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Advice needed on gear for me to get back please

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Created by GrumpySmurf > 9 months ago, 16 Apr 2013
GrumpySmurf
WA, 230 posts
16 Apr 2013 1:13PM
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A little background... I am 70kg, short, 40 YO, fit but am a weak swimmer. More 20 years ago, I got a big floater rig to learn on, and then moved to a tiny Bombora wave board. I got to a stage where I could beach start, could water start in the right conditions 80% of the time, and could only get 1 foot into the straps. Nowhere near gybing.

Now I am toying with the idea of coming back into the sports. My current desire would be to one day cruise around (say South Perth to Fremantle and back), and my 13 year old daughter has also expressed interest in learning. At this stage, I don't have a desire to get into waves and jumping - too old for that

I visited a couple shops and I know their advice is great, but am seeking for other opinions. They generally advised a 150 liter board like a Starboard Go or Carve, and a 5.5m sail. The problem with that is that those boards are hard to find and are expensive.

My question is, would a Starboard Kode 122 liter be usable for me to learn and get back?

PeterPaan
NSW, 67 posts
16 Apr 2013 4:16PM
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www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Learner-Advice/

Someone had asked a similar question before.....see above

swoosh
QLD, 1928 posts
16 Apr 2013 8:20PM
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If you can beach and water start already, you'll be fine on a 122L board @ 70kg.

GrumpySmurf
WA, 230 posts
16 Apr 2013 6:29PM
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Stuthepirate - most of the ones you listed are less than 150 liters - so I assume your opinion is that around 122 l is OK for me? Also, most are in other states, is shipping of a board feasible?

swoosh - bear in mind I haven't been for 20 odd years

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8224 posts
16 Apr 2013 11:41PM
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I think it would be a steep learning curve with a board + 50 of your weight. My big one is + 60 and I am used to it now and don't have any trouble but it is wobbly in lighter winds and gybing in light conditions.
Can you hire aboard to see how you go?
Maybe get a few lessons and try different size boards and then decide what size you feel you will need.
It also depends on how much wind your area gets and how consistent it is.A larger board will be better for re learning if you have a lot of lighter gusty winds. If you live somewhere with good consistent wind of 15kts + a smaller board may be feasable although harder at first.
Another factor is how often you are going to be able to sail..2 x a month a larger board will be easier.. If you live near the water, conditions allow you to get out a few times a week and your dedicated and determined then the smaller ones may be feasable.

terminal
1421 posts
17 Apr 2013 1:17AM
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Having sailed before, it will be a help in that you should be able to re-learn it.

To speed your learning up, be prepared to travel a bit extra if necessary go out in light to medium (onshore) winds and flat water.

The gear the shop advised sounds good but it is cheaper to buy a second hand board of the right type.
As you progress, your daughter could maybe use the gear you start with to learn. Width is a key thing for beginners at the start, and if you or your daughter are easily frustrated, it helps to have a very stable board.

You tend to progress to smaller boards, but a good rig will suit both a beginner and an expert (provided the beginner doesn't get catapulted through the sail).

I associate my sails and masts. If I was starting out, I would get a 430 mast, which suits sails from about 5.4m to 6.2m, and then start with either the 6.2 or the 5.3 or 5.4 depending on the common wind strengths in the area. Then as I progressed, get the other sail.

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
17 Apr 2013 9:04AM
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GrumpySmurf said...
Stuthepirate - most of the ones you listed are less than 150 liters - so I assume your opinion is that around 122 l is OK for me? Also, most are in other states, is shipping of a board feasible?

swoosh - bear in mind I haven't been for 20 odd years


From the sound of it, you were OK 20 years ago, but not killing it. Not gybing, only 1 foot in the straps so not jumping either. If you were only water starting 80% of the time, were you uphauling the other 20%? Guessing you were planing though and got a taste for that feeling of speed. One thing I can say to you is that the gear has come on miles and miles since the Bombora days and you're going to find it so much easier to get planing, to gybe and to go fast than you did back then. I would have had a Tyronsea Stinger back then which I thought was the business. Compared to what I sail on today, it was a massive floating turd. Actually, I moved onto a Strapper slalom after the Stinger back then, so this was what made me twig how bad the Tyronsea actually was.

I am 42, weigh 75kgs and had a bit of a break for a few years too, not 20, more like 6 or so. I was much more advanced than you when I let life get in the way.

I started back on a 93 ltr JP Wave, with a 5.5 sail. In terms of sail, I think given your weight and the wind in WA, 5.5 is plenty big for you.

In terms of board, I think you could be looking around the 120 - 130 ltr mark. After I started back on the 93 ltr board, I sailed it for a summer and then went up to 106 ltrs and I've gotta say, my enjoyment increased a lot. The break robbed me of technique (which comes back) and my endurance wasn't what it was (although I am pretty fit, ran a marathon recently). I have just bought a 122 ltr Starboard Futura for light wind sailing and I would be leaning towards something like this for you. You can uphaul on this board, its 73cm wide, so stable. You can get out on it in 5 to 6 knots of wind and putter around (good for your daughter) but also take it out and go really fast in winds up to 18-20 kts (although I haven't had much of a chance to do this yet - no wind in Melbourne).

My reservation about getting a 150 ltr is that if it all comes rushing back to you, you'll want something smaller pretty quickly.

Hope this helps. Feel free to PM me if you wanna chat more about the board.

PS I bought my boards on Seabreeze, last one from QLD. Interstate couriers will cost you about $80, and I can share some info here as well.

Stuthepirate
SA, 3591 posts
17 Apr 2013 12:39PM
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^^Have to agree with Sputnik there GS.
At 70kgs with previous experience 120-130L would be fine.
Good for light wind and medium wind. learning and stepping up to the carve gybes and tacking.

GrumpySmurf
WA, 230 posts
17 Apr 2013 12:26PM
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Thank you all for your opinions. Appreciate it! I had gone ahead and got a Kode 122. Now I'm sure there will be lots of laughs and embarrassment.

Sputnik11
VIC, 972 posts
17 Apr 2013 7:47PM
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GrumpySmurf said...
Thank you all for your opinions. Appreciate it! I had gone ahead and got a Kode 122. Now I'm sure there will be lots of laughs and embarrassment.




looking forward to some updates on progress

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
19 Apr 2013 12:23AM
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Welcome back to the best sport on earth !



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