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Created by Jay25 > 9 months ago, 3 Nov 2014
Jay25
WA, 9 posts
3 Nov 2014 8:29PM
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hey everyone

I rode a vanguard FST yesterday and was instantly hooked on it. I had a look on firewires website and found that they do grom sizes cheap and i am now considering buying one. Has anyone rode both the constructions offered (FST and LFT)? which construction is stronger and more durable? and any thoughts on the board and the constructions would be great?

Cheers

AndreC
WA, 512 posts
4 Nov 2014 3:34PM
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Jay25 said..
hey everyone

I rode a vanguard FST yesterday and was instantly hooked on it. I had a look on firewires website and found that they do grom sizes cheap and i am now considering buying one. Has anyone rode both the constructions offered (FST and LFT)? which construction is stronger and more durable? and any thoughts on the board and the constructions would be great?

Cheers


I kite and surf on FST def the stronger of the 2…I haven't snapped any

Razzonater
2224 posts
4 Nov 2014 6:47PM
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I have the old construction 510 and 6





Mentawai last week on the 6 foot board. They are strong

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
4 Nov 2014 10:16PM
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AndreC said..

Jay25 said..
hey everyone

I rode a vanguard FST yesterday and was instantly hooked on it. I had a look on firewires website and found that they do grom sizes cheap and i am now considering buying one. Has anyone rode both the constructions offered (FST and LFT)? which construction is stronger and more durable? and any thoughts on the board and the constructions would be great?

Cheers



I kite and surf on FST def the stronger of the 2…I haven't snapped any


I am yet to ride or own an LFT but am a big fan of the FST. Its treated me well over the years.

IFocus
WA, 585 posts
5 Nov 2014 5:17PM
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Ted the Kiwi said..

AndreC said..


Jay25 said..
hey everyone

I rode a vanguard FST yesterday and was instantly hooked on it. I had a look on firewires website and found that they do grom sizes cheap and i am now considering buying one. Has anyone rode both the constructions offered (FST and LFT)? which construction is stronger and more durable? and any thoughts on the board and the constructions would be great?

Cheers




I kite and surf on FST def the stronger of the 2…I haven't snapped any



I am yet to ride or own an LFT but am a big fan of the FST. Its treated me well over the years.


Same Same FST has been strong as

Jah0073
WA, 17 posts
6 Nov 2014 1:32PM
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I have firewire boards in all constructions.

Rapid fire is the lightest and seems most prone to damage.

LFT is also quite light, quite responsive, seems more durable than rapid fire time will tell as the board is quite new.

FST super strong, really responsive but the heaviest of the three, but still very light.

I think they all surf quite well and like each of them. Guess it comes down to your budget and how long you want the board to last. I have had FST boards last 6 years in quite good shape until they finally snap.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
6 Nov 2014 3:10PM
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Jay25 said..
hey everyone

I rode a vanguard FST yesterday and was instantly hooked on it. I had a look on firewires website and found that they do grom sizes cheap and i am now considering buying one. Has anyone rode both the constructions offered (FST and LFT)? which construction is stronger and more durable? and any thoughts on the board and the constructions would be great?

Cheers


The other option is to check out the Star Surf demo day this Sat and Sun. Im not sure but you'd guess they would have the different constructions on demo also..

Razzonater
2224 posts
7 Nov 2014 9:39AM
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6foot rapidfire 39.5 litres

IFocus
WA, 585 posts
22 Nov 2014 11:48AM
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6foot rapidfire 39.5 litres





Razz how do you go duck diving your board ?


Thinking of buying the same or a Vader I currently surf around the 40 litre mark

Razzonater
2224 posts
22 Nov 2014 12:59PM
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Duck divings not too bad I use me foot on the tail pad and hands on the rails ( I'm a bit of a weirdo like that) but you can get deep. With this board and length it's good, even though the volume is high it may be cause its short it's not too bad. I too have seen this vader they speak of. I want to have a go on one. The vanguard is good in some barrels but I reckon the tail on the vader would be better.

Ricardo1709
NSW, 1302 posts
22 Nov 2014 4:17PM
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6foot rapidfire 39.5 litres


Thats a lot of volume packed in to a smallish board what are the other dims of it??

Razzonater
2224 posts
22 Nov 2014 2:55PM
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Hopefully the pic uploads all the dimensions, ridden at maximum size. Pic taken by John barton ( he's a good photog gotta give him credit)

Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1404 posts
22 Nov 2014 5:11PM
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Some nice carves there razz gotta love that!
I reckon the new vader model looks the goods... Anyone surfed one??

IFocus
WA, 585 posts
22 Nov 2014 6:39PM
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I was wondering how the nose pushs down given the width


Razz how much do you weigh?


Did you land the drop on the last wave.........

Razzonater
2224 posts
22 Nov 2014 9:06PM
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Hey focus,
Yeah the nose can be a bit of a pain to duck dive but the board duck dives the same as maybe a standard 66,
I'm 100 kg but when I got it was bout 105 110.
Yeah I made the drop I got the whole sequence for proof cause the lads never believe me aye
Can someone buy the vader I want a write up on it before I buy one. Anyone surely someone's buying a board soon... I know star would get one in to buy but I'd like to see one in real life before ordering one sight unseen

Grantmiller1978
NSW, 20 posts
27 Nov 2014 10:15PM
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I'd love to hear a review of the fader too. Interested to hear how it goes before buying. I have ridden the old construction and enjoyed but prefer pu for the flex

Kami
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6 Dec 2014 5:03AM
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Razzonater said..
Duck divings not too bad I use me foot on the tail pad and hands on the rails ( I'm a bit of a weirdo like that) but you can get deep. With this board and length it's good, even though the volume is high it may be cause its short it's not too bad. I too have seen this vader they speak of. I want to have a go on one. The vanguard is good in some barrels but I reckon the tail on the vader would be better.


Please what you mean about the tail ? Is it too wide i presume...go deeper cause i'm really into it, your reply will be an excellent feed back for my own research as shaper of my son' board and i'm surfing myself tomo vanguard style shortSUP, involving it just for fun.



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