Just wondering if anyone knows how much this complete foil weighs???
I can't seem to find the weight listed anywhere. I've read a few people say they are a bit heavy... but how much do they actually weigh and what's the weight difference between a similar foil from other brands???
cheers
weight will depend on the actual set up as there are different length masts, fuses and wings.
For a 90cm mast, with pedal stool, long fuse, i76 front wing and 42 rear wing. 12.54 lbs
the 926 carbon phantasm with 92 mast, medium fuse and 400 rear wing is 8.2 lbs


weight will depend on the actual set up as there are different length masts, fuses and wings.
For a 90cm mast, with pedal stool, long fuse, i76 front wing and 42 rear wing. 12.54 lbs
the 926 carbon phantasm with 92 mast, medium fuse and 400 rear wing is 8.2 lbs


Awesome, thanks that's really helpful. I'd be curious for others to share weights of their similar sized set ups as well. 90cm mast i76 size wing, 42cm stabiliser etc.... alloy, carbon and or combination. Cheers
This is a comparison of the Moses fuselage and 450 stabilizer with the 633 wing versus the hoverglide with the apollo 60/42 stabilizer. The units seem to be escaping me (grams I guess)

This is a comparison of the Moses fuselage and 450 stabilizer with the 633 wing versus the hoverglide with the apollo 60/42 stabilizer. The units seem to be escaping me (grams I guess)

Cheers, definitely some significant weight differences.
Out of curiosity does anyone know what the Phantasm windsurf 730 foil complete weighs???
The 730 on the long fuse with 92 mast and 400 rear wing weighs 10.04 lbs


Out of curiosity does anyone know what the Phantasm windsurf 730 foil complete weighs???
The 730 on the long fuse with 92 mast and 400 rear wing weighs 10.04 lbs


Awesome, thanks.
Hover Glide i99, short fuse, 48 tail, 90 mast: 6915g/15.2lbs
just the glider: 4182g/9.2lbs
Fanatic Aero HA 1750/300 wing set with 90cm mast and 80cm fuse: 6260g/13.78lbs
just the glider: 3336g/7.34lbs
Moses 790/82mast/710 fuse kit: 3800g/8.4lbs
Moses W1000 glider w/ 647mm fuse and S400 tail: 1785g/3.93lbs
Project Cedrus 90cm mast: 1660g/3.65lbs
My daily driver for winging: Project Cedrus 90cm mast w/ Moses W1000 glider: 3445g/7.58lbs
New NoLimitz foil mast 93cm will cut about 330g of weight compared to the Project Cedrus mast (which is already very light). Hope to get my tester mast soon. 93cm mast is 1330g/2.94lbs
I get my Phantasm 926 wing setup tomorrow.
Hover Glide i99, short fuse, 48 tail, 90 mast: 6915g/15.2lbs
just the glider: 4182g/9.2lbs
Fanatic Aero HA 1750/300 wing set with 90cm mast and 80cm fuse: 6260g/13.78lbs
just the glider: 3336g/7.34lbs
Moses 790/82mast/710 fuse kit: 3800g/8.4lbs
Moses W1000 glider w/ 647mm fuse and S400 tail: 1785g/3.93lbs
Project Cedrus 90cm mast: 1660g/3.65lbs
My daily driver for winging: Project Cedrus 90cm mast w/ Moses W1000 glider: 3445g/7.58lbs
New NoLimitz foil mast 93cm will cut about 330g of weight compared to the Project Cedrus mast (which is already very light). Hope to get my tester mast soon. 93cm mast is 1330g/2.94lbs
I get my Phantasm 926 wing setup tomorrow.
Wow NoLimtz foil mast you learn something everyday.
www.sunsetsailboards.com/products/nolimitz-foil-mast
going into production now and new fuselage interfaces are being made. no firm ETA but some are already done.
www.sunsetsailboards.com/products/nolimitz-foil-mast
going into production now and new fuselage interfaces are being made. no firm ETA but some are already done.
The image shows "85" on the mast. You had mentioned 93cm as the length?
Nice to see options for masts now. ![]()
so far 78, 85, & 93 are in production. they also are doing a smaller one for prone ~70cm
Interesting. Why is NoLimtz good, except weight. Anybody tried them? What is going on with LP; in the same area? Are they working with NoLimtz at all or just left the scene.
so far 78, 85, & 93 are in production. they also are doing a smaller one for prone ~70cm
Interesting. Why is NoLimtz good, except weight. Anybody tried them? What is going on with LP; in the same area? Are they working with NoLimtz at all or just left the scene.
NoLimtz is not just a windsurfing mast company their bread n butter is government contracts for composite parts military drone I've heard.I think they should be able to make a nice foil mast we will have to wait for the results.As far a LP have not heard anything but it would not surprise me to see some of these small guys disappear the foil market is moving real fast.
www.sunsetsailboards.com/products/nolimitz-foil-mast
going into production now and new fuselage interfaces are being made. no firm ETA but some are already done.
Very cool. Do you think we will se the industry unifying around a standard fuselage to mast connection?
so far 78, 85, & 93 are in production. they also are doing a smaller one for prone ~70cm
Interesting. Why is NoLimtz good, except weight. Anybody tried them? What is going on with LP; in the same area? Are they working with NoLimtz at all or just left the scene.
I am getting one for evaluation. Will see how it performs relative to the SABFoil Surf Mast and PC mast.
NoLimitz mast is supposed to be stiff and light, achieved through architecture, materials, and composites manufacturing expertise.
NoLimitz is the house brand of ICE (Innovative Composite Engineering) which primarily makes parts for the aerospace/military/industrial industry.
www.innovativecomposite.com
They also have a recreational sports division which makes bike parts, windsurfing masts, etc... and now foil masts. The owner is into foiling now. My friend is the recreational sports division manager, and he's a badass windsurfer and foiler.
Phantasm PTM 926 Wing Complete Foil: 4209g/9.26lbs
Glider: 2253g/4.96lbs
Carbon Mast 92: 1933g/4.25lbs
710 Fuselage: 958g/2.11lbs
PTM 926 Front Wing: 1088g/2.39lbs
PS400 Rear Wing: 184.5g/0.41lbs
Screws: 45g
Just arrived in the mail. First impressions are that it looks good. Actually rode it at the AWSI show in the Gorge but need to ride it w/ my own equipment to make a full impression.
QC/finish quality seems better than HoverGlide but not as good as Fanatic or SABFoil. Good enough but some rough corners on front wing. Fit of the wings to fuselage is good. Fit of the fuselage onto the mast is tight... might need a mallet.
Phantasm PTM 926 Wing Complete Foil: 4209g/9.26lbs
Glider: 2253g/4.96lbs
Carbon Mast 92: 1933g/4.25lbs
710 Fuselage: 958g/2.11lbs
PTM 926 Front Wing: 1088g/2.39lbs
PS400 Rear Wing: 184.5g/0.41lbs
Screws: 45g
Just arrived in the mail. First impressions are that it looks good. Actually rode it at the AWSI show in the Gorge but need to ride it w/ my own equipment to make a full impression.
QC/finish quality seems better than HoverGlide but not as good as Fanatic or SABFoil. Good enough but some rough corners on front wing. Fit of the wings to fuselage is good. Fit of the fuselage onto the mast is tight... might need a mallet.
Smear some of that grease they send in the bag on the mast foot and its no issue connecting in or out of the fuse.