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Slingshot Phantasm 730 test & review (video)

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Created by CoreAS > 9 months ago, 31 Oct 2021
CoreAS
923 posts
31 Oct 2021 11:40PM
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Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)


azymuth
WA, 2156 posts
1 Nov 2021 6:32AM
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CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)





Awesome review Dean
Summarises the Infinity 76 to Phantasm 730 progression perfectly.

Worth mentioning at the lower price point the Hoverglide Infinity 76 is still an epic foil package for quick learning and for intermediates who want to get out in the ocean and start to rip waves and downwinders
Change the fuse/mast bolts to stainless steel and replace the fuselage every year or so - no biggy - worth it for the performance
All the foils I've seen have some issues, pretty impossible to design out everything without adding $$ or possibly over-engineering.

CoreAS
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1 Nov 2021 8:11AM
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CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)






Awesome review Dean
Summarises the Infinity 76 to Phantasm 730 progression perfectly.

Worth mentioning at the lower price point the Hoverglide Infinity 76 is still an epic foil package for quick learning and for intermediates who want to get out in the ocean and start to rip waves and downwinders
Change the fuse/mast bolts to stainless steel and replace the fuselage every year or so - no biggy - worth it for the performance
All the foils I've seen have some issues, pretty impossible to design out everything without adding $$ or possibly over-engineering.


Hover glide and i76 is still the go to foil for beginner/entry onwards and dialing in your transitions etc. don't tell anyone but I still use the HG and i84 for winging in certain conditions


I never had an issue with hardware the whole time on fresh water lakes either. Still used the SS hardware and everything.

now here in Florida the salt is brutal but as we say stripping down and maintaining is the key. My joints and ligaments favor the phantasm when getting out through the shore dump and lifting up, I don't get tomahawked on the head as much, ha!

WsurfAustin
652 posts
1 Nov 2021 8:12AM
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Thanks CoreAS,
Good to get some feedback. I'm on the fence about which mast I would want when it comes time to upgrade. Some extra length sounds nice, they all sound plenty rigid for my 140lbs.

thedoor
2470 posts
1 Nov 2021 8:36AM
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The beauty of hoverglide is the large number of wing models to choose from and its adaptability.

The switch fuse meant that different wings would still work with a tuttle box and it would work with tuttle and track systems.

There might be some cheaper brands out there, but they don't have the cross section of available wings at this stage.

The other good thing about hoverglide is that everything worked with everything. Other brands often lack compatibility between one range and another, meaning that your windfoil wings or fuse won't work on your winging mast etc

Not to mention hoverglide is all still being supported with new wings and you you could even add a phantasm lower to your old hoverglide.

I have put many many miles on hoverglide over the past three or so years, nearly as many miles as JJ I reckon, and I snaped one fuse and three bolts. The fuse snap probably wasn't helped by the fact that I never rinsed my gear. Now I am much better about rinsing gear especially as I am not on more expensive carbon stuff.

Hoverglide is a great entry level system for those looking to dabble in freeride foiling and it grows with you and it doesn't become obsolete when you switch sports.

And the infinity 76 has to one of the best beginner to beyond wings every made. Certainly there are wings with more advanced characteristics available now, but they do not really become relevant until you reach a strong intermediate level.

TL/DR: I think the most important thing to considering when choosing a foil line is versatility (eg usable for different foiling sports), forward compatibility (we don't want things to become obsolete) and a wide range of front wing options.

CoreAS
923 posts
1 Nov 2021 9:08AM
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All very valid points the door, the i76 was well ahead in terms of wing design. I still remember the very first time on that foil and the grin factor was off the charts.

Eventually every Infinity wing will be available in phantasm PFI version, plus a HA wing and at least 2 rear wings to choose from.
Now that SS has gone track system only, that may not please everyone but when the wallet allows going double tracked board and having micro adjustments over A,B or C is so valuable, it's night and day difference. Sometimes tuning the foiling 0.5cm or 3/8" will change the performance and give you confidence to push harder.
My board stance has changed with the phantasm. Foil feels more neutral between my feet, and much less pitchy.

azymuth
WA, 2156 posts
1 Nov 2021 1:54PM
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thedoor said..
The beauty of hoverglide is the large number of wing models to choose from and its adaptability.

The switch fuse meant that different wings would still work with a tuttle box and it would work with tuttle and track systems.

There might be some cheaper brands out there, but they don't have the cross section of available wings at this stage.

The other good thing about hoverglide is that everything worked with everything. Other brands often lack compatibility between one range and another, meaning that your windfoil wings or fuse won't work on your winging mast etc

Not to mention hoverglide is all still being supported with new wings and you you could even add a phantasm lower to your old hoverglide.

I have put many many miles on hoverglide over the past three or so years, nearly as many miles as JJ I reckon, and I snaped one fuse and three bolts. The fuse snap probably wasn't helped by the fact that I never rinsed my gear. Now I am much better about rinsing gear especially as I am not on more expensive carbon stuff.

Hoverglide is a great entry level system for those looking to dabble in freeride foiling and it grows with you and it doesn't become obsolete when you switch sports.

And the infinity 76 has to one of the best beginner to beyond wings every made. Certainly there are wings with more advanced characteristics available now, but they do not really become relevant until you reach a strong intermediate level.

TL/DR: I think the most important thing to considering when choosing a foil line is versatility (eg usable for different foiling sports), forward compatibility (we don't want things to become obsolete) and a wide range of front wing options.


Brilliant - 100% agree

joe87879
57 posts
1 Nov 2021 7:35PM
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Great review Dean.

What are your thoughts on the PTM vs PFI?
You mention you would use the PTM 926 for low wind - what about the PFI 928? Is it just a speed thing?

Joe

CoreAS
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1 Nov 2021 9:40PM
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Great review Dean.

What are your thoughts on the PTM vs PFI?
You mention you would use the PTM 926 for low wind - what about the PFI 928? Is it just a speed thing?

Joe


I have not tried the PFI 928 but its basically the i99 that's a bit thinner and narrower. I should imagine it has great low end and stall speed but you always give up something and that would be turning, carving and speed.

Fastest I had the i99 was around 16 mph the PTM 926 is 21 mph (in 12-13 mph winds)

The PTM 926 is not for entry level, it does take off very well in light winds but takes more pumping technique. As with most HA wings you will get longer glide and more time to adjust in gybes with speed, but you have to be committed, a HA wing is not as forgiving as LA.

Rewind
NSW, 98 posts
17 Nov 2021 10:46PM
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CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)





Hey Mate, looking to get into the new Phantasm gear.

Have been sailing the HG gear (i76 & i65) but with the shorter fuse for windfoiling. I found the shorter mast gave more carving ability in the waves. Only used the long fuse in real choppy conditions to calm things down.

Have you tried the Phantasm shorter fuse with the 730 or 926? Just wondering which fuse to go for.

Going to be using the Phantasm gear for wind foil and wing foil so will need the short fuse just not sure if I need the long one.

also have you tried the PTM1001 yet?

CoreAS
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18 Nov 2021 12:22AM
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CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)






Hey Mate, looking to get into the new Phantasm gear.

Have been sailing the HG gear (i76 & i65) but with the shorter fuse for windfoiling. I found the shorter mast gave more carving ability in the waves. Only used the long fuse in real choppy conditions to calm things down.

Have you tried the Phantasm shorter fuse with the 730 or 926? Just wondering which fuse to go for.

Going to be using the Phantasm gear for wind foil and wing foil so will need the short fuse just not sure if I need the long one.

also have you tried the PTM1001 yet?


Hi Shorebreak

That's interesting that you prefer the HG short fuse for windfoiling, I always found the short fuse a bit pitchy especially in the gybes.

I have always used the long fuse for both wind and wing foiling (with the HG et up) but with phantasm I use the long fuse for wind foiling and switch over to the short fuse for winging.

You can use the long fuse for winging if its windy but in light winds the foil does not pop up very easily, the short fuse is much easier to wing foil pump.

Not sure if this actually helps you make a decision on choosing one length fuse! If we get some wind this weekend I'll see if I can test the short fuse with wind foil.

Lastly, I have the PTM1001 on order so haven't tested that wing yet, I'm hoping the shipping container is not buried at the L.A. port with all the Christmas stuff

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18 Nov 2021 12:15PM
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CoreAS said..


Shorebreak said..



CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)








Hey Mate, looking to get into the new Phantasm gear.

Have been sailing the HG gear (i76 & i65) but with the shorter fuse for windfoiling. I found the shorter mast gave more carving ability in the waves. Only used the long fuse in real choppy conditions to calm things down.

Have you tried the Phantasm shorter fuse with the 730 or 926? Just wondering which fuse to go for.

Going to be using the Phantasm gear for wind foil and wing foil so will need the short fuse just not sure if I need the long one.

also have you tried the PTM1001 yet?




Hi Shorebreak

That's interesting that you prefer the HG short fuse for windfoiling, I always found the short fuse a bit pitchy especially in the gybes.

I have always used the long fuse for both wind and wing foiling (with the HG et up) but with phantasm I use the long fuse for wind foiling and switch over to the short fuse for winging.

You can use the long fuse for winging if its windy but in light winds the foil does not pop up very easily, the short fuse is much easier to wing foil pump.

Not sure if this actually helps you make a decision on choosing one length fuse! If we get some wind this weekend I'll see if I can test the short fuse with wind foil.

Lastly, I have the PTM1001 on order so haven't tested that wing yet, I'm hoping the shipping container is not buried at the L.A. port with all the Christmas stuff



Thanks for the reply, I'll be interested to hear how you go with both the short fuse and the 1001 when it turns up.

Looks like the phantasm short fuse has the mast a lot further forward than the HG. The HG mast needed to be a lot further back in the tracks on a mates Naish board than his Naish mast. We worked out it was because of the long 'neck' on the HG front foils.

I found, with the mast all the way to the front of the tracks on the i76, the Wizard 114 was balanced for winging and the front inboard straps were in the perfect spot. I wonder if this is the case with the different Phantasm short fuse. Are you using a dedicated wing board or a Wizard when winging?

CoreAS
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18 Nov 2021 10:47PM
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Shorebreak said..

CoreAS said..



Shorebreak said..




CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)









Hey Mate, looking to get into the new Phantasm gear.

Have been sailing the HG gear (i76 & i65) but with the shorter fuse for windfoiling. I found the shorter mast gave more carving ability in the waves. Only used the long fuse in real choppy conditions to calm things down.

Have you tried the Phantasm shorter fuse with the 730 or 926? Just wondering which fuse to go for.

Going to be using the Phantasm gear for wind foil and wing foil so will need the short fuse just not sure if I need the long one.

also have you tried the PTM1001 yet?





Hi Shorebreak

That's interesting that you prefer the HG short fuse for windfoiling, I always found the short fuse a bit pitchy especially in the gybes.

I have always used the long fuse for both wind and wing foiling (with the HG et up) but with phantasm I use the long fuse for wind foiling and switch over to the short fuse for winging.

You can use the long fuse for winging if its windy but in light winds the foil does not pop up very easily, the short fuse is much easier to wing foil pump.

Not sure if this actually helps you make a decision on choosing one length fuse! If we get some wind this weekend I'll see if I can test the short fuse with wind foil.

Lastly, I have the PTM1001 on order so haven't tested that wing yet, I'm hoping the shipping container is not buried at the L.A. port with all the Christmas stuff




Thanks for the reply, I'll be interested to hear how you go with both the short fuse and the 1001 when it turns up.

Looks like the phantasm short fuse has the mast a lot further forward than the HG. The HG mast needed to be a lot further back in the tracks on a mates Naish board than his Naish mast. We worked out it was because of the long 'neck' on the HG front foils.

I found, with the mast all the way to the front of the tracks on the i76, the Wizard 114 was balanced for winging and the front inboard straps were in the perfect spot. I wonder if this is the case with the different Phantasm short fuse. Are you using a dedicated wing board or a Wizard when winging?


Using the short phantasm fuse is going to bring the front wing further back that's for sure and yes depending on each HG front wing and they all have different necks. On the wizard 130 these are my track settings for infinity wings.

i76 at 1.5
i84 at 5
i99 at 6.5

The wizard 130 didn't come with the inboard front straps for winging but you can still use it OK, I just moved the HG foil all the way to the very front.

I use a dedicated board for winging, the Takuma 5'8" x 27 @ 95 liters. Takuma foils like to be mounted far forward into he tracks but Phantasm and HG foils are set much further back. This is catching some people out when you mix and match foils and board brands the center of lift is all over the place.

Just got notification the PTM1001 is on its way so I'll post a report when I get to try it out.

In the pic this was first day testing the Phantasm PTM926 for winging and was using the longer fuse and it was a good wind, that foil is very quick, it smokes upwind.



CoreAS
923 posts
18 Nov 2021 10:56PM
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How the long fuse and short fuse lines up of the mast was in the same position


sl55
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19 Nov 2021 8:12AM
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CoreAS said..

Shorebreak said..


CoreAS said..




Shorebreak said..





CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)










Hey Mate, looking to get into the new Phantasm gear.

Have been sailing the HG gear (i76 & i65) but with the shorter fuse for windfoiling. I found the shorter mast gave more carving ability in the waves. Only used the long fuse in real choppy conditions to calm things down.

Have you tried the Phantasm shorter fuse with the 730 or 926? Just wondering which fuse to go for.

Going to be using the Phantasm gear for wind foil and wing foil so will need the short fuse just not sure if I need the long one.

also have you tried the PTM1001 yet?






Hi Shorebreak

That's interesting that you prefer the HG short fuse for windfoiling, I always found the short fuse a bit pitchy especially in the gybes.

I have always used the long fuse for both wind and wing foiling (with the HG et up) but with phantasm I use the long fuse for wind foiling and switch over to the short fuse for winging.

You can use the long fuse for winging if its windy but in light winds the foil does not pop up very easily, the short fuse is much easier to wing foil pump.

Not sure if this actually helps you make a decision on choosing one length fuse! If we get some wind this weekend I'll see if I can test the short fuse with wind foil.

Lastly, I have the PTM1001 on order so haven't tested that wing yet, I'm hoping the shipping container is not buried at the L.A. port with all the Christmas stuff





Thanks for the reply, I'll be interested to hear how you go with both the short fuse and the 1001 when it turns up.

Looks like the phantasm short fuse has the mast a lot further forward than the HG. The HG mast needed to be a lot further back in the tracks on a mates Naish board than his Naish mast. We worked out it was because of the long 'neck' on the HG front foils.

I found, with the mast all the way to the front of the tracks on the i76, the Wizard 114 was balanced for winging and the front inboard straps were in the perfect spot. I wonder if this is the case with the different Phantasm short fuse. Are you using a dedicated wing board or a Wizard when winging?



Using the short phantasm fuse is going to bring the front wing further back that's for sure and yes depending on each HG front wing and they all have different necks. On the wizard 130 these are my track settings for infinity wings.

i76 at 1.5
i84 at 5
i99 at 6.5

The wizard 130 didn't come with the inboard front straps for winging but you can still use it OK, I just moved the HG foil all the way to the very front.

I use a dedicated board for winging, the Takuma 5'8" x 27 @ 95 liters. Takuma foils like to be mounted far forward into he tracks but Phantasm and HG foils are set much further back. This is catching some people out when you mix and match foils and board brands the center of lift is all over the place.

Just got notification the PTM1001 is on its way so I'll post a report when I get to try it out.

In the pic this was first day testing the Phantasm PTM926 for winging and was using the longer fuse and it was a good wind, that foil is very quick, it smokes upwind.




Dean, you mentioned 1001 is on the way. Does it mean that the container made it to the US shores?

OldGuy3
165 posts
21 Nov 2021 12:56AM
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Deep and medium Tuttle box plate adapter for Phantasm. Received an email from SS with a link to an adapter plate. Bit pricey. But for those of us with Tuttle only and are happy with the board. Bit pricey, but an option. Allows the Tuttle insert to be positioned in 4 locations for fine tuning of mast location. Also, back compatible with the HG pedestal. They also have switched from Ti mast/fuse mounting bolts to stainless steel.

ZeroVix
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21 Nov 2021 2:46AM
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Deep and medium Tuttle box plate adapter for Phantasm. Received an email from SS with a link to an adapter plate. Bit pricey. But for those of us with Tuttle only and are happy with the board. Bit pricey, but an option. Allows the Tuttle insert to be positioned in 4 locations for fine tuning of mast location. Also, back compatible with the HG pedestal. They also have switched from Ti mast/fuse mounting bolts to stainless steel.


The adjustments on the Jack Plate look a little weird. At least there is an option. Nice concept.

SA_AL
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15 Feb 2022 1:32AM
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CoreAS said..
Its been a lot of fun testing both the phantasm PFI 730 (and PTM 926) so if you are a fan of the infinity 76 wing you will love the PFI 730.

The i76 was my first slingshot foil that I ordered 3 years ago with one mission at that time and it was to get the perfect foiling gybe.
The hover glide foil disadvantages have been well documented on the forum, with salt water bolt and corrosion issues, foil weight etc. and I feel the phantasm 730 has addressed all of them.

I have tested the PFI 730 many times before making the video and for my weight (200lbs/90kg) feel that in winds 14 to 24+mph will be the sweet spot.

If the wind is 8 to 14+ I will use the PTM 926 HA

Slingshot has many HA and LA wings coming down the pipe for high winds, stay tuned for that (there will be a PTM high aspect 730 as well)




Hi Dean,
Have you tried any wide Phantasm masts (V2) with your set up? It looks like the wider masts are more stiff and if this would be better for >200 lbs weight riders?

jims
138 posts
15 Feb 2022 5:04AM
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If reincarnation is a thing, when I die, I think I want to come back as Dean... :-)

CoreAS
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15 Feb 2022 10:31AM
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If reincarnation is a thing, when I die, I think I want to come back as Dean... :-)


Jim, just move to Florida, it's the closest I can find to heavenly foiling conditions

OldGuy3
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18 Feb 2022 11:45PM
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CoreAS, thanks for the info and impressions. Have you had an opportunity to compare the Wide vs. std carbon vs. aluminum masts?
Happy that SS has come out with an adapter to allow us HG users to use our HG aluminum mast on the Phantasm bottoms.
Deep tuttle board. The two adapters would total up to over $360usd:(. Maybe an "excuse" for a new board:)? Sort of been lusting for the SS 114.

CoreAS
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23 Feb 2022 8:59AM
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CoreAS, thanks for the info and impressions. Have you had an opportunity to compare the Wide vs. std carbon vs. aluminum masts?
Happy that SS has come out with an adapter to allow us HG users to use our HG aluminum mast on the Phantasm bottoms.
Deep tuttle board. The two adapters would total up to over $360usd:(. Maybe an "excuse" for a new board:)? Sort of been lusting for the SS 114.


Hi Oldguy

i have only tested the standard phantasm masts (92, 82 and 72cm) the longer and wider versions are a tad too long for Floridas shallow banana and Indian rivers.
Regarding using the phantasm lowers with existing aluminum HG masts might be financially tempting but in my very humble opinion would be like driving an Ferrari with a ford fiesta engine. The phantasm masts are super stiff and are the absolute engine of that foil system. They are worth every penny.
Sell the kids, grandmother and/or wife whatever it takes buy the complete package, it'll be worth it

Grantmac
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23 Feb 2022 9:38AM
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The better masts are the biggest reason to get on the phantasm system. HG masts are a noodle.

Paducah
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23 Feb 2022 12:09PM
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The best reason for the adapters is so that you can buy one of the longer carbon masts for all their benefits but still be able to use the alu masts for that once in a while in a shallow water location. Havng said that, my friend who has gone Phantasm insists he'll still use his Hover Glide someday but I haven't seen it get wet since the arrival of his Phantasm.

CoreAS
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24 Feb 2022 12:47AM
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The best reason for the adapters is so that you can buy one of the longer carbon masts for all their benefits but still be able to use the alu masts for that once in a while in a shallow water location. Havng said that, my friend who has gone Phantasm insists he'll still use his Hover Glide someday but I haven't seen it get wet since the arrival of his Phantasm.


I still kept the HG for the same "shallow water" reason, I do/kind of use the HG for SUP foiling as I am still learning that craft and don't want to screw up the carbon until I get better, but now that I have shorter phantasm masts it won't be long before the inevitable happens

segler
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24 Feb 2022 9:37PM
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Nobody has (yet) commented on the Moses W105 mast. Can anybody compare it with the others?



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