is better to buy seperatly, what should i look out for?


It all depends. Sometimes there are very good deals with near new kit like getting a couple of boards, four or five sails, booms and masts for a couple of grand. Other times there are new style boards and sails for sale seperately. Sometimes there are great deals on new gear, ie you could probably get a whole new rig and board for around $2000 if buying stuff on special or a superceeded model.

Probably starting from scratch it may be a good idea to wait for something to come up. Perhaps post a request on the Tassie forum to see if anyone has any equipment they want to offload. Many windsurfers will be happy to sell their older equipment to a new windsurfer for a nominal cost.

I think the cost of the Bombora is too much, even if it includes the other stuff.

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 11:20AM
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I'm a 16 y/o who just got a job so my budget doesn't really stretch into the thousands.

Also do I have to watch out in terms of what type of mast extension i get in relation to the board? Or does any mast extension fit any board?

Al Planet
TAS, 1548 posts
11 May 2012 12:18PM
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Mmeyer said...

I'm a 16 y/o who just got a job so my budget doesn't really stretch into the thousands.

Also do ? have to watch out in terms of what type of mast extension i get in relation to the board? Or does any mast extension fit any board?


I have got a Bic vivace 285 (Hull) you can have for free.

I will hunt out what ever other bit and pieces I can find.

The exocet sounds OK.

Getting a decent light rig is pretty important to success.

cheers Al

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
11 May 2012 12:56PM
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^^^ The only downside of starting on 'older' gear is that it can turn you off the sport. If you're offered free/cheap gear - stick with it, get the basics happening & then demo some newer gear, you'll be blown away by the difference & how much easier it can be.

In saying that, some of the 'old' stuff is still pretty good. A seabreeze member I met in Pt Fairy a few weeks ago chooses the old over the new after owning both.

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 1:22PM
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Al Planet - Thanks for the offer!!! I will message you a bit later.

Sailhack - Don't worry, i wont be turned off windsurfing...it is such an amazing sport!!!

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
11 May 2012 2:15PM
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Mmeyer said...

windsurfing...it is such an amazing sport!!!


Bang-on there Mmeyer!

Good luck with getting some gear & get out there on the water.

micboode
VIC, 3 posts
11 May 2012 2:45PM
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Mmeyer - I have a North Spectro 5.5m sail still in VGC (2 cams but very easy to rig) that you can have for free if you want it - you'll just need to pay for the postage ex Geelong. I also have an old boom to suit (clamp on) that you can have, but perhaps the postage may be more than the boom is worth? Can email you pic's if you like.

buckles
VIC, 107 posts
11 May 2012 5:34PM
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Sailhack said...

A seabreeze member I met in Pt Fairy a few weeks ago chooses the old over the new after owning both.

To clarrify, I choose my 80's longboard over my 90's bombora shortboard any day.

However a couple of weeks ago I went to SHQ for a look at very modern gear and walked away with a spanking new JP Funride. Having played on it for a few weeks, I'm converted and very much enjoying it. The Funride matched to a modern sail absolutely beats the hell out of the 90's bombora in every respect.

The wally will still get a regular outing though, just cause it's good fun and can be sailed on those days where wind is scarce.

Mmeyer
TAS, 81 posts
11 May 2012 8:22PM
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Thanks micboode.

When i buy gear, how do i know that a certain mast extension will fit with the mast or the board and how do i know what mast to put in the sail ect. ect. How do i do this???

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
11 May 2012 11:11PM
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That also need loads of power to move then around



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