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Carving bumps upwind and downwind (video)

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Created by azymuth > 9 months ago, 23 Mar 2022
azymuth
WA, 2154 posts
23 Mar 2022 8:23AM
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Cheers to my nephew Thom for filming with his iPhone
SSW 20-25 knots
Simmer Tricera 4.5 and 4.7
JJ and Mr. Smooth

2keen
WA, 372 posts
23 Mar 2022 9:46AM
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Love the dolphin like foil out at 2:01

azymuth
WA, 2154 posts
23 Mar 2022 11:40AM
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2keen said..
Love the dolphin like foil out at 2:01


Channelling my inner Sandman

thedoor
2469 posts
24 Mar 2022 1:27AM
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So good, as always

PatK
321 posts
24 Mar 2022 6:02AM
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Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?

WsurfAustin
651 posts
24 Mar 2022 9:07AM
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Niiiccce! Sweet turns!

CAN17
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24 Mar 2022 10:03PM
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PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?


I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).

CoreAS
923 posts
25 Mar 2022 1:46AM
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its always so windy when the Freo doctor kicks in, full on power carving....so awesome

Paducah
2786 posts
25 Mar 2022 8:16PM
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Got in a nice 4.7 session yesterday and channeled some of this energy and good vibes into my riding. Our wind chop is smaller but still fun to make some curves happen. No matter how many times I do it, still surprising how much range a 4.7 has on a foil 10-25 kts.

Guru4
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25 Mar 2022 9:18PM
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CAN17 said..

PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?



I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).


I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.

thedoor
2469 posts
25 Mar 2022 9:51PM
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Guru4 said..

CAN17 said..


PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?




I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).



I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.


there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging

1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging

utcminusfour
750 posts
25 Mar 2022 10:37PM
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All I get these days is when are you going to try winging? At least they have stopped asking me when I am goint to try kites!

simonp65
97 posts
26 Mar 2022 12:09AM
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I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.



Having mostly moved over to winging I can tell you why! In the same conditions you have more options:

1) Ride the waves unpowered in a pure surfing style without a sail interfering with your view of the wave

2) Ride the waves in a powered up style (see Alex Aguera in
)

3) Get big floaty jumps on the way out!

I've wind foiled on decent waves but it really doesn't compare to 1)

azymuth
WA, 2154 posts
26 Mar 2022 5:09AM
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thedoor said..
there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging
1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging


^^ We have many high-level wingers locally but they don't ask us anymore

Why I'm all in with windfoiling;
Carving power using mast-foot pressure, fast s-turn downwinding.
Cranking "rail" turns and speed DTL on waves.
Upwind and downwind speed.
Quick easy waterstarting.
Leash-free.
Reasonable control in crashes by holding on to the boom which keeps the foil away.
Ability to grovel back when the wind drops.
Easily cover large distances to explore or sail back from downwinders.
Longevity of wavesails.

Windfoiling is becoming an outlier so even more cool

WsurfAustin
651 posts
26 Mar 2022 9:11AM
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We've got a group of wingers here and a few kite foilers. We have many foiling days year round, but the conditions on any given day can be highly variable. They spend a lot of time in the water in the lulls. They stay pretty close to the launch area for that reason. Windfoiling with 114 board, I can always get home and stay out of the cold water. I like to travel far downwind/upwind. I have been down wind when the wind died. Slogging for a half hour is not fun, but at least I can get back.

I envy you guys with consistent winds and ocean swell.

marc5
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26 Mar 2022 7:38PM
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azymuth said..

thedoor said..
there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging
1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging



^^ We have many high-level wingers locally but they don't ask us anymore

Why I'm all in with windfoiling;
Carving power using mast-foot pressure, fast s-turn downwinding.
Cranking "rail" turns and speed DTL on waves.
Upwind and downwind speed.
Quick easy waterstarting.
Leash-free.
Reasonable control in crashes by holding on to the boom which keeps the foil away.
Ability to grovel back when the wind drops.
Easily cover large distances to explore or sail back from downwinders.
Longevity of wavesails.

Windfoiling is becoming an outlier so even more cool


Thanks for another great video. Love windfoiling but still working on jibes. Could you expand on your comment "Carving power using mast-foot pressure.....". This might help me.

Thank you.

CoreAS
923 posts
27 Mar 2022 1:53AM
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thedoor said..

Guru4 said..


CAN17 said..



PatK said..
Very nice! Did Simon replace his SS Infinity with a SABFoil? Could you give more infos about it?





I think Simon is riding the sabfoil BP 799 in the video.

Great video JJ you guys make the Winger look like he's standing still
We are worlds away but do have similar conditions (only colder here).




I feel sorry for the winger. Makes me wonder why so many drop the sail for the wing. I doubt you'll see these 2 guns on a wing.



there are two main reasons for skilled windfoilers to try winging

1) to realize how easy wing foiling is
2) So people stop asking you if/when you will try winging




Even when I wind foil I get asked why don't I wing?.. I'm like well I do both, but this particular day and given this wind direction wind foiling is far better, then I get a confused look?

@simonp65 I think it depends on the day (wind and swell direction), sometimes I get more quality swells rides on a wind foil than wing.

If the wind switches to cross onshore winging kinda sucks and you spend an enormous amount of energy trying to get out of wind shadows and because you're generally foiling at slower speeds you don't always have enough power to get over the swell line and end up in no mans land within the given set.

TroyMcClure
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27 Mar 2022 6:40AM
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utcminusfour said..

All I get these days is when are you going to try winging? At least they have stopped asking me when I am goint to try kites!


Ha! Yeah, that's all I get too!



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