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Art999 or HPS1050?

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Created by excav8ter > 9 months ago, 17 Sep 2023
excav8ter
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17 Sep 2023 11:40PM
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I have chance to by one or the other of the above listed foils, or I can buy both. Currently riding the BSC 970, 1060 and 1120. Leaning towards the 1050 at this point. Any suggestions on which one and why?

lao shi
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18 Sep 2023 12:53PM
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More details needed. Weight, type of sailing, wind speed, board. I have a 1050 which is good for light wind (12 knts/ 5.3, 80kg, Ocean) but hard for me to gybe on a narrow tail 97L Tabou pocket air board. I prefer the 880.
1050 has better bottom end and light wind glide but the wide span shows up any errors in foot placement.


excav8ter
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18 Sep 2023 7:44PM
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lao shi said..
More details needed. Weight, type of sailing, wind speed, board. I have a 1050 which is good for light wind (12 knts/ 5.3, 80kg, Ocean) but hard for me to gybe on a narrow tail 97L Tabou pocket air board. I prefer the 880.
1050 has better bottom end and light wind glide but the wide span shows up any errors in foot placement.



6'4" tall, 230lbs (104kg)
I ride strapless. Just cruising around, trying to ride waves and swells when conditions are right. Sometimes hard down to go hard upwind. Sometimes I just go back and forth. Mainly using Naish Lift sails currently. The older ones from 2019. I also have a Duotone 4.8 Super Session and a 5.8 F-Pace as well as Sailworks Flyers from 6.0 to 8.2.
Board is custom made Casey Treichler and Reef Warrior. 6'4"x 31" and 144L. The HPS or Art would not get used a lot at this point, and maybe never will. I was mainly considering one of them for the rare days when I can get on flat-ish water and go a bit faster. I tried the HPS1050 once, but it was a really variable wind. I rode it for a bit and went back to my BSC1060 because it seemed to work better that day.

lao shi
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19 Sep 2023 11:07AM
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You will find that the 1050 and 999 need faster speeds to come up on foil in that order and you need to bear away more than your 1060 but will be faster in that order. The glide will be better.
HPS will handle more water movement (swell /chop) better than 999.
So more speed and glide but a bit more technical 999. Otherwise 1050.
If you are riding strapless and not pushing speed you may not notice too much difference to your 1060 other than the glide off the wind with less sail pressure.

excav8ter
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20 Sep 2023 8:40AM
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lao shi said..
You will find that the 1050 and 999 need faster speeds to come up on foil in that order and you need to bear away more than your 1060 but will be faster in that order. The glide will be better.
HPS will handle more water movement (swell /chop) better than 999.
So more speed and glide but a bit more technical 999. Otherwise 1050.
If you are riding strapless and not pushing speed you may not notice too much difference to your 1060 other than the glide off the wind with less sail pressure.


So maybe my new BSC970 might be a bit of a step in the right direction? Perhaps I skip the 1050 and the 999 and get a BSC890 for something a bit smaller and faster when I feel ready?

lao shi
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20 Sep 2023 12:15PM
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excav8ter said..

lao shi said..
You will find that the 1050 and 999 need faster speeds to come up on foil in that order and you need to bear away more than your 1060 but will be faster in that order. The glide will be better.
HPS will handle more water movement (swell /chop) better than 999.
So more speed and glide but a bit more technical 999. Otherwise 1050.
If you are riding strapless and not pushing speed you may not notice too much difference to your 1060 other than the glide off the wind with less sail pressure.



So maybe my new BSC970 might be a bit of a step in the right direction? Perhaps I skip the 1050 and the 999 and get a BSC890 for something a bit smaller and faster when I feel ready?


890 needs the black fuselage which both the 1050 and 999 need I am guessing you are currently using the red?

excav8ter
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21 Sep 2023 3:32AM
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lao shi said..

excav8ter said..


lao shi said..
You will find that the 1050 and 999 need faster speeds to come up on foil in that order and you need to bear away more than your 1060 but will be faster in that order. The glide will be better.
HPS will handle more water movement (swell /chop) better than 999.
So more speed and glide but a bit more technical 999. Otherwise 1050.
If you are riding strapless and not pushing speed you may not notice too much difference to your 1060 other than the glide off the wind with less sail pressure.




So maybe my new BSC970 might be a bit of a step in the right direction? Perhaps I skip the 1050 and the 999 and get a BSC890 for something a bit smaller and faster when I feel ready?



890 needs the black fuselage which both the 1050 and 999 need I am guessing you are currently using the red?


I bought a black windsurf fuse just in case.



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