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New Slingshot phantasm wings

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Created by CoreAS > 9 months ago, 15 Sep 2022
CoreAS
923 posts
15 Sep 2022 5:37AM
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Got some testing to do now against the PTM926 which has been an absolute beast for wind and wing foiling. I have probably spent 75% of my foiling on the 926 in the past year. The 926 will now be part of the phantasm G series wings moving forward.
new front wings to test
1. PTM930 - much more higher aspect than 926 the 930 area is 950cm and aspect ratio 9.10.
2. PFI684 - hoping this will be a nice high wind and controllable wing in super rough conditions.


waiting on the PTM825 which by all accounts is also a higher wind and high aspect front wing that gives you serious zoom zoom and carve-ability.

azymuth
WA, 2156 posts
15 Sep 2022 6:28AM
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Nice Dean - interested in whether you feel much difference between the 926 and 930.

Tested the 684 - fast considering it's shape and fun but similar in performance to my cutdown 926 so I passed.

Can't wait to hear how you find the PTM 825

aeroegnr
1735 posts
15 Sep 2022 6:58AM
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azymuth said..
Nice Dean - interested in whether you feel much difference between the 926 and 930.

Tested the 684 - fast considering it's shape and fun but similar in performance to my cutdown 926 so I passed.

Can't wait to hear how you find the PTM 825


Same. The 930 looks a lot faster than the 926. Wondering how it compares to the SB 900

KDog
364 posts
15 Sep 2022 8:01AM
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Now that we have some numbers to go by indeed the PTM are going to be fast and I was surprised by the lower sq. cm area of the 930 that 825 will probably be a bit twitchy for most folks? What I would like to see is the specs. on the G800 and what the thickness profile looks like if its just a little slower than the PTM that could be the foil to have in wave or big swell.

CoreAS
923 posts
15 Sep 2022 10:48AM
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azymuth said..
Nice Dean - interested in whether you feel much difference between the 926 and 930.

Tested the 684 - fast considering it's shape and fun but similar in performance to my cutdown 926 so I passed.

Can't wait to hear how you find the PTM 825


I actually got the 684 a while back but wanted to test in over 20 mph, may have to wait a bit longer for some north winds. Im wondering though if the ptm825 will check that box, I have one place in mind to test both of them and it will be in decent WWF conditions.
the overall feedback I've heard on the ptm930 is it's definitely a glider, bit more work to pump up but your rewarded with speed and glide

CoreAS
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15 Sep 2022 10:50AM
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KDog said..
Now that we have some numbers to go by indeed the PTM are going to be fast and I was surprised by the lower sq. cm area of the 930 that 825 will probably be a bit twitchy for most folks? What I would like to see is the specs. on the G800 and what the thickness profile looks like if its just a little slower than the PTM that could be the foil to have in wave or big swell.


I'll see what I can find on the G series specs.

2keen
WA, 372 posts
15 Sep 2022 4:22PM
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KDog said..
Now that we have some numbers to go by indeed the PTM are going to be fast and I was surprised by the lower sq. cm area of the 930 that 825 will probably be a bit twitchy for most folks? What I would like to see is the specs. on the G800 and what the thickness profile looks like if its just a little slower than the PTM that could be the foil to have in wave or big swell.


Agree 100% KDog. Dean, let us know if you get hold of a G800. Could be just the foil for powered up wave and swell riding

Clemop
73 posts
15 Sep 2022 8:58PM
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is the 930 cambered or pretty flat?
I am waiting for a HA flat wing for my sabfoil for prone foiling...

CoreAS
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15 Sep 2022 11:53PM
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Clemop said..
is the 930 cambered or pretty flat?
I am waiting for a HA flat wing for my sabfoil for prone foiling...


Has a camber




thedoor
2470 posts
16 Sep 2022 12:24AM
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CoreAS said..

Clemop said..
is the 930 cambered or pretty flat?
I am waiting for a HA flat wing for my sabfoil for prone foiling...



Has a camber





Nice looking wings. Sucks how covid really stalled phantasm launch glad things are starting to roll out

Very tidy work bench too :)

Paducah
2787 posts
16 Sep 2022 12:35AM
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CoreAS meant to say ...
Has a camber Has anhedral tips.



ftfy. Camber is a front to back characteristic.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_configuration#Dihedral_and_anhedral

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camber_(aerodynamics)

CoreAS
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16 Sep 2022 1:52AM
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Paducah said..

CoreAS meant to say ...
Has a camber Has anhedral tips.




ftfy. Camber is a front to back characteristic.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_configuration#Dihedral_and_anhedral

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camber_(aerodynamics)


LOL....that's why I stay out of any and all engineering threads.... way above my pay grade



I agree Roland, the covid really messed things up but very happy to see the new gear rolling out, I will have plenty to test and will make plenty of videos and reviews etc.

Clemop
73 posts
16 Sep 2022 3:06AM
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thank you coreas! that was exactly what i want to know! is it more or less "cambered" than the ptm926?



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