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30 knots on production kit- technique

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Created by knots > 9 months ago, 8 Jul 2008
knots
WA, 114 posts
8 Jul 2008 2:45PM
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Speed guru's ,interested in how you can push the limit of your gear on any speed run.

Bender
WA, 2235 posts
8 Jul 2008 2:51PM
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30knts is very achievable. Rig big and go broad my son

lao shi
WA, 1338 posts
8 Jul 2008 3:37PM
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Find flat water.
30knots on the ocean is a true challenge

hardie
WA, 4129 posts
8 Jul 2008 3:49PM
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Wind: You need about 20knots or more, 16/17/18 knots if you know what doing and on right gear

Water: As flat as you can get and at least 300 metres, more is preferable.

Gear: roughly 6mt sail, flattish rocker board, such as a slalom board, and reasonable fin.

Technique: Sail Broad, about 120 to 140 degrees off the wind, light feet, flexible knees, and go for it attitude.

kato
VIC, 3506 posts
12 Jul 2008 8:13PM
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40 knots 10 sec ave on a Starboard kids pro S with KA 5.0 Koncept and a TM 45 fin.All of the shelf stuff
The key to fast speeds is the flat water.The hairyist run I,ve ever done was a 33peak in chop. Gave up triing to go fast that day before I broke something.

firiebob
WA, 3172 posts
12 Jul 2008 6:49PM
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kato said...

40 knots 10 sec ave on a Starboard kids pro S with KA 5.0 Koncept and a TM 45 fin.All of the shelf stuff
The key to fast speeds is the flat water.The hairyist run I,ve ever done was a 33peak in chop. Gave up triing to go fast that day before I broke something.


From someone as fast as you Craig, what you said about chop and a 33 peak, just made my day
I think in big chop it boils down to control and I think that's where a freeride like my Gladiator shines. But then I remeber Chris L last year doing a 36 at a Perth beach, might be wrong but I think it was on his speed gear I just can't get my head around that

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
12 Jul 2008 6:58PM
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Very possible, all my kit is production and I've done 35 knots.

As said above, flat water and rigging big is your friend.

The first time I took a GPS out I was on a 105 litre freeride board, with a 7m sail. I kept on doing 26's until I changed my fin from a 30cm to a 37cm -- then I started doing 28's. A couple of runs later I'd cracked the 30 This surprised me, because I'd thought that the smaller fin would be faster than the bigger fin.

So the key for me was experimenting with my setup, and keeping an open mind about what changes to make. With a GPS it's a lot easier to figure out what makes you go faster. Don't be afraid to change mast foot position, boom height, outhaul, downhaul, fin size, strap position etc, but be sure to do three runs on any setup before you make a decision as to whether or not it's faster than any other setup. And only change one thing at a time!

Probably the first things to experiment with would be outhaul and fin size. Muck around with these for a couple of hours and pick the setup that gives you the best speed, then start experimenting with other stuff.

MintoxGT
WA, 975 posts
12 Jul 2008 7:23PM
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Even more impressive are the guys breaking into the 33 -36 kt range on wave gear, so off the shelf gear is more than capable of cracking 30, I on the other hand have 2 more knots to go untill the magical 30 for me, I have even started jogging to shead a 5 kilos, I have lost about 3 at the minute, also if you have a degree of stamina you can stay out a bit longer so when that last nice puff comes along you are already on the water and not derigging coz, as mineral1 says "Ya tin fruited" Buggered, stuffed, tired, kaput, knackered and wanna go home for sleeps.

My fist time on the JP 93ltr FSW with a very average 33 inch weedy and an old 6.0 Ezzy I went from stuck at 25kts max to 28.15 kts and it felt great, unfortunately I did not have as much TOW due to starting a new family so it was hard to keep up the pace but this season I hope to crack the big 30

So yes, stock gear goes good mate

knots
WA, 114 posts
12 Jul 2008 8:27PM
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to all speed guru's thanks for all the feed back on cracking 30 knots.That is my aim for this season.Interesting feed back on fin size.Yesterday clocked 29 knots.look forward to catching up with the speed guru's at Hardies run in the near future.May the wind god's blow world wide , but we are blessed at times in WA.I feel the need for speed.

MintoxGT
WA, 975 posts
12 Jul 2008 10:11PM
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lao shi said...

Minox GT. Your FSW is capable of good speed. I have clocked over 35 on my JPFSW91 and a Flying objects 26cm weedy, admittedly with a 6.6 KA Koncept. I have hit high 32 with a NP combat 5m.
http://gpsteamchallenge.com.au/showsession.php?date=2008-06-15&team=12
You must hunt down flat water though.


Dude need I say more, there are speed demons on production wave gear every where you look.

Cheers

rick77
VIC, 121 posts
13 Jul 2008 8:44AM
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35knts on a production board (go with std fin) and sail

icks.icks.free.fr/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2106

not so flat water either :)



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