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Frothing in 15 (video)

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Created by azymuth > 9 months ago, 4 Oct 2022
azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
4 Oct 2022 9:22AM
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Testing the Max Lens mod on my standard GoPro10 - it levels the horizon line in SuperView (the camera was actually pointing all over the place).
Included a few longer runs to show how 40 inch harness lines work for me - max speed upwind 18.4 knots.
Only a light 15 knot early season seabreeze but still superfun trying to carve up the little windswells

Simmer Enduro 5.9m, Phantasm 926



Blooper

BullroarerTook
299 posts
4 Oct 2022 9:25AM
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I've got that move down.

Sandman1221
2776 posts
4 Oct 2022 9:52AM
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thanks azymuth, enjoyed the video and music!

thedoor
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4 Oct 2022 10:37AM
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How long you been on adjustable harness lines? Worth it?

dantren
QLD, 304 posts
4 Oct 2022 2:12PM
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Enjoyed that, thanks.

coolmove
88 posts
4 Oct 2022 5:38PM
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I love it

Noah2
WA, 28 posts
4 Oct 2022 7:54PM
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Keep the foiling movies coming.I am really inspired by your skill and footage.Life is good.

Noah2
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4 Oct 2022 7:54PM
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Noah2 said..
Keep the foiling movies coming.I am really inspired by your skill and footage.Life is good.


WsurfAustin
651 posts
4 Oct 2022 8:48PM
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Railing unwind !. Love it. Thanks for the video !

azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
5 Oct 2022 5:14AM
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thedoor said..
How long you been on adjustable harness lines? Worth it?


A few months. I like varying the length upwind in normal wind to change my stance slightly to rest.
Over 25 knots I always have them around 40 to get distance to the rig which buys me reaction time

BullroarerTook
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6 Oct 2022 10:41AM
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thedoor said..
How long you been on adjustable harness lines? Worth it?


Got a pair you can borrow.

thedoor
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6 Oct 2022 10:45AM
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BullroarerTook said..

thedoor said..
How long you been on adjustable harness lines? Worth it?



Got a pair you can borrow.


sweet

thedoor
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6 Oct 2022 10:53AM
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azymuth said..

thedoor said..
How long you been on adjustable harness lines? Worth it?



A few months. I like varying the length upwind in normal wind to change my stance slightly to rest.
Over 25 knots I always have them around 40 to get distance to the rig which buys me reaction time


What brand and you like them?

BullroarerTook
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7 Oct 2022 7:56AM
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thedoor said..

azymuth said..


thedoor said..
How long you been on adjustable harness lines? Worth it?




A few months. I like varying the length upwind in normal wind to change my stance slightly to rest.
Over 25 knots I always have them around 40 to get distance to the rig which buys me reaction time



What brand and you like them?


Duotone with Velcro attachment so you don't have to take your boom apart. That's nice. In 30 years I always try adjustables and go back to fixed. As good or better than any I suppose.

azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
7 Oct 2022 8:15AM
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thedoor said.. What brand and you like them?


Patrik (who's now a local ) 28-42 inch Pro Vario
They blow sideways when they're super long which can make it tricky hooking in but still good.

I'm waiting for Simmer to bring out longer lines - loved the 36inch but now find them a bit short

Paducah
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7 Oct 2022 11:55PM
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azymuth said..
thedoor said.. What brand and you like them?


Patrik (who's now a local ) 28-42 inch Pro Vario
They blow sideways when they're super long which can make it tricky hooking in but still good.

I'm waiting for Simmer to bring out longer lines - loved the 36inch but now find them a bit short


Me on my 27s (I have really short arms)



and me with my short arms how I imagine azymuth on his 40s

CoreAS
923 posts
8 Oct 2022 10:13AM
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I'm like Paducah, I couldn't hardly reach the boom at 32" lines.28" is comfy for me

dimacced
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10 Oct 2022 4:43AM
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azymuth said..
Testing the Max Lens mod on my standard GoPro10 - it levels the horizon line in SuperView (the camera was actually pointing all over the place).
Included a few longer runs to show how 40 inch harness lines work for me - max speed upwind 18.4 knots.
Only a light 15 knot early season seabreeze but still superfun trying to carve up the little windswells

Simmer Enduro 5.9m, Phantasm 926


Blooper



5.9 in 15 knts of Wind? That Is quite a lot of sail with a 1000 ish foil, I am 73 kg and would be on a 4.7 probably on 5.7 with the 800 Wing were you mainly going upwind/ Deep downwind or there' s something I am missing....?

azymuth
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10 Oct 2022 7:53PM
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dimacced said..5.9 in 15 knts of Wind? That Is quite a lot of sail with a 1000 ish foil, I am 73 kg and would be on a 4.7 probably on 5.7 with the 800 Wing were you mainly going upwind/ Deep downwind or there' s something I am missing....?


The 926 is 1233cm2, no problems with a 5.9 up to 20 knots.
25 knot gusts need a fair bit of feathering upwind to survive and downwind I have to hold the clew in super-tight and go fast as possible riding the swells, to lessen the wind pressure in the sail.
Not ideal but it works if I get caught out

I mostly only go upwind and downwind.

dimacced
176 posts
10 Oct 2022 8:26PM
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How much do you Weight, if I may ask?

azymuth
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10 Oct 2022 10:11PM
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dimacced said..
How much do you Weight, if I may ask?


80 kgs

dimacced
176 posts
14 Oct 2022 8:06PM
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JJ, 5.9 Is the biggest sail you use on the wizard 114? If so, do you think Is unconfortable to go bigger because of width, volume or...?

azymuth
WA, 2153 posts
15 Oct 2022 9:53AM
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JJ, 5.9 Is the biggest sail you use on the wizard 114? If so, do you think Is unconfortable to go bigger because of width, volume or...?



I use a Simmer Enduro 6.5m if it's super light. Works fine.
I can uphaul it but 99% of the time manage to waterstart as long as I'm getting 10-12 knot gusts.

stehsegler
WA, 3542 posts
15 Oct 2022 11:15AM
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Going from 5.9 to 6.5 has diminishing returns in my opinion. It will get you through the lulls a bit better but it won't really get you going much earlier in marginal conditions. What you gain in sail size you will loose in drag. Different if you go from 5.9 to 8.5 to 9sqm. or say from 5.9 wave sail to 6.5 cambered foil sail.

dimacced
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15 Oct 2022 3:02PM
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As a matter of fact the lighter the wind the bigger need to be the increase in sail size to have effect, this simply because lift goes with the square of wind speed while is proportional with sail surface. with my 6.7 I start foiling in 10ish knots and I can go directly to 4.7 when it gets to 15 ish knots of wind, the more the wind increases the more the gap in sail size get narrower, this is reversed when doing the opposite, so you are right.
My question was aimed to understand what is handable sail size for the 114 in order to define the range for a board I am planning to build and the 6.7 is the bigger sail I would like to use with smaller wing (800 cm2) in sarch for higher speed in lighter condition, instead of going with 5.7 with the bigger foil (1000 cm2). My conclusion is that a board 70-72 cm wide and 125 ish liters should be enough to cover that end range, I am lighter than azymuth as well so...

WsurfAustin
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16 Oct 2022 10:41PM
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dimacced said..
As a matter of fact the lighter the wind the bigger need to be the increase in sail size to have effect, this simply because lift goes with the square of wind speed while is proportional with sail surface. with my 6.7 I start foiling in 10ish knots and I can go directly to 4.7 when it gets to 15 ish knots of wind, the more the wind increases the more the gap in sail size get narrower, this is reversed when doing the opposite, so you are right.
My question was aimed to understand what is handable sail size for the 114 in order to define the range for a board I am planning to build and the 6.7 is the bigger sail I would like to use with smaller wing (800 cm2) in sarch for higher speed in lighter condition, instead of going with 5.7 with the bigger foil (1000 cm2). My conclusion is that a board 70-72 cm wide and 125 ish liters should be enough to cover that end range, I am lighter than azymuth as well so...


FWIW,
61 Kg on a 114 wizard,730 phantasm. 5.2 is my biggest sail. Get up in 12-13ish knots. Smallest is 3.7 (needs to be 3.O ish though) for 25+knots. Could probably go to 6.0, but not interasted if the wind is that light.

dimacced
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17 Oct 2022 1:55AM
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Thank you for your feedback Wsurf Austin, I think weight plays a role too in handling sail size, as well as skills obviously. Skill wise I think I am behind many in this forum so cannot count too much on that :-) will see how it goes, designis getting to the end...now need to start building it!

Cheers



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