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2024 foilstyle boards dropping

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Created by Roy > 9 months ago, 14 Aug 2023
Roy
VIC, 148 posts
14 Aug 2023 9:42PM
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Starboards new Ignite Air.

PatK
321 posts
14 Aug 2023 11:11PM
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Rails yeah

CoreAS
923 posts
16 Aug 2023 4:29AM
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The board dims are very interesting @ 187 x 70cm, with those rails and diamond tail...It just needs to be a bit thicker around 115 liters or so and that would literally tick all my boxes.

Not sure how many people in the real world can freestyle wind foil, but I would love to give one a try if I ever bumped into one.

thedoor
2469 posts
16 Aug 2023 4:33AM
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I have been seeing lots more Foilstyle on IG recently, hoping its a sign of windfoilings bounce back

Sick looking board

aeroegnr
1731 posts
16 Aug 2023 5:00AM
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The FoilX 145 is 193x71, so not too far off in overall dimensions, but doesn't have the center strap. Makes me wonder how much different the FoilX in the smaller size with the center strap would be to the Ignite Air. The tail is definitely quite a bit different.

Paducah
2784 posts
16 Aug 2023 5:32AM
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thedoor said..
I have been seeing lots more Foilstyle on IG recently, hoping its a sign of windfoilings bounce back

Sick looking board


Was reading a FB post by a winging friend about how in his very wing friendly US locale, interest in winging has hit a wall. The early adapters have arrived, the kiters/windsurfers have dabbled and then the same obstacles the other sports have have kicked in: the price of gear, the learning curve, competing activities, etc.

Windfoiling, unlike wingfoiling, wasn't born in the waves. It evolved in either competition (e.g. IQFoil) or in pedestrian and not so photogenic locations such as my back yard where it provides significantly more time on the water. I think that other than notable exceptions such as Balz and Horue in the early days, few have spent the time pushing the foilstyle envelope and publicizing their efforts.

While wing still appeals to me, I applaud the new gear and share your hopes.

Mark _australia
WA, 23435 posts
16 Aug 2023 5:35PM
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I would not say 187cm is 'compact' for 105L
Big vee makes a less than perfect touchdown worse as it tracks straight (opposite of what they say...)

Nice outline idea though.

CoreAS
923 posts
16 Aug 2023 9:17PM
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Mark _australia said..
I would not say 187cm is 'compact' for 105L
Big vee makes a less than perfect touchdown worse as it tracks straight (opposite of what they say...)

Nice outline idea though.



As soon as I saw that Starbard shape I thought of your and Simons board design, you guys are on the money and way ahead of the curve for sure.

Do you ship to the US? (it would cost an arm and a leg, I'm sure).

dimacced
176 posts
26 Aug 2023 6:52PM
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Mark _australia said..
I would not say 187cm is 'compact' for 105L
Big vee makes a less than perfect touchdown worse as it tracks straight (opposite of what they say...)

Nice outline idea though.





Hello Mark. I noticed most of the freestyle foil boards these days have a 'V' shape on the back reducing width progressively going to the stern. The board I made myself instead is not conceived for freestyle, rather freeriding in mind, and has a very slight width reduction vs the maximum width. I am not a pro so my ability to feel board behaviour may not be top level, though max volume on the back is helping most of the time, on the foil to go upwind with bigger sails, to get on the foil and to slog when and if the wind drops. The only drawback I see is that to get on the foil the board is not progressive but needs a sort of 'pop' to get airborn. What are instead the benefit that you get taking out the volume and the width from ahead of the back strap to the veru stern of the board? On the Starboard board they claim that could be used as a 'fast freeride' board as well, I personally doubt that given the very colse space between front straps and UJ, I need almost 120 cm from the stern, with straps 5 cm from stern and foil base 7 cm from stern to get balanced at speed, the only way to change this and still stay balanced is to move back UJ and move forward straps to compensate but this is not a 'fast freeride' setup, closest to the one you have on your board, am I understanding it right?

Thank you for any insight
Edoardo





Mark _australia
WA, 23435 posts
27 Aug 2023 7:23PM
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Sorry man ... the vee i refer to is the bottom shape ... (like vee to assist with control in chop and turn over onto the rail when gybing on a fin board )

They claim large vee on the Ignite and i disagree that it is as good thing on foil boards. It can catch badly and track straight on bad touchdowns and isnt needed for smashing through chop as much... there is a balance of course as flat isn't ideal
Its so new im guided by the better riders though and its changing all the time

Roy
VIC, 148 posts
29 Aug 2023 9:15PM
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Balz going nuts in Pozo.......on a new Foilstyle board from Severne? (or just a new colourway)?

John340
QLD, 3363 posts
30 Aug 2023 12:52PM
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Looks like a Predator 95

6u1d0
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30 Aug 2023 3:33PM
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Mark _australia said..
Sorry man ... the vee i refer to is the bottom shape ... (like vee to assist with control in chop and turn over onto the rail when gybing on a fin board )

They claim large vee on the Ignite and i disagree that it is as good thing on foil boards. It can catch badly and track straight on bad touchdowns and isnt needed for smashing through chop as much... there is a balance of course as flat isn't ideal
Its so new im guided by the better riders though and its changing all the time


That can be discussed : when I designed my board 3 years ago, I went for reduced width to reduce slugging drag, short (1.7m) for better flight feeling, and significant Vee concave and bevels on the nose for touch down : I had noticed that bad touch down occured mostly with some roll angle, the hull sticking to the water with massive drag. So a significant Vee would get either half of the hull to be closer to a flat touch down (which isn't an issue, whatever hull shape), that could enable a bounce back on the foil.
So far, I have the feeling that this work out as I expected.
But overall, I have always had the feeling that main brand just recycle 2 years old ideas from amateurs, just always keeping on the safe side of the design (length not so compact, keep width, Just slight Vee...)
Radical design isn't good marketing.

dimacced
176 posts
17 Sep 2023 7:28PM
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CoreAS said..
The board dims are very interesting @ 187 x 70cm, with those rails and diamond tail...It just needs to be a bit thicker around 115 liters or so and that would literally tick all my boxes.

Not sure how many people in the real world can freestyle wind foil, but I would love to give one a try if I ever bumped into one.


I am looking to build one..just a matter of curiosity; what is about the diamond tail that appelas to you, what do you gain?



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