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...more on spinouts; and MFC SL fins

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Created by paddymac > 9 months ago, 9 Jan 2009
paddymac
WA, 938 posts
9 Jan 2009 2:21PM
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I have spinout problems with one particular setup - 93L Futura, 6.5 Overdrive and MFC SL36. I have noticed that with a borrowed 32-3cm weedie (thanks Bigdog and Bender) I have no problems at all with spinout yet with my own fin I have troubles. It's a bugger when I'm going broad on a speed run and all of a sudden it gives way.

The SL has a fairly narrow outline - I am wondering whether it might be that the weedies (e.g. 33cm Choco) are just bigger in area so I'm getting more grip? I would have thought a 36 was big enough for this set up (stock is a wider 34 Drake Freeslalom). Or is it more likely a technique issue - e.g. stance not compensating for different location of centre of effort.

Anyone else got an MFC SL and have comment on their performance?

Choco weed - www.chocofins.com/fins/weeed/index.html
MFC SL - http://www.mauifin.com/fin_info.php?id=10

Gestalt
QLD, 14627 posts
9 Jan 2009 5:55PM
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mfc make great fins.

i haven't sailed SL but i have a couple of RC and they don't spinout.

could it have been weed that made the difference.???

jp747
1553 posts
9 Jan 2009 5:15PM
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am a great fan of mfc fins the sl models light to hi-winds real great no spin-outs unless i really push hard on the back foot to go upwind in flukey to gusty conditions..maybe your stance paddymac is making the difference a 36cm on your setup should be ok

mkseven
QLD, 2315 posts
9 Jan 2009 7:56PM
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Have looked at a SL in the flesh, can't say I would like it at all. I think that they are so narrow you have to be powered up on them and one of those fins where you need 2cm longer to have the same effect. Almost the direct opposite of the RC which aren't a bad fin.

It is probably a bit of the fin, and a bit technique in that a wider fin does help you... you can either really fine tune your back foot or get a wider fin.

paddymac
WA, 938 posts
9 Jan 2009 8:35PM
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Have a couple of the RCs for the bigger gear and very happy with them. Also just had a great session on the 32 SL with very few spinouts and none while going broad - go figure! Must be the stance... more practice required Thanks for the feedack guys.

bel29
388 posts
9 Jan 2009 9:12PM
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hi pady

the sl's are pretty fast fins, but don't like to be loaded too much. so you have to be careful with (back)foot pressure, esp at lowers speeds. basically the rule is: get up to speed first, then load.

i haven't tried the new sl2's but in theory they should be closer to the rc's in terms of power

grts

chris

paddymac
WA, 938 posts
13 Jan 2009 9:37PM
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to do a bit of answering my own question .. After a particularly good 30kn catapult I trashed my dakine speed seat and bought a new prolimits seat harness. All of a sudden things clicked - no spin out, could get the front leg out straight easier, load up the fin better, board trim sooo much better. My assessment - the prolimit has the hook really low, the dakine was too big for me and always rode up (chest harness height) - thought I had harness commitment, obviously didn't! Happy camper .

Bender
WA, 2235 posts
13 Jan 2009 10:13PM
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paddymac said...

to do a bit of answering my own question .. After a particularly good 30kn catapult I trashed my dakine speed seat and bought a new prolimits seat harness. All of a sudden things clicked - no spin out, could get the front leg out straight easier, load up the fin better, board trim sooo much better. My assessment - the prolimit has the hook really low, the dakine was too big for me and always rode up (chest harness height) - thought I had harness commitment, obviously didn't! Happy camper .


Good to hear you have found a solution to the dreaded spin outs. Sounds like that you were not getting enough MFP so in turn loading up your fin too much. Wish i could join you at hardies tomorrow. Instead i will be at my local.

Pointman
WA, 437 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:29PM
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Bit of a tangent here, but...anyone used the MFC weedburner?

It appears to be quite narrow, similar to the SL, and I'm wondering if that would hinder its performance?

I'm on the lookout for a fast weedie to use on my Manta 59 when powered up on the 6.6 or 5.8 Koncept and haven't come across anything suitable yet. Choco weedie is only available down to 33cm in tuttle box. Also heard good things about Lessacher, but the website was down today.

I've got a Select weedie 24cm, but so far I've destroyed two bases trying to wedge it into the (admittedly tight) box on the Manta. Time to get out the sander?

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:34PM
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Hi Pointman,

I recently bought the MFC 29 weedy, works really well on my 5.6 Blade, outpointed someone on a 30cm F1 Falcon (similar sail size) which really surprised me.

It's a bit small for my 6.8 Blade when going upwind, but still possible, it feels like it's on the edge of spinout a lot. Works very well on the 5.6 though.

Very happy with this fin, wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

Pointman
WA, 437 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:46PM
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Cheers Nebs, thats the size I was considering.

Sounds like the perfect fin for my next Hardies outing!

Did you get it from Windshack?

Marcel_W
WA, 74 posts
14 Jan 2009 2:49PM
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Yep Pointman, I have a MFC Weedburner 34 that I use all the time. It is a great fin; very stable even in chop, points upwind well, but not particularly fast - never been able to push it beyond 31 knots.

I have also got an MFC SL 38 (actualy "had" untill it fell out at an undisclosed part of the swan river - I am waiting for a low tide to go back with a snorkel and mask). I didn't think too much of the SL - at speeds close to 28 knots it seemed to have strange vibrations even though it was tight in the box.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
14 Jan 2009 3:07PM
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Yep Pointman, from windshack, Alberto seems like a nice guy to deal with.

Ring up first to make sure he's got one in stock.

Regarding speed, the guy I outpointed beat me soundly downwind, but that's usual for him... I haven't tried it enough with other fins to get a good handle on whether it's quick downwind or not. Seems like it's got quite a sharp leading edge which I think is good for speed.

You're welcome to try mine whenever you like. I'll be at Peli Pt thisafternoon if you're keen.

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
20 Jan 2009 5:26PM
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paddymac - hope you dont mind me throwing in another question/going slightly off topic.

The liquid Pro range - for those who have tried them, how do they compare to the RC and SL range? Am looking at a 40-42cm fin for the Futura111/7.5m sail. Wanting to know what the best fin type would be. Will be used in flat to quite choppy conditions.



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