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Aeron mast bases & rdm extensions

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Created by GazMan > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2009
GazMan
WA, 847 posts
13 Dec 2009 5:17PM
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Noticed a number of recent posts related to europin bases and rdm extensions failing. Anyone had any issues with Aeron mast bases or rdm extensions? (positive comments appreciated too!)

Mark _australia
WA, 23436 posts
13 Dec 2009 5:33PM
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Absolutely no personal experience whatsoever but $70 for an Aeron base vs Chinooks topline base at $120 ............... hmmmm.

However their booms are cheap and get rave reviews from many people.


GazMan
WA, 847 posts
13 Dec 2009 11:39PM
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Mark _australia said...

Absolutely no personal experience whatsoever but $70 for an Aeron base vs Chinooks topline base at $120 ............... hmmmm.

However their booms are cheap and get rave reviews from many people.


Precisely a reason for my post re mast bases:
plastic mast base fittings on $70 Aeron vs solid metal mast base fittings on $120 Chinook EX base (not sure where you got your prices from Mark but comparable twist-on single bolt tendon bases priced at shops in WA were $85 for Aeron and $130 for Chinook EX).

So can anyone tell me if plastic base fittings are adequate with moderate to hard use?

KMAN5000
NSW, 126 posts
14 Dec 2009 9:54AM
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On the extensions I HAD a rdm north power xt which failed on me (between 2 pin holes (vertically shearing not normal horizontal snap...), have been using an aeron rdm carbom extension 46cm since, and hasn't had a single issue, using it for wave sails (severne) and solid shorebreak conditions at 28-32cm extension 90% of the time..... and at 10cm 10% of the time......

As for mast base, i'm using a NP europin base which doesn't have any issues to date..... 12months and counting with no real signs of degradation or weakness yet...
- BTW my NP europin is plastic also and gets a flogging...

Aeron seem to be making alot of accesories that are being noted for thier durability, i'd be suprised if the mast bases were duds, and if they were, i'm sure they'd get onto it and fix it, if they had stock when I got my MB i'd probably have gotten one...

With Aeron customer service, had an issue with my boom (mast clamp failed at boom conection) and they replaced my boom on the spot, and then supplied me with an improved heavy duty clamped that adressed and fixed the problem within a week...

Chinook have been around and maybe refined their development of bases over the years, but even they have had issues with their products over they years. I think its more a QC issue when if comes to parts failing, and these companies have to be up to the task of replacement and improving their products or they'd go bust. Its not a huge market and last thing they want would be to loose their market share over dud products, also the price difference may be due to the manufacturing location,

Aeron are ex thailand (same place as severne bases and extensions) and this may be why they are 2/3rds or less the price of chinook (ex USA). -

As for europins failing, i'd be interested in finding out where the point of failure is... is it the tendon, the pin to tendon connection (to pin or base bolt- ie plastic bit) or is it the pin itself??? - in 15 years of sailing, i've had one mast base fail and that was the tendon (rubber bit) and that was 13 years ago - it failed cause it was 5 years old, second hand, the materials were inferiour to todays standards oh and I was young and didn't check my gear for wear and tear....

ab01
QLD, 87 posts
14 Dec 2009 1:21PM
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A couple of years ago i had two euro pins fail on me. They both broke at the threaded bolt inside the pin. The threaded bolt is screwed into the larger uni joint not the small tendon. I then changed to the older spring two pin fitting & had no problems. I still use the larger uni joint rather than the smaller tendon as I feel they have more give & you can check wear more easily. The new chinook solid cast stainless europin that uses the tendon joint should have no problems.

GazMan
WA, 847 posts
14 Dec 2009 11:52PM
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KMAN5000 said...


As for europins failing, i'd be interested in finding out where the point of failure is... is it the tendon, the pin to tendon connection (to pin or base bolt- ie plastic bit) or is it the pin itself??? - in 15 years of sailing, i've had one mast base fail and that was the tendon (rubber bit) and that was 13 years ago - it failed cause it was 5 years old, second hand, the materials were inferiour to todays standards oh and I was young and didn't check my gear for wear and tear....


Re europin failures, I chose not to join onto the recent Seabreeze topic (Tendon Mast Base + Euro Style Pin = Trouble) at the link below as I thought my query about Aeron bases was really worth another topic, though it did get me thinking if plastic base fittings are structurally inferior to solid metal base fittings especially when your kit is getting a regular flogging:

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58854

(reason why I picked on Aeron bases and rdm extensions is because I just recently purchased them!).

KMAN5000
NSW, 126 posts
15 Dec 2009 9:53AM
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OK missed that topic, but can't fault the Aeron extensions, and well I think if the base is going to fail, its likely to fail after only a few goes due to QC issues, in which case you run the gauntlet and hope it holds up.... check it regularly would also help I guess



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