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JP Hydrofoil 135 with Starboard Freeride Plus 2021 foil

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Created by GoncaloMS > 9 months ago, 19 Jun 2021
GoncaloMS
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19 Jun 2021 7:53AM
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I was trying to put a Starboard Freeride Plus 2021 foil on the JP 135. The head of the foil mast fits in the box of the board, but the threads of the mast are not lined up with the holes of the board, so i can't tight the screws.
Does anyone had the same problem? How to fix this?
Thanks

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
19 Jun 2021 8:22AM
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GoncaloMS said..
I was trying to put a Starboard Freeride Plus 2021 foil on the JP 135. The head of the foil mast fits in the box of the board, but the threads of the mast are not lined up with the holes of the board, so i can't tight the screws.
Does anyone had the same problem? How to fix this?
Thanks




They do misalign the holes on the board from time to time. The solution is to use a drill (or small file) to oval out the hole of the board in the direction for the bolt to fit through.

don't fret about removing material from the hole. The box is a solid piece, so the board won't leak.

GoncaloMS
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20 Jun 2021 2:09AM
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Thanks, it looks a good option

windfred
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20 Jun 2021 7:53AM
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My solution would be to sell the Starboard and buy a Moses foil.
Seriously though, if you have access to another foil or two I'd bolt others on to see if it's the board or the foil that's misaligned before I started drilling. Once determined I'd then see if you can get it replaced as a manufacturing defect.
This stuff is to expensive to settle for sub par products.

good luck

tonyk
QLD, 595 posts
20 Jun 2021 11:02AM
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GoncaloMS said..
I was trying to put a Starboard Freeride Plus 2021 foil on the JP 135. The head of the foil mast fits in the box of the board, but the threads of the mast are not lined up with the holes of the board, so i can't tight the screws.
Does anyone had the same problem? How to fix this?
Thanks


If you have a Starboard Deep Tuttle Mast / JP Foil Board
Someone with windfoil experience will have the starboard and jp coupled together in 10mins or less
Those two items are put together all around the world on a daily basis including where I sail
Cheers
TK

Subsonic
WA, 3354 posts
20 Jun 2021 2:24PM
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windfred said..
My solution would be to sell the Starboard and buy a Moses foil.
Seriously though, if you have access to another foil or two I'd bolt others on to see if it's the board or the foil that's misaligned before I started drilling. Once determined I'd then see if you can get it replaced as a manufacturing defect.
This stuff is to expensive to settle for sub par products.

good luck


Normally id agree with checking, but the starboard foils are mass produced, with moulded parts that are fitted together at the factory. That coupled with the fact that it wouldn't be the first jp i've seen where the holes are wrong, I can almost guarantee its the board holes that are wrong.

while its disappointing that they didn't get it right, unless its completely wrong, i'd take the half hour of inconvenience over a loooong wait. Especially with all the shipping delays/back logs at the moment.

RuddeBos
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20 Jun 2021 3:43PM
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I've fitted both the Starboard carbon masts 85/95 and aluminium 85 masts into jp 135's 2019, 135 2020, and jp120 with no problem at all.
are you sure that it's just the holes in the wrong position?
it could be that the barrel nuts need rotating to align the threads to the direction of the foil bolts..as I had to do that with the 85 carbon mast

Subsonic
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20 Jun 2021 6:24PM
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RuddeBos said..
I've fitted both the Starboard carbon masts 85/95 and aluminium 85 masts into jp 135's 2019, 135 2020, and jp120 with no problem at all.
are you sure that it's just the holes in the wrong position?
it could be that the barrel nuts need rotating to align the threads to the direction of the foil bolts..as I had to do that with the 85 carbon mast


Yeah, that's a good point, worth having a look down through the holes on the foil to make sure you can see thread all the way round

GoncaloMS
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20 Jun 2021 11:47PM
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RuddeBos said..
I've fitted both the Starboard carbon masts 85/95 and aluminium 85 masts into jp 135's 2019, 135 2020, and jp120 with no problem at all.
are you sure that it's just the holes in the wrong position?
it could be that the barrel nuts need rotating to align the threads to the direction of the foil bolts..as I had to do that with the 85 carbon mast


My Starboard is 135 2020.
Yes, only the holes are in the wrong position, the mast fits perfectly in the box.
A frien told me that he had the same problem with the same brands and he did more or less what you suggest. I will probably try this as first option, before start drilling or whatever. I belive that the bolts will then be inclined and that i need a wedge washer to better distrubution of the stresses on the head of the bolts

GoncaloMS
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21 Jun 2021 7:00AM
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I tried to attach a starboard traditional fin (tuttle box) and it fits perfectly on the JP Hydrofoil 135 board (of course there is a gap inside the box but the fin is well fixed). So, I decided to overlap both the foil and the fin with the bolts and that's it, the bolts and the barrel nuts of the foil must be rotated.
Happens that the front bolt/nut can rotate and be completely tightened. Also the rear nut can rotate (as expected) but above the nut there is a steel plate with a round hole that drives the screw to the upright position preventing it to rotate (there is the same plate above the front nut but the driving hole is ovalized alowing some rotation of the bolt).
Now I can fit the foil's mast head in the board's box and tight the front bolt. For the rear bolt I need to ovalize about 3-5 mm the rear hole of the board to allow the bolt to get in in the vertical position and then hopefuly the problem will be solved
I have some photos that would help to understand, unfortunately to post photos is not allowed to new members.

Sandman1221
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22 Jun 2021 4:32AM
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I had a issue with my AFS W95 foil, deep Tuttle head, one of the barrel nuts was able to rotate and would get out of alignment with the screw and I could not engage screw to attach foil to board. Was told by local shop to push barrel nut out sideways a little and apply some surfboard wax to the exposed barrel nut outside surface and then push back in. But opted to put epoxy on outside of barrel nut and push back in, then fitted to board using silicone grease on screw and inside of box (to not epoxy screw to barrel nut) and let epoxy cure, that worked good and is still good after two years.

chris2surf
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14 Jul 2021 2:46PM
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Any feedback on how well the JP works with the freeride plus foil? I have the jp 120 which has the straps quite far back similar to the 135 and worried I won't be able to keep the nose down.
I have been using a starboard supercruiser with the JP 120 and JP 135 which works really well together. I now want something a little bit faster. I also had a similar issue fitting the foil but drilled out a few mm on the foil head to allow the screw to hit the barrel but at the correct angle.

Grantmac
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16 Jul 2021 2:10AM
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chris2surf said..
Any feedback on how well the JP works with the freeride plus foil? I have the jp 120 which has the straps quite far back similar to the 135 and worried I won't be able to keep the nose down.
I have been using a starboard supercruiser with the JP 120 and JP 135 which works really well together. I now want something a little bit faster. I also had a similar issue fitting the foil but drilled out a few mm on the foil head to allow the screw to hit the barrel but at the correct angle.


The original "non-plus" starboard fuselages will balance well with the rearward straps.
Something like the 2018 GTR.

chris2surf
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28 Jul 2021 4:06PM
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Quick update I have been using the starboard freeride plus with the JP 120 for a couple of sessions now. Very pleased with it and I feel it works well together so far the shim at -1.5 works best need to try the -2 to see how it works. My speed is edging up from the supercruiser.



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