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Created by azymuth > 9 months ago, 12 Oct 2022
azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
12 Oct 2022 7:41AM
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October 2017 vs yesterday
Can't make up my mind whether it's a big change or not over 5 years...

Boards - 121 vs 87L
Foils - 1500 vs 920cm2
Sails - pretty much the same

tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
12 Oct 2022 11:34AM
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Looking back the grass is always greener.

azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
12 Oct 2022 8:39AM
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tbwonder said..
Looking back the grass is always greener.


10 out of 10

powersloshin
NSW, 1836 posts
13 Oct 2022 7:08AM
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I think the original Naish wing was about 1250...that I bought off you and started my windfoil career

CoreAS
923 posts
13 Oct 2022 4:44AM
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awesome! it's fun to compare from the beginning till present time! We had a great group in Dallas that would all buy different foils and we got to test a ton of different foil and board set ups.

Still remember that thrill getting up and flying on the NP pinky (after a disaster on the Horue foil) then getting the NP/F4 and then the 2018 Naish the same you had JJ....we couldn't get foiling though on a 4.7 in 10 knots though.....but that would come many 100's of hours of foiling later.

I was also proud of my tuttle box RRD slalom board that turned into custom twin track and new custom "off set" foot strap positions....
good times











azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
13 Oct 2022 8:46AM
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powersloshin said..
I think the original Naish wing was about 1250...that I bought off you and started my windfoil career


How long did you use it for?

azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
13 Oct 2022 8:56AM
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CoreAS said..
awesome! it's fun to compare from the beginning till present time! We had a great group in Dallas that would all buy different foils and we got to test a ton of different foil and board set ups.

Still remember that thrill getting up and flying on the NP pinky (after a disaster on the Horue foil) then getting the NP/F4 and then the 2018 Naish the same you had JJ....we couldn't get foiling though on a 4.7 in 10 knots though.....but that would come many 100's of hours of foiling later.

I was also proud of my tuttle box RRD slalom board that turned into custom twin track and new custom "off set" foot strap positions....
good times












The Naish vid that got us all frothing



powersloshin
NSW, 1836 posts
13 Oct 2022 1:18PM
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azymuth said..
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How long did you use it for?


The first few months, but didn't have a proper board and didn't know how to balance the rig, then I went to the longer fuse and a foil board and I was able to be a lot more stable. I would like to try it again now that I know what I'm doing, but I sold it. I am really happy to have started foiling, love it and do almost nothing else.




DarrylG
WA, 503 posts
13 Oct 2022 11:14AM
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Original Horue GP and 85 wide slalom board. Photo around 2016. Still have the board and foil sitting in a corner:))
Things have improved massively since then.




tbwonder
NSW, 730 posts
13 Oct 2022 10:16PM
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This is the earliest pic I have of me foiling in Mar 2018. This was within the first week. The still picture certainly does not tell the full story.
Looking back, I made it hard for myself.



azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
13 Oct 2022 8:09PM
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DarrylG said..
Original Horue GP and 85 wide slalom board. Photo around 2016. Still have the board and foil sitting in a corner:))
Things have improved massively since then.




I remember when you turned up at Melville with the Horue. I think you were the first in Perth?

DarrylG
WA, 503 posts
14 Oct 2022 7:13AM
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azymuth said..

DarrylG said..
Original Horue GP and 85 wide slalom board. Photo around 2016. Still have the board and foil sitting in a corner:))
Things have improved massively since then.




I remember when you turned up at Melville with the Horue. I think you were the first in Perth?


May 2015 is when I got the foil, but it took a little while to get setup. :))))

snides8
WA, 1731 posts
14 Oct 2022 10:49AM
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azymuth said..


DarrylG said..
Original Horue GP and 85 wide slalom board. Photo around 2016. Still have the board and foil sitting in a corner:))
Things have improved massively since then.




I remember when you turned up at Melville with the Horue. I think you were the first in Perth?



Daz the trendsetter followed by Sean and some old bugger!

obenebo
NSW, 56 posts
14 Oct 2022 3:46PM
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MFC from 2017, still ripping and good as new. Pictured with medium and most used wing ~670cm2, also came with ~970cm2 and a tiny ~450cm2, and 2 tail wings. They got it right first time.



thedoor
2469 posts
14 Oct 2022 2:19PM
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MFC from 2017, still ripping and good as new. Pictured with medium and most used wing ~670cm2, also came with ~970cm2 and a tiny ~450cm2, and 2 tail wings. They got it right first time.




It does look pretty nice, esp for 2017

Paducah
2784 posts
14 Oct 2022 8:54PM
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Feb 17. Used Horue GP just arrived. Ordering an XLW wing (1000ish) for it was a worth it. It flew on my 'everything is too far forward' Starboard Freeformula much better with two washers under the front stab screw. But we were so preoccupied with a 'flat stab is faster' thing that it took way too long to do that.


utcminusfour
749 posts
14 Oct 2022 10:49PM
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April of 2017-After 20 years away from windsurfing I got a used and user friendly fin set up to see if my dream of windfoiling was even a possibility for me physically. My first sail I was exhausted before I even made it to the water!

July of 2017- I picked up a used Horue Vini and a custom 120l board from shaper Dwight Fisher. He was well into Wing at that point and gave me a screaming deal on the packedge. Looking back I can't think of a harder kit for me to start with!

Late 2018 switched to Mosses. Things got way easier!

2019 I rode my super wide high volume home brew. The float and width gave confidence that I could always get in and this encouraged me to push my limits! It also taught me that you need a wide board for big sails but if you have a wide board you NEED to use bigger sails to get it flying.

For the past two years it's been the Sled and the Mosses 1100. Sail sizes are down two full meters and required wind dropped from 15 to 10 knots! Riding waves and freestyle are the focus now.

Yesterday I picked up a used 80cm Go foil plate mast. I am looking forward to learning what it has to teach.



















Sandman1221
2776 posts
14 Oct 2022 11:45PM
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I almost went with the Horue package with two front wings, was a deal at $1800, but the wings looked odd and figured the largest was too small for light winds, think I was right. So got the AFS Wind95 with F1080 wing, then F770 and S670 wings, S670 wing is so easy to control in gusts with front foot pressure, no worrying about a gust causing a breach. And using a Goya Bolt 135 slalom board, did make some scale drawing on grid paper to make sure foil would balance on the Bolt, it did just barely (did that because of Segler's video posted here). Still happy with kit from 8-9 knots to 25-30 knots. And both foil and board have taken lots of hard hits and are still solid, through I did have to epoxy in new wing insert in fuselage after gust picked up the whole kit and threw it 30 feet down the beach and wrenched the wing inserts partially out of the fuselage, but no other damage to foil or rest of kit. And Aerotech Freespeed and high wind Phantom sails have worked great, and taken lots of body and hook hits with only minor damage that was repaired with Gorilla black and clear tapes.

Been thinking about the new AFS foil and 900 wing, but at 1000 mm wide it would be best on a wide foil board IMO. And Really like the weight of the 7.6 kg Bolt, can pick up whole kit and carry to water if needed, but usually just drag kit with board upside down and nose guard dragging on beach.


Painted wide black stripes white so Florida sun can not cook board, the Rustoleum enamel paint took 7 days to cure, but is holding up great, no evidence of wear (did top coat with clear enamel). Also added deck pads in front of front foot pads, to cover concave ridge running around recessed deck, that along with a 3/4" PCV mast base shim keeps mast from damaging deck, AND the new deck pads are good for tacking and uphauling.


duzzi
1120 posts
15 Oct 2022 2:35PM
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2017: a couple of tries on a JP slalom 135 I modified for a friend and NP alu foil. Never lifted off.

Late 2018: bought a Flikka and Taaroa Noe, did not really go anywhere.

Late 2019: sold the Taaroa and bought a Moses 790, did my best run ever at 100 yards long. Quite out of control and strangely enough immortalized by a friend from the beach. But never followed up with anything better.

2020-2022: maybe a total of eight times out, most recent this last September. Underpowered and slogging, or overpowered and keeping the board down.

In the mean time, on a fin, about 80-100 times/year with an all new Point-7 quiver for B&J and slalom. New boards are a Futura 71, AV Modena 88 and now a Patrik Slalom 122. Having a blast with the Modena 88 and Point-7 ACZ 6.8 below.

I am guessing: FIN FOREVER!







seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
16 Oct 2022 9:35AM
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nov 2016
manta foil !!!!


Now on sab/moses

antonmik
145 posts
17 Oct 2022 4:46PM
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seanhogan said..
nov 2016
manta foil !!!!


Now on sab/moses



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seanhogan said..
nov 2016
manta foil !!!!


Now on sab/moses


my first hydrofoil. When the wind is ragged there is an aqua rodeo.



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